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Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:07:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/14/2021 11:01:32 PM EST by Wasd3r]
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Originally Posted By cviss:
Very cool ...

I play escape from tarkov

And they have Adar in it they say it was made from Israel semi auto only along with the parts


I thought it was a myth but I guess not very cool.  


Welcome aboard comrade and thanks for sharing
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I know ADAR 2-15 is depicted with wooden furniture in that game.

That's very real. I don't think they sold many rifles in this configuration. All I've seen at the range were tactical or race gun looking ones. Might have just made a few demo units like that before the company went belly up early last year, but here they are.







Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:09:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:


We're used to buying Tula and Barnaul .223 for about 11 cents a round.   Right now it's all being shipped to US to be sold for 60 c/round and we barely get any.
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Russia knows how to be capitalism .

Great and interesting info .
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:29:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/15/2021 12:50:15 AM EST by Wasd3r]
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Originally Posted By 18B30:
Question:

Do Russian cops carry off duty?

Do retired Russian cops get to keep their guns?

Are there collector permits?
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No off duty carry for cops, and retired police don't get to keep their guns. Unless they were "awarded" separately, see above.

In Russia you can normally have up to 5 shotguns, 5 rifles and 2 trauma pistols. But a collector license has become easy to get in the recent years, which gets rid of these limitations.

Only thing you can't do with a gun bought via a collector license is hunt. So some people switch their guns back and forth between license types. Most guns in the country are bought via a hunting-type license, including all of mine other than the trauma pistol.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 10:46:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/15/2021 3:34:40 AM EST by Wasd3r]
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Originally Posted By Mustang-Man:


That lower is gorgeous! I just spent the last 15min scrolling through his IG page and I had to follow. That guy builds some beautiful guns and is incredibly skilled. I so wish I could buy one of those receiver sets.

This thread is awesome and incredibly insightful, majors thanks to OP for creating this thread and being so open and willing to ask all of our questions.

Now one question myself. Can someone who wasn't born in Russia able to own rifles and shotguns, after becoming a citizen of course, or can only Russian born citizens own firearms?

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No restrictions for non-Russian born citizens. If you have a Russian passport, you're good to go.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 11:08:35 PM EST
That thumbhole stock, I want that.  Very nice.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 11:29:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FlyingMailman:

Agreed. I hate the way politicians try to drive a wedge between peoples, but at least we have ways to communicate about shared interests regardless!
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Originally Posted By FlyingMailman:
Originally Posted By Vlad75:
Sometimes the Internet is very amazing thing. There so many gun interested people on the Internet from any country of the world. I don't know any other domain, where people are talking to each other so freely, never minding about anything like the country they are coming from. Ar15.com is a very important source of knowledge and exange of points of view.

Agreed. I hate the way politicians try to drive a wedge between peoples, but at least we have ways to communicate about shared interests regardless!


It has always been my belief that the Russian people and the American people could be brothers, it is the governments that are the problem.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 11:31:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By backbencher:


That's an interesting looking spacer/guide at the back of the recoil spring.  Know anything about it?
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They call it a recoil buffer. Probably needed because this is a straight blowback gun.

Check out the official disassembly video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BUsgOzart0
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 11:32:09 PM EST
if arfcom is the largest gun forum in the world, guns.ru (ganza) is a close second... I am a Russian-born/Israeli-raised/25 years in USA jewneck myself, and participate in both forums with the same username :)

I was planning to go to Ekaterinburg region last fall for a hunt with people I met on guns.ru but Covid pushed it out - hopefully will be able to go this year!

Nice guns! and welcome to the forum
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 11:36:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/15/2021 12:13:12 AM EST by backbencher]
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:  They call it a recoil buffer. Probably needed because this is a straight blowback gun.

Check out the official disassembly video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BUsgOzart0
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Interesting - we just use quarters.

ETA:  Almost looks as if it's a solid steel slug, w/ no buffer tip, and they're using the extra buffer @ the bottom of the spring instead of a rubber bumper tip on the buffer.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 11:55:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/14/2021 11:56:43 PM EST by Blackhalo]
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Originally Posted By Mach:


It has always been my belief that the Russian people and the American people could be brothers, it is the governments that are the problem.
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Indeed.

Good stuff OP...Your English is damn impressive.

Perst lasers/illuminators are taking off over here due to our civilian restrictions on lasers. You'd make a nice distributor for them
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 12:10:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/15/2021 4:12:28 AM EST by Wasd3r]
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Dang OP is pretty cool.

I will request the following.


More Pictures of what a Russian Gun Shop looks like along with ranges.

What is Russia's largest online Gun Forums? Any that we as Americans can see.

How is American Arms viewed in Russia?
Both Modern & Historical

And lastly

How many Russian Police or special military groups use the AR15 currently?

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I might make a different thread later about ranges and gun shops in Russia.

Attitudes toward US firearms are all over the place. From complete adoration as symbols of freedom and tacticool awesomeness to people talking about how the ping on a Garand would get you killed and how an AR would jam with a single grain of sand. I guess I'm closer to the former extreme.

The largest Russian gun forum is the old and archaic https://forum.guns.ru. There are a lot of VK and Telegram groups and chatrooms as well.

I don't know of particular units using AR-15's for duty, but here are a few pictures from a recent memorial competition in St. Petersburg where a lot of supposedly SF guys used AR's. Mostly as personal firearms I guess, but some might be duty weapons as well.

You can see Italian ADC, Russian ADAR and Chinese Norinco AR's here.














Here's a link to the photographer's VK page with a lot more photos like these https://vk.com/albums518768606

He also has a YT channel https://www.youtube.com/c/LazarevTactical
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 12:28:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By The-Ant1-Liberal:
Thanks for posting from Mother Russia...quick question.  I see your upper is marked ".223"...can you fire 5.56mm out of your AR?  

Really cool ARs BTW...thanks for posting Bro!
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I believe Molot makes 5,56 chambers on their AR barrels, so 5,56 should be fine for both rifles.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 12:55:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/15/2021 1:05:46 AM EST by Soberglitch]
Those ADC rifles are so badass.

Are there any firearms or accessories that Americans have that you wish you could own over there?

I know I wish I could buy the ARs you’ve shown us so far. I can’t even imagine the AKs over there that we’d be dying to have.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 1:17:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/15/2021 1:18:11 AM EST by Wasd3r]
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Originally Posted By Soberglitch:
Those ADC rifles are so badass.

Are there any firearms or accessories that Americans have that you wish you could own over there?

I know I wish I could buy the ARs you’ve shown us so far. I can’t even imagine the AKs over there that we’d be dying to have.
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I wish we could have regular handguns.

Other than that it's just a question of being willing to pay exorbitant prices for imported US firearms at this point.

One thing I'd really like to get my hands on is the new KP-15 polymer lower by KE Arms. I'm a huge InrangeTV fan, so I really want to build my own version of the WWSD rifle that Ian and Karl created. And since the lower is a firearm according to US law, I can't just order it from a US seller. Might have to wait till some of these lowers end up in a European country with laws similar to Russia when it comes to AR lowers before I manage to get one.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 3:27:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/15/2021 3:27:51 AM EST by Wasd3r]
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Originally Posted By NoMoAMMO:
Are you a Slaughter to Prevail, HardBass or Grai kind of guy?

I'd like to see pics of the semi only conversion to the AKM if you wouldn't mind?
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I'm more of a Limp Bizkit and Deftones kind of guy, but STP is cool too. My band's been recording our new songs in the same studio where they record drums. Bandcamp link if you want to check us out

I posted a few more pics of my AK in the New AK pic thread. Hopefully you'll see what you're looking for there. https://www.ar15.com/forums/ak-47/New-AK-pic-thread-Lets-see-them-Fellas-/64-100995/?r=-1&page=113&anc=1431360#i1431360
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 4:37:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By Wasd3r:
Hey there! I live in Moscow, Russia and I've got a couple Russian-made ARs.

My first rifle is a St-Petersburg-made ADAR 2-15. It's basically a no-frills milspec AR with a 16" barrel and a cheap M-Lok handguard. I've dressed it up a bit with Magpul furniture, so this is how it looks now:

https://i.imgur.com/FwK7Is3.png https://i.imgur.com/AKYMm3R.png

Here's a better view of markings on the side:

https://i.imgur.com/p0A9BLE.jpg

My other AR is a Moscow-made FORT AR-15. It's a basic AR as well, but this one has a 12,5" barrel, which is the shortest you can have because of overall length requirements.

This is the carbine with the original handguard:



Moscow model is going to throw a hammer pin.

https://i.imgur.com/6RSbeh4.jpg

I've since changed the handguard to a Midwest Industries one, and this is how I normally have the FORT set up:

https://i.imgur.com/7iA93Q3.jpg

Side markings

https://i.imgur.com/z79rWiM.jpg

A range pic with both rifles

https://i.imgur.com/B2FEafx.jpg

Both rifles have heavy-profile chrome-lined Molot barrels. The upper and lower receivers are supposedly Taiwanese, and smaller components probably come from China. There are companies in Russia that also make ARs and cut their own receivers on CNC's, and I'll probably show them in another post.

Stock triggers were milspec. I currently have KE ARMS SLT-1 triggers in both rifles.


I'd love to answer whatever questions you have, now that I've been able to join the forum.
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Link Posted: 1/15/2021 7:00:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:

I might make a different thread later about ranges and gun shops in Russia.

Attitudes toward US firearms are all over the place. From complete adoration as symbols of freedom and tacticool awesomeness to people talking about how the ping on a Garand would get you killed and how an AR would jam with a single grain of sand. I guess I'm closer to the former extreme.

The largest Russian gun forum is the old and archaic https://forum.guns.ru. There are a lot of VK and Telegram groups and chatrooms as well.

I don't know of particular units using AR-15's for duty, but here are a few pictures from a recent memorial competition in St. Petersburg where a lot of supposedly SF guys used AR's. Mostly as personal firearms I guess, but some might be duty weapons as well.

You can see Italian ADC, Russian ADAR and Chinese Norinco AR's here.

https://i.imgur.com/Ksfaxzv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ccXG10u.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kljIryn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xFWczDc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FmZ3e7x.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ptzB96f.jpg


Here's a link to the photographer's VK page with a lot more photos like these https://vk.com/albums518768606

He also has a YT channel https://www.youtube.com/c/LazarevTactical
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Thanks for answering my questions.

I have a few more.

Here state side the AK collector market is crazy. Guys paying upwards of $100 for Bakelite 47 mags and triple that for other “rare” AK mags.

In Russia is there a big demand for older American AR mags?


Also what AR parts / components are highly sought after in Russia that maybe very common place here in America?


Lastly I have one of the KE arms lowers and so far I’m very impressed. I too found the wwsd series very intriguing so set out to build my own. Pretty happy how it turned out. My rail is not the lightest so my do something about that later. But with suppressor and loaded mag is 6.7lbs
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 10:18:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:

I'm more of a Limp Bizkit and Deftones kind of guy, but STP is cool too. My band's been recording our new songs in the same studio where they record drums. Bandcamp link if you want to check us out

I posted a few more pics of my AK in the New AK pic thread. Hopefully you'll see what you're looking for there. https://www.ar15.com/forums/ak-47/New-AK-pic-thread-Lets-see-them-Fellas-/64-100995/?r=-1&page=113&anc=1431360#i1431360
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Awesome thanks!!!

Checked the band out...gotta a very dark 90's feel to it. Almost like a subdued Garbage. I like it
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 1:02:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:



Thanks for answering my questions.

I have a few more.

Here state side the AK collector market is crazy. Guys paying upwards of $100 for Bakelite 47 mags and triple that for other “rare” AK mags.

In Russia is there a big demand for older American AR mags?


Also what AR parts / components are highly sought after in Russia that maybe very common place here in America?


Lastly I have one of the KE arms lowers and so far I’m very impressed. I too found the wwsd series very intriguing so set out to build my own. Pretty happy how it turned out. My rail is not the lightest so my do something about that later. But with suppressor and loaded mag is 6.7lbs
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Most Russian AR owners see it more as a practical rifle, not something to buy collectible stuff for.

Finally we get to have a gun that you can mount optics to easily, without worrying about zero shifting every time you clean the gun or using a mount that, while reliable, also prevents you from using irons if you want to.
Finally a safety in a nice location.
Finally a bolt hold open device that's automatic and that you can easily use.
Finally no extra moving mass on top of the barrel and a proper cheek weld on even a basic stock with a lot of optics on the market like an EoTech, for example.
As a new AK owner I also got to appreciate just how much easier an AR is to do a mag change on reliably.
And a free-float hanguard is way easier to have on an AR than on an AK, which helps with accurate shooting off barricades and bipods.

Still, I certainly wish US-made mags were more accessible. And I'm waiting on some company here to start making chrome plated bolt carriers for easier cleaning.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 1:06:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 18B30:
Such irony..Russians making AR-15's, while Americans are making AK-47's.....
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Very True
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 1:13:27 PM EST
Thanks for sharing and welcome to ARFCOM.

Your English is excellent, by the way.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 1:26:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
That's pretty awesome and now you have 10% of the site debating a move to Russia.
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Friend of mine came to USA to escape Socialism.
This month he's talking about returning to Greece/EU to escape Socialism.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 1:27:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:

Most Russian AR owners see it more as a practical rifle, not something to buy collectible stuff for.

Finally we get to have a gun that you can mount optics to easily, without worrying about zero shifting every time you clean the gun or using a mount that, while reliable, also prevents you from using irons if you want to.
Finally a safety in a nice location.
Finally a bolt hold open device that's automatic and that you can easily use.
Finally no extra moving mass on top of the barrel and a proper cheek weld on even a basic stock with a lot of optics on the market like an EoTech, for example.
As a new AK owner I also got to appreciate just how much easier an AR is to do a mag change on reliably.
And a free-float hanguard is way easier to have on an AR than on an AK, which helps with accurate shooting off barricades and bipods.

Still, I certainly wish US-made mags were more accessible. And I'm waiting on some company here to start making chrome plated bolt carriers for easier cleaning.
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you guys clean aks?
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 1:38:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By weapons_free:

you guys clean aks?
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A buddy of mine certainly does.

Here's proof:

Link Posted: 1/15/2021 4:01:16 PM EST
That's pretty darn cool OP.

Welcome to the forum.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 4:10:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:

I might make a different thread later about ranges and gun shops in Russia.

Attitudes toward US firearms are all over the place. From complete adoration as symbols of freedom and tacticool awesomeness to people talking about how the ping on a Garand would get you killed and how an AR would jam with a single grain of sand. I guess I'm closer to the former extreme.

The largest Russian gun forum is the old and archaic https://forum.guns.ru. There are a lot of VK and Telegram groups and chatrooms as well.

I don't know of particular units using AR-15's for duty, but here are a few pictures from a recent memorial competition in St. Petersburg where a lot of supposedly SF guys used AR's. Mostly as personal firearms I guess, but some might be duty weapons as well.

You can see Italian ADC, Russian ADAR and Chinese Norinco AR's here.

https://i.imgur.com/Ksfaxzv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ccXG10u.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kljIryn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xFWczDc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FmZ3e7x.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ptzB96f.jpg


Here's a link to the photographer's VK page with a lot more photos like these https://vk.com/albums518768606

He also has a YT channel https://www.youtube.com/c/LazarevTactical
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Dang OP is pretty cool.

I will request the following.


More Pictures of what a Russian Gun Shop looks like along with ranges.

What is Russia's largest online Gun Forums? Any that we as Americans can see.

How is American Arms viewed in Russia?
Both Modern & Historical

And lastly

How many Russian Police or special military groups use the AR15 currently?


I might make a different thread later about ranges and gun shops in Russia.

Attitudes toward US firearms are all over the place. From complete adoration as symbols of freedom and tacticool awesomeness to people talking about how the ping on a Garand would get you killed and how an AR would jam with a single grain of sand. I guess I'm closer to the former extreme.

The largest Russian gun forum is the old and archaic https://forum.guns.ru. There are a lot of VK and Telegram groups and chatrooms as well.

I don't know of particular units using AR-15's for duty, but here are a few pictures from a recent memorial competition in St. Petersburg where a lot of supposedly SF guys used AR's. Mostly as personal firearms I guess, but some might be duty weapons as well.

You can see Italian ADC, Russian ADAR and Chinese Norinco AR's here.

https://i.imgur.com/Ksfaxzv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ccXG10u.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kljIryn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xFWczDc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FmZ3e7x.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ptzB96f.jpg


Here's a link to the photographer's VK page with a lot more photos like these https://vk.com/albums518768606

He also has a YT channel https://www.youtube.com/c/LazarevTactical


Oh, you've done it now OP.

Now some guys here are gonna want to clone Russian ARs.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 5:22:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:

Most Russian AR owners see it more as a practical rifle, not something to buy collectible stuff for.

Finally we get to have a gun that you can mount optics to easily, without worrying about zero shifting every time you clean the gun or using a mount that, while reliable, also prevents you from using irons if you want to.
Finally a safety in a nice location.
Finally a bolt hold open device that's automatic and that you can easily use.
Finally no extra moving mass on top of the barrel and a proper cheek weld on even a basic stock with a lot of optics on the market like an EoTech, for example.
As a new AK owner I also got to appreciate just how much easier an AR is to do a mag change on reliably.
And a free-float hanguard is way easier to have on an AR than on an AK, which helps with accurate shooting off barricades and bipods.

Still, I certainly wish US-made mags were more accessible. And I'm waiting on some company here to start making chrome plated bolt carriers for easier cleaning.
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Has the RS regulate series of optics mounts made it to Russia yet? They are pretty freaking cool for the guys who want to run optics on AKs. Mine is left stock. Except for the PBS-1 iron sight. Speaking of I download the manual too and did a Google translate and it still made 0 sense.

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What USA products are available in Russia? Any major brands? Seems like I have seen a Mission First stock and maybe magpul.
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:


Has the RS regulate series of optics mounts made it to Russia yet? They are pretty freaking cool for the guys who want to run optics on AKs. Mine is left stock. Except for the PBS-1 iron sight. Speaking of I download the manual too and did a Google translate and it still made 0 sense.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/424008/99E04877-8236-4A92-8204-0880E5F38D04_jpe-1780689.JPG

What USA products are available in Russia? Any major brands? Seems like I have seen a Mission First stock and maybe magpul.
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RS Regulate is considered kind of old news. Right now a popular solution for mounting optics on an AK is replacing the rear sight with a permanent rail. Like this:

The company that makes them is called Kochevnik. Here's their website in Russian: https://kochevnik.info

We can get pretty much anything from the US in terms of gun accessories and even optics. They just cost more. Controlled parts like barrels and bolts are almost impossible to get in though. And complete firearms are super expensive because of complicated paths they have to take to be imported from the US into Russia.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 5:50:22 PM EST
Cool thread.

Link Posted: 1/15/2021 5:53:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:

RS Regulate is considered kind of old news. Right now a popular solution for mounting optics on an AK is replacing the rear sight with a permanent rail. Like this: https://kochevnik.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Screenshot_20200221_090233.jpg

The company that makes them is called Kochevnik. Here's their website in Russian: https://kochevnik.info

We can get pretty much anything from the US in terms of gun accessories and even optics. They just cost more. Controlled parts like barrels and bolts are almost impossible to get in though. And complete firearms are super expensive because of complicated paths they have to take to be imported from the US into Russia.
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We have some here state side similar to that. Think they are viewed as a weaker design. But to each his own.

You speak of cost. Just how much of a mark up are we talking about here? 25% - 50% over MSRP?
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 6:03:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:


We have some here state side similar to that. Think they are viewed as a weaker design. But to each his own.

You speak of cost. Just how much of a mark up are we talking about here? 25% - 50% over MSRP?
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Yeah, your markup range is about right for a lot of accessories.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 6:09:41 PM EST
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Zenitco has now gone into making AR accessories as well.

I personally don't find them appealing and I've not heard any reports in terms of quality or usability, but this is your chance to dress your AR's up with some authentic Russian stuff.



They have a whole section on their website now with handguards, muzzle brakes, grips, handstops and such. https://en.zenitco.ru/catalog/%20AR-15%20upgrade/
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 6:57:28 PM EST
Midwest Industries.
ITAR.

What the fuck?
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 7:27:45 PM EST
Awesome info.. Thanks for sharing !!!!!
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 9:43:12 PM EST
You can (legally) have better (well, better features) rifles in Russia than we can have in NY state.  The whole "not caring" thing happens at ranges here, too.  
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 11:05:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:


We're used to buying Tula and Barnaul .223 for about 11 cents a round. Right now it's all being shipped to US to be sold for 60 c/round and we barely get any.
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:
Originally Posted By MadeintheUSA:
Thanks for sharing. That's really cool to see ARs with Russian markings.

What is the cost per round for 5.56/.223?


We're used to buying Tula and Barnaul .223 for about 11 cents a round. Right now it's all being shipped to US to be sold for 60 c/round and we barely get any.
That sucks. I guess everyone is getting screwed by this election and the COVID scam.
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 11:06:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:


I've got this 1969 AKM converted into semi-auto by Molot. Also have a rubber-bullet-only semi-auto pistol, but it's not something you'd recognize.

https://i.imgur.com/coEQoLc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dVAZCBc.jpg
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:
Originally Posted By Deussne:
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing. Your laws are less strict than some states in the US. How ironic. Do you own any Russian pattern firearms?


I've got this 1969 AKM converted into semi-auto by Molot. Also have a rubber-bullet-only semi-auto pistol, but it's not something you'd recognize.

https://i.imgur.com/coEQoLc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dVAZCBc.jpg
That's really cool!
Link Posted: 1/15/2021 11:10:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:

Thanks. Nope, born and raised in Russia. I had private language lessons as a kid, and then I practiced by reading forums and articles and consuming a lot of Youtube videos and American TV shows.
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:
Originally Posted By AS556:
Are you an American? Your English is better than many of our US posters.

Thanks. Nope, born and raised in Russia. I had private language lessons as a kid, and then I practiced by reading forums and articles and consuming a lot of Youtube videos and American TV shows.
Great job. You must have studied hard. I was literally going to ask the same question until I saw this post.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 1:07:15 AM EST
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It’s cool that you have AR15s.

In the internet knife communities Russians and Americans have a very similar love of knives.  I know of Limited editions of Benchmade knives that were only available in Russia.  They are sought after by American collectors.

Welcome OP  
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:
Zenitco has now gone into making AR accessories as well.

I personally don't find them appealing and I've not heard any reports in terms of quality or usability, but this is your chance to dress your AR's up with some authentic Russian stuff.

https://i.imgur.com/L8mVSeK.png

They have a whole section on their website now with handguards, muzzle brakes, grips, handstops and such. https://en.zenitco.ru/catalog/%20AR-15%20upgrade/
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I'm in the states and owned one of their 8.85" Rail briefly. Very high quality, although the barrel nut and install method leave something to be desired. The rail and included covers/handstop make for an incredibly comfortable grip. I sold it, but im waiting for their new model that integrates the Perst series of lasers into the handguard.
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Originally Posted By wildearp:
Midwest Industries.
ITAR.

What the fuck?
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Same reason talibans been found with US commercial night vision.

Where there’s a will there’s a way.
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Midwest Industries.
ITAR.

What the fuck?
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When someone has drugs do you say what about drug laws? Wtf? People do illegal shit all the time.
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Originally Posted By wildearp:
Midwest Industries.
ITAR.

What the fuck?
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I guess we shouldn't tell you that the Russian military has been using L3 products for over a decade or that they have GPNVGs...

There are perfectly legal ways to export firearms parts from the US to Russia, within the bounds of ITAR.

There are also plenty of forwarding services in the US who don't ask questions (see also: Japanese Airsoft Collectors).

Link Posted: 1/16/2021 12:26:19 PM EST
Great thread!

I have a question. What if some of your new friends wanted to send you parts that you can’t get in Russia? Are there products that we could send that wouldn’t get anyone into trouble? if so, what parts would be okay to ship and what parts would be restricted?

What parts would you want if you could get them from America?

Link Posted: 1/16/2021 1:13:40 PM EST
Very nice tread op! Id be in for some trading lol.
Best tread I've seen in a while.
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Originally Posted By alexA2:
Great thread!

I have a question. What if some of your new friends wanted to send you parts that you can’t get in Russia? Are there products that we could send that wouldn’t get anyone into trouble? if so, what parts would be okay to ship and what parts would be restricted?

What parts would you want if you could get them from America?

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Apart from the controlled parts like barrels and bolts, almost anything is fine.
As I said a few posts prior, a KE Arms KP-15 polymer lower would be cool to have, but I don't expect to be able to get that from the US as that is considered a firearm according to US federal law.

Other than that, some FDE or MCT PMAGs would be cool too. And a Geiselle ambi charging handle or something similar. Right now I'm running supposedly Russian-made Radian Raptor knock-offs, and I have doubts regarding their reliability.

An SLR absolute cowitness Holosun IB mount for the HS 503CU I have on the longer carbine is also on my list of stuff I'd like to get. The stock mount is a bit too tall.

I've been having light primer strikes with non-milspec triggers on the Russian ammo with its harder primers, so I'll probably try a 5,45-specific AR firing pin to see if that detonates them more reliably. Or maybe I should try cleaning the firing pin channel in the bolt carrier instead.




Link Posted: 1/16/2021 6:40:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:

Apart from the controlled parts like barrels and bolts, almost anything is fine.
As I said a few posts prior, a KE Arms KP-15 polymer lower would be cool to have, but I don't expect to be able to get that from the US as that is considered a firearm according to US federal law.

Other than that, some FDE or MCT PMAGs would be cool too. And a Geiselle ambi charging handle or something similar. Right now I'm running supposedly Russian-made Radian Raptor knock-offs, and I have doubts regarding their reliability. http://i5.stat01.com/1/9953/99522978/afacdb/rukoyatka-vzvoda-dvustoronnyaya-quot-raptor-quot-raptor.jpg

An SLR absolute cowitness Holosun IB mount for the HS 503CU I have on the longer carbine is also on my list of stuff I'd like to get. The stock mount is a bit too tall.

I've been having light primer strikes with non-milspec triggers on the Russian ammo with its harder primers, so I'll probably try a 5,45-specific AR firing pin to see if that detonates them more reliably. Or maybe I should try cleaning the firing pin channel in the bolt carrier instead.




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How much do Russian Bakelite mags cost?

AK47 30s & 40s?

AK74 30s & 40s?

State side the 47s are close to $100 each now.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 7:06:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wasd3r:

Apart from the controlled parts like barrels and bolts, almost anything is fine.
As I said a few posts prior, a KE Arms KP-15 polymer lower would be cool to have, but I don't expect to be able to get that from the US as that is considered a firearm according to US federal law.

Other than that, some FDE or MCT PMAGs would be cool too. And a Geiselle ambi charging handle or something similar. Right now I'm running supposedly Russian-made Radian Raptor knock-offs, and I have doubts regarding their reliability. http://i5.stat01.com/1/9953/99522978/afacdb/rukoyatka-vzvoda-dvustoronnyaya-quot-raptor-quot-raptor.jpg

An SLR absolute cowitness Holosun IB mount for the HS 503CU I have on the longer carbine is also on my list of stuff I'd like to get. The stock mount is a bit too tall.

I've been having light primer strikes with non-milspec triggers on the Russian ammo with its harder primers, so I'll probably try a 5,45-specific AR firing pin to see if that detonates them more reliably. Or maybe I should try cleaning the firing pin channel in the bolt carrier instead.




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You want Geissele products, you want SD3G trigger.

Oh wait. You have hard primers over there...
Do you guys get wolf gold? Or just steel cased ammo?
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 12:42:35 AM EST
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How much do Russian Bakelite mags cost?

AK47 30s & 40s?

AK74 30s & 40s?

State side the 47s are close to $100 each now.
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I see 30s go for $8-10. 40s and 45s are available for $15-20.

I bought a stack of worn AK mags for about $5 each a few years back, and so far they've worked fine for me.



Link Posted: 1/17/2021 12:48:41 AM EST
Here's a .223 mag comparison pic with a Russian Pufgun 10 round, a Pufgun 30 round, a Magpul gen 3 30 round and a Pufgun 45 round.

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