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Posted: 10/17/2016 6:49:27 PM EDT
First of all I do not know why we call him Braceman. My vote is just TheMan. He is the man for sure.

I sent him 3 80% 2 Nodak full fence A1's and one Anderson A2

He engraved a 607, XM177e2 and a 733. He shaved on of the full fences down to half fence for the 607.

Worth every penny.

Thanks John

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Link Posted: 10/17/2016 7:05:37 PM EDT
5 thumbs up! Very, very, very well done.
I'm just getting a lower ready for shipment to braceman.
Maybe 2 more by next year after I learn how to mill out the FCG pocket!
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 7:40:17 PM EDT
I've had two 80% lowers engraved and re-profiled by Braceman (an XM177E2 and a 605).
The man's an artist. Worth every penny!
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:01:32 PM EDT
Wow, those look fantastic! Braceman has 2 of mine now. Cant wait to get them back! He does FANTASTIC work.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:09:19 PM EDT
Absolutely would not hesitate to send to him again.....well other than I am now broke from having to get treatment for my disease.

Dr,- read wife - said that I must refrain from retro exposure until the tremors and sweats cease and then I can only be exposed in small and supervised doses.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 10:20:01 PM EDT
Hey Travis; any chance that your Dr could give you some therapy to help distract you for a while?
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 10:58:07 PM EDT
Damn, they look great.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 11:32:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By travisintally:
Absolutely would not hesitate to send to him again.....well other than I am now broke from having to get treatment for my disease.

Dr,- read wife - said that I must refrain from retro exposure until the tremors and sweats cease and then I can only be exposed in small and supervised doses.
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At least you admit you have the RBRD. Some of us are still living in the denial
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:39:23 AM EDT
No sear pin engraving???????
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 6:33:50 AM EDT
The "Dr." did say that more retro meant less "therapy"

I like "therapy"


Moving on to the subject of pin holes, I guess I just did not want to have to either ignore or address inquiring minds at the range. Maybe a little overthought but short loud COOL guns draw attention as they are.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 6:44:15 AM EDT
Looks great. I have a question though. I have a 80% with braceman now. Do you have it anodized before you mil it out or after?
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 8:13:29 AM EDT
Mill out - then anodize is what I am doing.

Link Posted: 10/18/2016 9:41:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BROvet04:
Looks great. I have a question though. I have a 80% with braceman now. Do you have it anodized before you mil it out or after?
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You want to mill it complete, then anodize. That way, your pivot pin holes get anodized too, and those holes ARE what can wear out on a lower.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 11:13:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:

You want to mill it complete, then anodize. That way, your pivot pin holes get anodized too, and those holes ARE what can wear out on a lower.
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Originally Posted By Stoner25mkiv:
Originally Posted By BROvet04:
Looks great. I have a question though. I have a 80% with braceman now. Do you have it anodized before you mil it out or after?

You want to mill it complete, then anodize. That way, your pivot pin holes get anodized too, and those holes ARE what can wear out on a lower.



I guess it's ok to send it to US Anodizing after it's milled?
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 1:49:57 PM EDT
Yes

It is my understanding that they can and wil anodize completed firearms.

Link Posted: 10/18/2016 11:15:06 PM EDT
Anyone know if he does H&R engraving?
Link Posted: 10/20/2016 4:06:51 PM EDT
Sorry for what may be a dumb question: can a finished 100 % complete lower be engraved to show COLT AR-15
Property of US Governemt etc. as we see on the 80% lowers as long as the serial number and name of original manufacturer remain in tact?
Link Posted: 10/20/2016 7:32:39 PM EDT
Not a dumb question

Sure you can as like you said do not obliterate model and serial # markings.
Link Posted: 10/20/2016 11:42:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By canters:
Sorry for what may be a dumb question: can a finished 100 % complete lower be engraved to show COLT AR-15
Property of US Governemt etc. as we see on the 80% lowers as long as the serial number and name of original manufacturer remain in tact?
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Please, anyone who knows otherwise correct me on this. I know this is one of those areas that can change wildly as the ATF changes interpretations and as case law arises.

As I understand it, It's kind of a funny grey area because a homemade firearm for personal use doesn't actually need to be engraved at all. It is encouraged to uniquely identify it so that if it is ever stolen it can be returned, as well as any other instances were documenting it individually would be relevant such as an insurance claim in the case of property damage like fire or flood. The ATF also has guidelines as to engraving requirements, but some pieces of information (such as logos and selector markings) are done voluntarily and the location is relatively broad as to where it can be - the magwell side and above the fire control group pins is done by most companies in the industry to keep things simple. I assume that a good majority of people who get these types of engravings also get their own maker engravings somewhere else on the gun, such as the front of the magwell, the magwell bevel, the trigger guard, etc. This may seem misleading, but when a firearm is NFAed into an SBR and it is engraved with the form 1 info, it is technically re-manufactured and has two manufacture markings but only the newest is the correct information. This is a similar type of thing where you have two sets of markings, where one is essentially cosmetic and the other is real. Obviously your maker information needs to be unique (you don't want to make a dozen "Bob-15s" all with serial "#001") and it's a good idea to also make sure the cosmetic information is unique as well - the last thing you want is real government property or a registered MG to go missing, and you have in your hands the rifle with that info on it. Most people I've heard mention this either buy a demilled receiver and use that serial so it's known to be a destroyed gun or they pick a number outside the range of manufacture - such as serial number 160,XXX when production stopped at 120,000.

Again, that's as I understand it. I'm not a lawyer, nor part of the ATF, and obviously your local laws apply in regards to all of the above and may not apply to your locale.
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