I just found out that Knights was just awarded the contract for the Semi Auto sniper system.

We (82nd ABN)got the email today, so if this is old news, just ignore it.

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Congratulations to KAC

That is one awesome system.

And I guess got tweaked to be better yet.

id like to congratulate Cavarms too. according to Col. Lutz their SASS stock atarts life as a cav arms stock.

What was wrong with the M14 and a scope on it?

Quoted: What was wrong with the M14 and a scope on it?

Its a poor scope platform, inaccurate (by comparison-the SR25 shoots 1/2 MOA) parts are no longer in the system and armorers are no longer trained on the platform.

Dear Santa,

I've been a really really really good boy this year....

Quoted: What was wrong with the M14 and a scope on it?

The M14 is a fine weapon, but it has a few shortcomings:
1.)  Maintaining accuracy, especially with rough handling, takes more effort
2.)  Different manual of arms than the M16.  The KAC SR-25 is very similar, so not a lot of retraining is necessary
3.)  From a distance, the SR-25/AR-10/DPMS/Whatever LOOKS like an M16.  The enemy is less likely to target the guy with a different looking gun.  The enemy would know that the guy with the M14 is a bad-ass sniper, so take him out first if you get the chance.
4.)  Mounting a scope on an M14 is not as easily done as an SR-25
5.)  Modularity.  It is very easy to add/remove items to the SR-25 with a rail system.  I don't think that a rail system really exists for the M14 except for the Sage or Troy stock (both systems are very heavy I believe.)

It isn't really a knock on the M14, it just isn't setup to fulfill the needed role.

Yea I work with the guy on the far right.

He is the DIV Master Gunner, and the person that told me about KAC winning the contract.

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Quoted: Jeez... thats cool! photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/SASS-1_1.jpg

Pay attention people. THE BIG NEWS is NOT the gun. Look at that mag. It's a dedicated steel 7.62 mag designed for the AR15 style retention system. That makes all the difference IMO.

Simon

Quoted: Pay attention people. THE BIG NEWS is NOT the gun. Look at that mag. It's a dedicated steel 7.62 mag designed for the AR15 style retention system. That makes all the difference IMO. Simon

Had the magazine been a problem?

Quoted: Quoted: Pay attention people. THE BIG NEWS is NOT the gun. Look at that mag. It's a dedicated steel 7.62 mag designed for the AR15 style retention system. That makes all the difference IMO. Simon Had the magazine been a problem?

Please explain more. As far as I know KAC has always made their own .308 magazines.

Quoted: What was wrong with the M14 and a scope on it?

1) Old tech, poor ergonomics (hunting-rifle-with-a-mag design)

2) Less accurate due to gas-piston operating system and barreled-reciever-in-(ugh-WOOD)-stock design. Requires glass-bedding, and accuracy degrades as wood stock expands/contracts. AR operating system in the SR-25, combined with a reciever-supported design (a/o stock-bedded-reciever) allows for more accuracy.

3) AR-pattern weapon builds on familiarity with the M16 - everything works 'the same'

4) Much wider selection of accessories

The M14, all in all, was 'What the Garand should have been' - While it would have been a show-stopper in WWII, it was beyond it's time when adopted, and had one of the shortest lives as a standard-issue weapon in US history...

The only reason to deploy M14s in active service today is that they are allready paid for...

What SASS seems to be is a PSG-1 grade weapon - an entirely different ballpark from the warmed-over-M14-with-scope that seems to be getting some use here-and-there to fill the role of a 'designated marksman' weapon (a/o a true sniper rifle)...

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pay attention people. THE BIG NEWS is NOT the gun. Look at that mag. It's a dedicated steel 7.62 mag designed for the AR15 style retention system. That makes all the difference IMO. Simon Had the magazine been a problem? Please explain more. As far as I know KAC has always made their own .308 magazines.

Hopefully Simon will clue us in to what he's talking about, because I must be missing something.

Cool.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Pay attention people. THE BIG NEWS is NOT the gun. Look at that mag. It's a dedicated steel 7.62 mag designed for the AR15 style retention system. That makes all the difference IMO. Simon Had the magazine been a problem? Please explain more. As far as I know KAC has always made their own .308 magazines. Hopefully Simon will clue us in to what he's talking about, because I must be missing something.

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SR25's have always had their own magazines.  Did they change magazines/magazine designs with the SASS/XM110?   I guess ARM-H / XM110 magazine commonality would have been too much to ask