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Posted: 1/9/2005 10:29:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 10:32:16 AM EDT by AROKIE]
I need a good inexpensive ammo for everyday shooting, i have narrowed my choices down to wolf or georgia arm reman ammo.

what do you guys think

this ammo will be used in a bush 16" ar chrome lined, possibly other ar's too.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:36:09 AM EDT
I too have a Bushmaster 16" and nearly shoot Wolf exclusively. I have yet to have an issue. Plus its ~$110 for 1000 rounds.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:39:04 AM EDT
Brown Bear. I've had too many duds with Wolf.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:43:02 AM EDT
Home rolled.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:59:06 AM EDT
UMC value packed 45 grain hollow points.

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 11:24:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 11:24:44 AM EDT by Duke_of_Lawnchair]
I'll be switching to Georgia Arms' "Canned Heat" and Wolf for the time being.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 11:36:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bushwacker85:
I too have a Bushmaster 16" and nearly shoot Wolf exclusively. I have yet to have an issue...


Bushy VMatch carbine (16", chrome-lined)
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 11:39:19 AM EDT
I reload. I can reload for just under $70/1000. And no, I don't count my time because I enjoy doing it.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 11:46:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 11:47:17 AM EDT
I know I have not contributed to the shortage like most of you guys have. Heres proof!

My camera sucks
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 12:06:43 PM EDT
I've been trying the zinc plated 62 grain silver bear hollow points. They seem to work well for me.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 12:44:34 PM EDT
Winchester white box here.

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 12:59:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 1:19:52 PM EDT
Handrolled varietys for me now.

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 1:24:01 PM EDT
I came up with a duplicate handload for XM193, which I practice with. No sense in using up the real thing just punching paper.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 3:19:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2005 3:20:03 PM EDT by blackeye]
In a true arfcom response: GET BOTH!!!!

Come on guys............somebody had to say it.

I have bought the Georgia Arms canned heat several times at gun shows. Its clean, reliable and accurate. I am also a puppy dog shooter (Wolf) and a WWB fanatic.

My Lake City and Q3131A are going into hiding for awhile.

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 3:29:22 PM EDT
Theres a shortage??? Guess I will have to hang on to mine for a while
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 5:27:35 PM EDT
+1 for reloading. I have also been hoarding IMI M193 and Q3131A.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 5:31:09 PM EDT
Most likely WWB and PMP. I am gonna start reloading too.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 6:06:48 PM EDT
so the canned heat isnt worth it?? not trusted??
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 6:13:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 7:03:41 PM EDT
Guess I better buy more.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:10:58 PM EDT
I'm not saying what I use for practice ammo, because it hasn't been mentioned yet, and I don't want all you clowns causing supply issues!

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:12:09 PM EDT

I tried Wolf 55gr FMJ today in three different ARs with 1:7" twist barrels. In two of them it made 4" groups at 50 yards with 8" flyers in all directions. In the third, an Hbar, it was much better, with one 3" group, followed by 5" flyers. Then the groups opened up...

I tried targets at 100 yards but didn't measure because I was crying too hard. :(

I mostly shoot Barnaul in my AKs and get better groups than this.

I didn't get any malfunctions, but I need better accuracy for the type of shooting I like to do.

Link Posted: 1/9/2005 9:15:25 PM EDT
Wolf and similar had worked for me, but I still got a decent amout of the other kinds, I like to packrat ammo.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 12:47:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Black Hills.

same here.

i get the reman stuff at the same price as ammoman's xm price now
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 12:50:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By eklikwhoa:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Black Hills.

same here.

i get the reman stuff at the same price as ammoman's xm price now

Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:27:22 AM EDT
at the local range i frequent.

it's about $220-$230 a case .

blue box reman 55gr
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 9:52:46 AM EDT
PMC has worked great for me, Fed American Eagle too and UMC.

Wolf hasn't.

Link Posted: 1/10/2005 11:32:51 AM EDT
This really sucks for me. I had been using XM193 for both my plinking, practice, and defensive ammo. I know it's not the best for defensive use, but it sure isn't bad. I like how hot XM193 is. Well, I'm running pretty low on XM193 with about 700 rounds.

I got a case of Wolff for Christmas, so as of now I'm using that to plink with and I'm trying to save my XM193, but I'm really hating the Wolff. The Wolff shoots very softly (it doesn't eject very far), and it also shoots pretty dirty.

What would you guys recommend as the best all-around use .223 if XM193 is no longer available.

I'm thinking either Georgia Arm's Canned Heat or Black Hills Remanufactured.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 2:03:55 PM EDT
I am thinking you will all have to sell them ARs for about $400 each as nobody will want them soon when they cant find xm193 or Q3131,Hahahahahahahahahahahaha damn you guys think the only thing that works in these rifles is what the military shoots?You gotta be kidding,What wont UMC,FAE,BH,S&B,PMC,Winchester white box(40rnd $7.48@wal-mart)punch paper or people in your minds when the SHTF takes place against all them ragheads,zipperheads,etc.etc.etc.?

Geez this same old song and dance has taken place since WW1,Guys just wait and in another 10-15 years the Gulf War will be over and the military will have a 6.8 caliber rifle and then you can bitch as they dont make it then either,Just commercial ammo
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