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Posted: 9/27/2004 11:40:28 AM EST
Just ordered the LE 6920HB from them to go with my LE 6920. I got it just before they raised the price to $1595. However, they have Colt LE6920s in stock for $1295.

Good people to deal with though. Does this model come with any other markings to distinguish it from its lighter brother?
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 11:52:14 AM EST
Just got my LE6920 and am very happy with it. Don't know about the HBAR. They were great to deal with.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 11:55:31 AM EST
I ordered an LE6920 from them as well. It should be on its way to me tomorrow.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:07:29 PM EST
I just ordered 2 LE6920's from tina she is great to deal with never had any problems with all the different stuff I have ordered.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 1:37:23 PM EST
WOW, thats about $400 bucks mroe than they should be.. I would sell them for around $900 If I could get any.. Well I guess supply and demand dictates price.. But the distributers don't charge more...
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 1:43:51 PM EST
I would buy them for around $900 If you could get any.....
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 1:50:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2004 1:50:23 PM EST by knightsar]

Originally Posted By estoner1:
I would buy them for around $900 If you could get any.....




We all would.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:00:27 PM EST
S.A.W. (Ken and Tina) and Gundealer3...great people to do business with.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:10:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2004 2:13:15 PM EST by Ranger_Edge]
R Guns in Carpentersville,IL. has them for around $980 + Tax
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:34:34 PM EST

"R Guns in Carpentersville,IL. has them for around $980 + Tax "

It says "LE / Dealer Only"
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:57:19 PM EST
$1295 is too high.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 3:00:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By alaman:
$1295 is too high.



Ya it is, if i can come up with the money i can get one for 900 here. Id never pay 1300 for one. thats insane.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 3:23:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By alaman:
$1295 is too high.



It most cetainly is. Does anybody have a guess when
the prices will return to the $1k range?
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:50:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By tfisch67:
S.A.W. (Ken and Tina) and Gundealer3...great people to do business with.




I agree,

SAW is charging the FET tax, they will give LEO's a price without the FET tax, probably Colts idea

I just bought a couple of recievers with internals for 350.00 ea. a 6721 and a 6520

250.00 stripped + 100.00 for the .170 pin internals installed
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:53:58 PM EST
I thought that when the ban expired we would be able to pick these up at normal prices, sounds like price gouging to me. I'm glad I got one when I did and I paid alot less than 1295.00.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 7:04:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2004 7:05:02 PM EST by cmm]

Originally Posted By wes15a2:

Originally Posted By alaman:
$1295 is too high.



It most cetainly is. Does anybody have a guess when
the prices will return to the $1k range?



Not likely to since Colt is purportedly not going to sell to the civilian market anymore. Ya want a $900 rifle? Get a Bushmaster or RRA. Good luck finding LE model Colts for that amount. Yeah, I tried, many are advertising at around $900-$1000 but you will be on the bottom of the waiting list. For those that say they can get them in stock, I'd get several if I were you.

One guy (an RRA dealer) laughed at me when I asked to get one for $910 as advertised on his website. Been out of stock since the ban expired. So he tried to do the bait and switch crap on me. Should have told him to f**k off, he should update his website.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 7:14:47 PM EST
Gentlemen the price on the 6920 from distributors to dealers is and was 800.00 to 850.00, that price includes FET, the rest is mark-up. My guess is it will takes years for some of these dealers to fill an order for more than ten rifles. The distributors have been sending in orders for up to 200 rifles at a time with a hope of getting half of that number. How can a dealer expect to receive that many rifles when it appears Colt hasn't stepped up the production.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 7:41:09 PM EST
Fantastic people to deal with, Tina is very good at what she does.

I've bought stuff from them on several occasions.

Mine will be in this afternoon but I doubt I'll be shooting it, Hell I never get time to shoot anymore
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 7:52:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By YardDogOne:

Originally Posted By tfisch67:
S.A.W. (Ken and Tina) and Gundealer3...great people to do business with.



SAW is charging the FET tax, they will give LEO's a price without the FET tax, probably Colts idea




Please stop posting information that is incorrect. LEO are not able to purchase without paying FET, only departments are able to get away with that. Colt has nothing to do with federal law....

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 7:55:17 PM EST
$1250 is what I paid for mine when it was BANNED!

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 7:55:17 PM EST
Ken and Tina Elmore are great to deal with, the story on the LE6920HB is below
Right now they have some good deals on Stamped Colt 30 rounders with the Red Springs


1SEP04 COLT MODEL LE6920HB

The Colt LE6920HB was spec'ed and designed at Specialized Armament in the Summer of 2003, and is the second in a series of special production Colt law enforcement carbines developed to provide agencies and officers with unique features not found on standard production Colt AR-15 and M16/M4 series firearms. (The first in this series was the AR6320/6330 Police Patrol Carbine.)

In Early Fall 2003, Colt accepted the proposal and purchase order for the required minimum 300 LE6920HB's with the newly created 16 inch "M4 heavy Barrel" based on the 14.5 inch SOCOM M4A1 barrel (R0921HB). A production date was set for late Nov 2003 and all 300 units plus spare barrels, parts and magazines arrived at Specialized Armament on 15DEC03.

The LE6920HB was in fact produced exclusively for Specialized Armament and all authentic "HB's" originated at this company after arriving from Colt's factory on 6 pallets. The serial number range extends between LE014388 - LE015184 as Colt randomly pulled lower receivers from LE6920 and LE6921 production to assemble the small run of LE6920HB's. Specialized Armament will provide an authentication letter on Colt letterhead (no charge) to anyone who has purchased one or more of these fine Colt firearms directly from us.

Quality Makes It a Colt,

Ken Elmore



Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:01:16 PM EST
Does anybody know if Colt is still producing the LEO6920s, all the dealers I have talked to are saying that Colt isn't even producing these rifles at the present time. Who's got an answer?
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:14:06 PM EST
I spoke with Colt last week, they are still producing 6920's not hb's, however, they aren't making the 6920's for civilian orders.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 4:28:49 PM EST
All the LE6920HB's are gone. Maybe they'll order another 300?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:59:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 6:00:55 PM EST by Bullitt3401]

Originally Posted By cmm:
All the LE6920HB's are gone. Maybe they'll order another 300?



Good question!

If S.A.W. ever did, the people who are paying $2,000.00+ on Gunbroker for these are going to freak.

I paid $1,150.00 for mine, not knowing at the time that only 300 had been made.

It's probably the rarest rifle I'll ever own.

Scott

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:02:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 6:04:37 PM EST by Darkest2000]

Originally Posted By cmm:
Not likely to since Colt is purportedly not going to sell to the civilian market anymore.



Colt never said that. This internet rumor shit has got to stop.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:05:44 PM EST
When your dealing with SAW make sure to tell them that your an AR15.com member for special treatment!
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:16:20 PM EST
What Colt did say is that they wouldn't be offering the LEO guns for the civilian market and that distributors were to sell them to LEO's only. This has been confirmed with distributors and Colt Customer service. Its how the distributors are dealing with this that makes the difference. Some still want letters while others are asking for photo-copies of badges/id's, then will sell the guns to the FFL's, really with no implied obligation as to who ends up with the weapon.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:20:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 6:22:51 PM EST by El_Roto]

Originally Posted By TheFNG:
When your dealing with SAW make sure to tell them that your an AR15.com member for special treatment!



"Here's your free upgrade, AR15.commer!"





"Tha' ku 'smuch!"
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 11:58:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By Darkest2000:

Originally Posted By cmm:
Not likely to since Colt is purportedly not going to sell to the civilian market anymore.



Colt never said that. This internet rumor shit has got to stop.



No kidding. Colt doesnt sell this rifle to civilians in the same way that Remington doesnt sell the 870PD to civilians. Give it some time and you will find your colts back on the shelves right next to the Bushmasters.

I know 30 people that just got in on a group buy for 6920s (NOT the HB models though) for $900 out the door.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 12:08:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By redmenace:

Originally Posted By Darkest2000:

Originally Posted By cmm:
Not likely to since Colt is purportedly not going to sell to the civilian market anymore.



Colt never said that. This internet rumor shit has got to stop.



No kidding. Colt doesnt sell this rifle to civilians in the same way that Remington doesnt sell the 870PD to civilians. Give it some time and you will find your colts back on the shelves right next to the Bushmasters.

I know 30 people that just got in on a group buy for 6920s (NOT the HB models though) for $900 out the door.


That's the group I want to be in! Were those still marked LEO?
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 12:12:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By El_Roto:

Originally Posted By TheFNG:
When your dealing with SAW make sure to tell them that your an AR15.com member for special treatment!hr


"Here's your free upgrade, AR15.commer!"


ha



Doooohhhhhh!!!
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 1:45:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2004 1:47:20 AM EST by redmenace]

Originally Posted By 300M:

Originally Posted By redmenace:

Originally Posted By Darkest2000:

Originally Posted By cmm:
Not likely to since Colt is purportedly not going to sell to the civilian market anymore.



Colt never said that. This internet rumor shit has got to stop.



No kidding. Colt doesnt sell this rifle to civilians in the same way that Remington doesnt sell the 870PD to civilians. Give it some time and you will find your colts back on the shelves right next to the Bushmasters.

I know 30 people that just got in on a group buy for 6920s (NOT the HB models though) for $900 out the door.


That's the group I want to be in! Were those still marked LEO?



www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95390

Heres an amusing quote from that thread:


You guys should feel very fortunate

I saw a thread on AR-15.com...guys are swarming over these things at $1100 a pop.

Link Posted: 10/9/2004 5:41:54 AM EST
Well actually that was 900.00 plus 30.00 for FET, plus tax, dealer fee ect. That was also a post that started in August, before the ban expired and if the dealer had the order in right before the ban the cost of the rifles should have been 800.00 fet included. The only thing that would have been added was state tax and dealer fee. Since those days are gone look at the prices now, especially those hb's, my guess is those will be produced again.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 6:16:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By redmenace:

Originally Posted By 300M:

Originally Posted By redmenace:

Originally Posted By Darkest2000:

Originally Posted By cmm:
Not likely to since Colt is purportedly not going to sell to the civilian market anymore.



Colt never said that. This internet rumor shit has got to stop.



No kidding. Colt doesnt sell this rifle to civilians in the same way that Remington doesnt sell the 870PD to civilians. Give it some time and you will find your colts back on the shelves right next to the Bushmasters.

I know 30 people that just got in on a group buy for 6920s (NOT the HB models though) for $900 out the door.


That's the group I want to be in! Were those still marked LEO?



www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95390

Heres an amusing quote from that thread:


You guys should feel very fortunate

I saw a thread on AR-15.com...guys are swarming over these things at $1100 a pop.




Damn good price, but it's for "senior members only."

Not that I blame the seller, though.

Scott

Link Posted: 10/9/2004 12:41:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By Legend:
.... Since those days are gone look at the prices now, especially those hb's, my guess is those will be produced again.



Only if someone is willing to pony up for a minimum of 300 rifles ordered from Colt. And no, you nor I will be be able to order from Colt, only select dealers will be able to. According to SAW, they don't intend to special order any more of these, unless of course an LE agency wanted to buy a couple hundred. It's entirely possible but not likely. HB's have their utility in sustained full auto fire where the barrel can reach transition temperature after almost 600 rounds in 3 or so minutes. Something the average Joe SWAT member is not likely to see. The standard 6920 carbine is up to the task for 99.99% of the LE uses of the weapon.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 2:52:31 PM EST
I believe that Colt has said they don't intend to sell the LE marked guns to civilians, however they may produce a civilian version in the hb configuration and any other style just not with the LE markings.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 6:05:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By Stickman:

Originally Posted By YardDogOne:

Originally Posted By tfisch67:
S.A.W. (Ken and Tina) and Gundealer3...great people to do business with.



SAW is charging the FET tax, they will give LEO's a price without the FET tax, probably Colts idea




Please stop posting information that is incorrect. LEO are not able to purchase without paying FET, only departments are able to get away with that. Colt has nothing to do with federal law....




Not correct? it came straight from their web site
See below

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Part # Description Price In Stock

AR6320-9 MODEL AR6320, AR-15 LWT, POLICE PATROL CARBINE, .223 16in 1/9 LWT, FIELD SIGHTS(A1),SLIDING STOCK
SPECIAL PRODUCTION 1295.00 2

AR6320SP MODEL AR6320, SPECIAL PURPOSE, .223 10in BBL 1/7 OR 1/9 LWT, ENTRY TEAM VERSION OF THE STANDARD AR6320
CLASS III
SECURITY WEAPONS FOR THE 2002 WINTER OLYMPICS 1495.00 15

AR6450 MODEL AR6450, 9MM CARBINE 16in LWT BBL, FIELD SIGHTS (9MM), SLIDING STOCK
INDIVIDUAL OFFICER & AGENCY (WITHOUT FET) PRICING AVAILABLE 1195.00 0

AR6520 MODEL AR6520, A2 CARBINE, .223 16 1/7 LWT, SLIDING STOCK
INDIVIDUAL OFFICER & AGENCY (WITHOUT FET) PRICING AVAILABLE 1195.00 28

AR6525 MODEL AR6525, A2 CARBINE, .223 16IN 1/9 HBAR, SLIDING STOCK
1195.00 0

AR6721 MODEL AR6721, .223 16in 1/9 HBAR A3 TACTICAL CARBINE FLAT TOP, W/ REMOVABLE CARRY HANDLE, SLIDING STOCK
INDIVIDUAL OFFICER & AGENCY (WITHOUT FET) PRICING AVAILABLE 1249.00 17

AR6721SP MODEL AR6721, SPECIAL PURPOSE, .223 10in BBL 1/9 HBAR, ENTRY TEAM VERSION OF THE STANDARD AR6721
CLASS III
INDIVIDUAL OFFICER & AGENCY (WITHOUT FET) PRICING AVAILABLE 1595.00 32

LE6920 MODEL LE6920, .223 16in 1/7 M4 BARREL FLAT TOP M4 CARBINE SEMI W/ REMOVABLE CARRY HANDLE, SLIDING STOCK
INDIVIDUAL OFFICER & AGENCY (WITHOUT FET) PRICING AVAILABLE 1295.00 0

LE6920HB MODEL LE6920HB, .223 16in 1/7 M4A1 HEAVY BARREL (SOCOM) FLAT TOP M4 CARBINE SEMI W/ REMOVABLE CARRY HANDLE, SLIDING STOCK
SPECIAL PRODUCTION COLT FIREARM 300 UNITS MANUFACTURED
1595.00 0

LE6921 MODEL LE6921, .223 14.5in 1/7 M4, FLAT TOP CARBINE SEMI, W/ REMOVABLE CARRY HANDLE, SLIDING STOCK
CLASS III
INDIVIDUAL OFFICER & AGENCY (WITHOUT FET) PRICING AVAILABLE 1695.00 8

LE6921HB MODEL LE6921HB, .223 14.5in 1/7 M4 HEAVY BARREL FLAT TOP M4 CARBINE SEMI W/ REMOVABLE CARRY HANDLE, SLIDING STOCK CLASS III
INDIVIDUAL OFFICER & AGENCY (WITHOUT FET) PRICING AVAILABLE 1695.00 18

R0635 MODEL R0635, 9mm 10.5 SMG, FULL AUTO
RESTRICTED TO L/E AGENCIES ONLY
AGENCY PURCHASE PRICE WITHOUT F.E.T. LISTED 824.98

R0639 MODEL R0639, 9MM 10.5 SMG, BURST
RESTRICTED TO L/E AGENCIES ONLY
AGENCY PURCHASE PRICE WITHOUT F.E.T. LISTED 792.39

R0810 MODEL M203, 40mm GRENADE LAUNCHER W/ MOUNTING KIT FOR M4/M4A1 CARBINE
RESTRICTED TO L/E AGENCIES ONLY
AGENCY PURCHASE PRICE WITHOUT F.E.T. LISTED 905.56

R0933 MODEL R0933, .223 11.5 1/7 LWT, COMMANDO, FULL AUTO
RESTRICTED TO L/E AGENCIES ONLY
AGENCY PURCHASE PRICE WITHOUT F.E.T. LISTED 833.00

R0977 MODEL R0977, .223 14.5 1/7 M4, FULL AUTO
RESTRICTED TO L/E AGENCIES ONLY
AGENCY PURCHASE PRICE WITHOUT F.E.T. LISTED 950.91
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 9:29:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By Legend:
Well actually that was 900.00 plus 30.00 for FET, plus tax, dealer fee ect. That was also a post that started in August, before the ban expired and if the dealer had the order in right before the ban the cost of the rifles should have been 800.00 fet included. The only thing that would have been added was state tax and dealer fee. Since those days are gone look at the prices now, especially those hb's, my guess is those will be produced again.



You pay sales tax on items purchased in Alaska? Sorry man, that sucks.

I only pointed it out to give people an idea of the dealer cost on these things. As far as i know the wholesale price from colt hasnt changed. So these $1200 colts are being marked up close to $400 a pop. And this is for a rifle that is still being manufactured and will not ALWAYS be in limited supply.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 4:35:57 AM EST
Redmenace I agree with you, my complaint with that group purchase was that it was before the ban when the rifles were cheap and even at the price it stated it was way too much. I'm awaiting my second 6920, the first cost me 850.00 and the second now will be 800.00 and change. Both are Colt and marked LE. Most of these guys would do better if they shopped around. Ask your local dealer, stay away from dealers that have huge orders, they may fill them but it will take some time. The dealer I found only wants two rifles and is dealing with 4-5 distributors, compared to some dealer wanting near 100 rifles, how can they expect to fill those orders? In a fair timeframe?
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 8:28:42 AM EST
So what if someone is on a waiting list? What if they're saving up for the weapon and need the time to gather the cash?

You do it your way. Let others do it theirs.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 9:02:58 AM EST
SAW is gouging like a mother fucker. Ken is great and a wealth of knowledge, but that price if fucking horse shit.

It's not like we couldn't see the price on those guns before the sunset. But if people are crazy enough to pay it......
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 9:29:39 AM EST
I agree those guys are Eye fuckers.....I already got my guns....I have been trying to spare parts but cannot get an email or phone call returned
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 2:26:49 PM EST


So what if someone is on a waiting list? What if they're saving up for the weapon and need the time to gather the cash?

You do it your way. Let others do it theirs.

I don't have a problem with people saving up for a gun, however, most dealers will take a percentage of the cost. The dealer(s) listed want the whole cost down and hold the money if and when they can get the rifles. That way if the buyer were to ind a better deal, their money is still tied up with the previous dealer... My 2 cents...
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