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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:48:26 AM EDT
[#1]
Just another AR. Nothing that special. The "Tactical" model comes with a bunch of Troy stuff on it.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:37:22 AM EDT
[#2]
They look like any other AR15 except S&W is printed on just about every part. Hell they may have even put S&W on the roll pins
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:56:05 AM EDT
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Everyone that I've heard from said, nothing really special, typical AR with typical AR parts branded with the S&W logo, the only saving grace is that the finish is supposed to be very nice.
*shrug* I still want one. lol |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 7:59:55 AM EDT
[#4]
The S&W models are priced mainstream. This has been proven time and time again in previous discussions.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 2:12:24 PM EDT
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The S&W AR is made using CMT upper/lower so the quality should be very good. The FF rail comes from TROY. For the price, it seemed like a nice rifle.
At least this time it's no SIGMA. They are using quality parts and just putting their label on it. |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 7:26:28 PM EDT
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The replies I got from S&W didn't give up shit, they kept sending me back to the press release. I sent them back a letter saying if you want your AR-15 would be an upper end rifle (they start for a basic model at $1200 with no extras and an A3 was $1300). I said they should add a top of the line single stage trigger, PRI gasbuster, A good sturdy stock that doesn't wiggle around and has a better check weld, A better bolt and carrier group like the PRI or KAC. A3's should have a BUIS, A decent quality pistol grip like a g27. I know everybody else has their own opinion on what should be changed But what I have mentioned above would make it a $1300 rifle. You could get a Bushy with their stats for $800 and a DPMS for less.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 7:48:38 PM EDT
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Breaking it down into pictures for the visual people, look at the prices. The Bushmaster is using YHM parts and is priced higher. While there are differences between them, Troy is considered by most of us to be a upper end unit.
S&W basic M4 (A3) carbine MSRP- $1200  Bushmaster basic M4 (A3) carbine MSRP- $ 1230  S&W M4 loaded using Troy components MSRP- $1700  Bushmaster loaded using YHM components MSRP- $1745 
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Posted: 3/11/2006 8:24:30 PM EDT
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The M&P 15 has a milspec size reciever extension which is nice. No other mainstream AR (except Colt) gives you that.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 8:28:50 PM EDT
[#9]
uh that bushy is an A2 |
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Posted: 3/11/2006 8:32:43 PM EDT
[#10]
Correct, the picture off the Bushmaster website only shows an A2, which is why I wrote A3, to help avoid any confusion and show the same items were being compared. The bottom Bushie also shows an AWB complaint weapon, even though it is available in both forms.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 8:34:24 PM EDT
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I just sold one today and think they are very nice rifles. As for price, we sell the standard M4 model for $940. I think this is a very competitive price . I wouldn't hesitate to add one to my collection.
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Posted: 3/11/2006 8:39:31 PM EDT
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I know you meant compliant, but complaint is better. I also prefer the S&W, from what I see here, to the Bushy except I like the fluted barrel on the Bushy Modular carbine.TS 
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Posted: 3/11/2006 8:47:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Complaint, compliant..... 
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Posted: 3/11/2006 8:47:28 PM EDT
[#14]
they are quite nice and within $100 of everyone else
I think i may need to pick one up |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 4:43:06 AM EDT
[#15]
I would love to have the S&W T or the Troy CQB-SPC at the $1300- $1400 range. The Troy has a Vltor Club foot and a MSRP of $1700. It looks pretty much like the same weapon to me. Not to Hijack but does anyone know anything about the Troy? Sorry could not post a link.
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Posted: 3/12/2006 6:42:37 AM EDT
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The S&W T model with the Tro sights, rail and low gas block is a lot better than the YHM products on the Bushmaster upgraded rifle. That was a good call Stick.
Troy makes among the nicest upgrades, good call on S&W's part. |
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Posted: 3/12/2006 7:00:55 AM EDT
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Local guy bought the M4 mdl with all the Troy goodies for $1260+tax out the door. IMHO, if those are the features that you desire, I feel it is a fair price for an "right out of the box rifle".
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Posted: 3/12/2006 8:11:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2006 8:58:55 AM EDT
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Yup, you're right... |
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