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Posted: 7/6/2003 7:27:14 PM EDT
I'm in the market for a Semi-Auto in .308 any advice or recommendations on specific rifles would be appreciated.  Accuracy is very important as well as reliability and durability.

Thank-you for your comments.

Sincerely,

Steve
Link Posted: 7/6/2003 7:29:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Look at the new DPMS in .308 hard to beat........

[sniper2]      [headbang]
Link Posted: 7/6/2003 7:46:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Why not get one of these?:

[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=122&t=192069&w=myTopicPop[/url]
Link Posted: 7/6/2003 8:47:12 PM EDT
[#3]
Springfield Armory M1A.

Magazines are expensive, but so is the rifle - $1100.00 -on-up!


There's nothing else quite like the warm feel of iron, and walnut.

Link Posted: 7/6/2003 9:03:48 PM EDT
[#4]
Depends on the money you want to spend.  I have 4 fals and 1 mia bush rifle.  If cash is no obtion, go for tha ar10 w/ plenty of mags. Or go Preban G91 H&K, Pre ban MIA/M14, pre FAL prefereble an Argentine. And then there is the Mega expensive GALIL or VALMENT.  Stay away from the SAiga's.  The need nodifications to worrk good w/ hicaps.  Avepre is an ok alternative, and Kreb's custom can convert to galil mags.  Look at the Dsa fals.  An incredible weapon(Fal Type)  Fals have the cheapest priced mags on the market.  The most reliable would probable be the Galil.  I am just going on the reviews I read from experts.  my MIA never jammed.  The Fals were finicky, but I had to adjust the gas tubes.  They work great. I had two saigas, and the would only feed 6 or 7 rounds out of the 8rd mags.  I traded them off to a guy that knew how to convert them to take the galil mags.  If you got the cash, get three- MIa/m14-fn fal H7K 91.
If I needed a .308 in a pinch-Springfield Mia.  That is just my opinion. The MIA mags are the most durable that I handled.
Link Posted: 7/6/2003 10:27:43 PM EDT
[#5]
The AR15.com ArmaLite AR-10 rifle or carbine - "jtw2" has posted the link.  Unbelievable pricing from ArmaLite and fine accuracy as both rifle and carbine come with stainless steel triple lapped match barrels.
Link Posted: 7/6/2003 10:37:43 PM EDT
[#6]
M1A baby [:)]
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 4:24:00 AM EDT
[#7]
if you want to stay cheap (thats a relative term) id say build a FAL.  im building one now and the whole thing wont cost over $500.  FAL's are quite accurate and very durable.  the thing about adjusting the gas regulator is good. it means reliable function with a variety of loads. and mags are dirt cheap.  not to mention it has great hitorical value (not to say that the rest of the options dont though).
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 4:57:55 AM EDT
[#8]
M1A
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 5:15:44 AM EDT
[#9]
those sa58's are really nice I guess they are just an american made FAL but they look like well built rifles, plus the choice of camo, the most accurate semi auto you'll probobly get is gonna be an M1A
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 5:24:29 AM EDT
[#10]
Get both....M1A and FAL.

M1A for accuracy and FAL for ergonomic and easy maintenance.
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 5:34:20 AM EDT
[#11]
FAL.....no question. But spend the money. Spend the same amount of cash on a FAL that you would on the M1A and you got one helluva rifle.
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 5:35:51 AM EDT
[#12]

DSA FAL
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 5:56:53 AM EDT
[#13]
M1A.
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 6:00:50 AM EDT
[#14]
M1A...Accept [b]NO[/b] substitute!

I'd also recommend thinkig about a custom build using all USGI parts on a SA, Inc. receiver. Not that much more expensive than one "off of the rack" from Springfield Armory, Inc.

Top M1A 'smiths I'd recommend:

Ted Brown of "The Shooters Den" in Oregon.(No website)

Ron Smith of Smith Enterprise. [url]www.smithenterprise.com[/url]

Clint McKee of Fulton Armory. [url]www.fultonarmory.com[/url]


I've got a M1A built by Ted Brown, who used to be an Armorer in the Marine Corps. It's all USGI parts on a SA, Inc. receiver. It shoots 2 - 4 MOA using different kinds of mil-surp ball ammo, but with Federal Gold Medal 168gr. Match it shoots sub-MOA. And there are NO National Match parts anywhere on the rifle...
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 6:57:02 AM EDT
[#15]
I've gotta say [url=http://www.hunt101.com/img/050912-big.jpg]M1A[/url] as well.

My "daily shooter" is a standard Springfield M1A and I've also got a SuperMatch and a Polytech M14S.  The SuperMatch has all USGI parts and my standard has mostly new SA parts.  No problems with either (or the Polytech for that matter).
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 2:20:17 PM EDT
[#16]
I asked the same question a while ago.

After hours, days, weeks of research I decided to go with a DSA SA 58.

I highly recomend them.
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 2:44:02 PM EDT
[#17]
I would go for an HK, only because I have been wanting one for a while now. They will most likly only go up in value to boot.
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 2:50:34 PM EDT
[#18]
ALF...

oops...I mean FAL.  Go FAL.
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 3:03:00 PM EDT
[#19]
You need to state a price range, and what do you consider "accurate" and "reliable". It's hard to beat a DSA SA58 or STG58 as an overall kick ass rifle, but if you want a tack driver, then either a high end AR10 or M1A might be preferrable. Personally, I want one of each!
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 3:14:17 PM EDT
[#20]
Get one of the Polytech or Norinco M14's in the $500-700 range. If you don't feel that it is "good enough" then, by all means, rebuild it with all USGI parts and retain the excellent forged receiver.
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 3:23:19 PM EDT
[#21]
Scope or no scope?  The fal is a better platform for optics. It will take more to get a good solid mount on an m1a

Brad
Link Posted: 7/7/2003 3:26:57 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Get one of the Polytech or Norinco M14's in the $500-700 range. If you don't feel that it is "good enough" then, by all means, rebuild it with all USGI parts and retain the excellent forged receiver.
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Ding ding ding... we have a winner...  This route, or have a good FAL built.  DSA = over-priced.
Link Posted: 7/8/2003 8:27:06 AM EDT
[#23]
I've been kicken around the idea of getting an FAL any  good web sites you guys have for them????[sniper]
Link Posted: 7/8/2003 8:37:25 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
I've been kicken around the idea of getting an FAL any  good web sites you guys have for them????[sniper]
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[url]www.falfiles.com[/url]
Link Posted: 7/14/2003 2:58:07 PM EDT
[#25]
I am real fond of my preban HK-91.  It shoots MOA and magazines are $5.00 each now.  

Parts for it are cheap too, if they are ever needed. I have never had anything break on mine in 20 years of shooting international milsurp ammo in it, including a can of Indian ammo!  

I have read that Argentine surplus ammo has a "tar" sealant around the bullet/case  that can gum up an HK, but I have never had that problem.
Link Posted: 7/14/2003 3:23:02 PM EDT
[#26]
The Ar-10, M1A, and FAL are all great guns.  The M1A uses a cast receiver, but that should not prevent you from purchasing that excellent rifle.  If you are ona bit of a budget, you could get a CETME, which is also a blast.  VEPRs are also very good, but heavy.
Link Posted: 7/14/2003 3:31:25 PM EDT
[#27]
Win Mdl 100
Link Posted: 7/14/2003 4:06:28 PM EDT
[#28]
Favorite:
[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/049393.JPG[/img]

Close runner up:
[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/049398.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 7/14/2003 7:43:14 PM EDT
[#29]
I recently picked up a very nice Eagle Arms AR10B, flat-top w/20" stainless bbl and installed an RRA match trigger.  With 3 mag kits from Armalite and a Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 mil-dot I have about $1200 in the whole thing and it shoots 1"x1 1/2" at 100yds all day.

I have owned two M1A's including a supermatch, a CETME, an HK 91 and shot a FAL quite a bit.  The AR-10 is my favorite so far, well worth a look.  M1A's are heavy,clunky and wood, if thats what you like, get one.
Link Posted: 7/14/2003 9:03:42 PM EDT
[#30]
Winchester Model 100, lol, that's hilarious. A side note, the gunsmith where I work installed the last NEW transfer bar in existance (according to Numrich) for the Model 100 about 5 years ago. I actually had 2 at one time. Had to use both to make 1 gun that works, but it is a nice rifle.
Link Posted: 7/15/2003 1:52:31 PM EDT
[#31]
Ever consider a M-1 Garand even though its a 30.06
Link Posted: 7/15/2003 3:14:38 PM EDT
[#32]
M60 Machine Gu...I mean M1A [:)]
Link Posted: 7/15/2003 3:24:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Easy, M1A
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