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Posted: 6/6/2003 9:27:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/6/2003 9:28:34 AM EDT by jleable]
I just got my extended length swan sleeve with my aimpoint mounted on it. I would like to see what every one else has for a set up on their swan sleeve or any flat top with out an SIR or RIS system.

Here's one of mine from the side and front view



Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:06:01 AM EDT
[img]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/guns/M4a.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/guns/SPR-1.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:18:15 AM EDT
[img]http://www.z06vette.com/gallery/data/500/135m4may.jpg[/img] No sleeve, but a KAC free-float + compact ACOG... AND a happy switch!! -TF
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:22:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/6/2003 10:29:34 AM EDT by 7IDL]
I've got a M68 and a 22M68 mounted on a #38STD... [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=13350[/img] [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=13351[/img]
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:33:19 AM EDT
nice guns guys, keep the pics commin
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:47:59 AM EDT
damn, i got to get a camera so i can play.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 10:53:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/6/2003 10:56:38 AM EDT by Slacker]
The first two are of my ARMS#38 S-EX The last one is my #38 MOD on a KAC RIS. After seeing SMGLee's #38 Mod I just had to have one. [img]http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/Blackdiamond1.JPG[/img] [img]http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/Blackdiamond2.JPG[/img] [img]http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/evilriflebest.JPG[/img] [img]http://personalpages.tds.net/~eflanagin/evilrifleedjectionside.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 11:08:43 AM EDT
Slacker - The bottom rig, interesting ... 9mm? The front sight/gas block - haven't seen that version before (might be the picture angle), can you give specifics? Thx! MtW
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 11:25:43 AM EDT
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=13354[/img]
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 11:43:55 AM EDT
[img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=9313[/img] My old 38EX Mod L set up.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 12:35:19 PM EDT
Standard length swan sleeve with TA31 [img]http://home.earthlink.net/~martinmayhem/images/Dsc00417b.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 1:04:42 PM EDT
These rifles have changed since these pics were taken, but you get the general idea. [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p93777e74a072f3ea4f640b7b49a2b756/fc474046.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p80579e8f498ce5b3813104d7dfdf86dd/fc4a62d3.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 1:04:54 PM EDT
Aimpoint Comp ML2 mounted on ARMS 22M68 Mount atop a #38 STD Swan Sleeve with BUIS [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/pbc6431df54a97075de1c8209620184db/fc0cf409.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/pfdf0355615420e8888ee3a0a9fb931b6/fc0cf407.jpg[/img] And with the BUIS flipped up [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/pf9a1b8e07120953944c3b697c4a6d771/fc0cf405.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 1:10:42 PM EDT
Can you co-witness w/the front sight???
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 1:39:12 PM EDT
Someone explain why one wouldn't just buy the BUIS and AImpoint mount. Why put a rail ontop of a rail???
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 3:02:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MP906: Someone explain why one wouldn't just buy the BUIS and AImpoint mount. Why put a rail ontop of a rail???
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Thats why I switched. Less weight. [img]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=12668[/img]
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 3:51:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MartytW: Slacker - The bottom rig, interesting ... 9mm? The front sight/gas block - haven't seen that version before (might be the picture angle), can you give specifics? Thx! MtW
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Hey Marty, Its a Oly 45ACP w/11.5" bbl. The front sight is a GG&G flip up type, with the picatinny rail option. I put it in the up postion for the photo op. No gas block, the pistol caliber carbines are blow backs. No gas tube etc. Hope this answers your questions, IM me if you want all the details.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 3:59:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MP906: Someone explain why one wouldn't just buy the BUIS and AImpoint mount. Why put a rail ontop of a rail???
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Because the upper receiver rail wasn't long enough to mount a scope far enough forward to be useable (eye relief). Some folks like their red dots forward of the receiver (scout style) A red dot mounted forward of the receiver is VERY fast to aquire a target with. I wanted to use a scout scope on my AR and the only way to build a very secure surface was with a ARMS #38 MOD (which I already had) or a FF RAS, which I didn't have. I went with the ARMS MOD/RIS combo and haven't looked back.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 7:44:41 PM EDT
Can you use one of the extended length swan sleeves with M4 handguards, or do the hardguards get in the way?
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 7:49:43 PM EDT
Slacker - Thanks, hadn't installed any of the GG&G stuff, that's why it wasn't familiar. Been using either the DPMS or BM 4-rail GB. In some cases, we use a custom block in Dissipator fashion and add a second front GB/FS strictly for mounting BUIS. Gonna try and post a pic, as it also sports a 36S-EX in keeping with the topic at hand. [url]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=13375[/url] Marty
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 7:57:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Slacker:
Originally Posted By MP906: Someone explain why one wouldn't just buy the BUIS and AImpoint mount. Why put a rail ontop of a rail???
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Because the upper receiver rail wasn't long enough to mount a scope far enough forward to be useable (eye relief). Some folks like their red dots forward of the receiver (scout style) A red dot mounted forward of the receiver is VERY fast to aquire a target with. I wanted to use a scout scope on my AR and the only way to build a very secure surface was with a ARMS #38 MOD (which I already had) or a FF RAS, which I didn't have. I went with the ARMS MOD/RIS combo and haven't looked back.
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Okay, I can see in your case. But, for instance, dsr611's rifle, what's the point? Not trying to knock someone's rig, I'm a newbie with AR gizmos.
Link Posted: 6/6/2003 8:21:17 PM EDT
#38 series incorporates the rear sight, brings the mount up to a level where the optics will co-witness with iron's w/o additional spacers. they come in different lengths, personal prefrence as to where you'd like your optiks mounted. right or wrong, thats the way I see it. [:)]
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 1:00:32 PM EDT
Here is a picture of my Colt M4 with ARMS #38 S-Ex attached. [img]http://home.insightbb.com/~karlknapp2/Colt02.jpg[/img]
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