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Posted: 5/8/2018 6:44:57 PM EDT
So I had a Co worker offer me $750 for my savage msr recon and I'm seriously considering it. I'm in the process of building an spr type rifle but still want to keep a recce as I think they are the best all around ar configuration.

Going to take the 2.5-10x on my areo Precision Recce and use it on my spr build and look for a lpv for the Aero

So what's the best scope I could get in the $500-600 range 1-4/6/8x I was leaning towards steiner p4xi
Link Posted: 5/8/2018 8:40:52 PM EDT
P4Xi is best in that price range.
Link Posted: 5/8/2018 8:42:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GreenGoose:
P4Xi is best in that price range.
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I agree. My P4xi is a great optic.
Link Posted: 5/8/2018 10:40:45 PM EDT
Kinda what I thought... I didn't really want to sell this rifle but he threw 750 at me and I only paid 800 new and in this climate 750 is a good deal(for me) so I am taking it to him tomorrow to check out in person he only saw my pictures. If he says deal Ill be ordering me a P4XI this week
Link Posted: 5/8/2018 10:48:47 PM EDT
If you want the extra magnification and would be okay with a MRAD reticle, and 5 more oz on the Steiner. An EE Viper PST G2 1-6x
Link Posted: 5/8/2018 11:21:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alaskanforfreedom:
If you want the extra magnification and would be okay with a MRAD reticle, and 5 more oz on the Steiner. An EE Viper PST G2 1-6x
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How do the two compare optically
Link Posted: 5/9/2018 10:40:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Evile:

How do the two compare optically
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They're similar I believe a bit of an edge goes to the Vortex.
Link Posted: 5/9/2018 11:11:45 AM EDT
Depends on your budget. If it's under $600 or so, the Steiner P4xi and several Vortex offerings will work great (as mentioned). If you have more wiggle room, the Leupold MK6 1-6x or new Nightforce 1-8x would be ideal, as you get a little more out of the top end. Bottom line, a RECCE rifle isn't a DMR/sniper rifle. If you're engaging a target at 600m and you don't hit it on the first shot, you keep shooting until you do. It's filling the gap between carbine and DMR while still being able to do what a carbine does up close. That's my take anyhow, and 1-4x up to 1-8x optics fit for this purpose.
Link Posted: 5/9/2018 12:35:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Depends on your budget. If it's under $600 or so, the Steiner P4xi and several Vortex offerings will work great (as mentioned). If you have more wiggle room, the Leupold MK6 1-6x or new Nightforce 1-8x would be ideal, as you get a little more out of the top end. Bottom line, a RECCE rifle isn't a DMR/sniper rifle. If you're engaging a target at 600m and you don't hit it on the first shot, you keep shooting until you do. It's filling the gap between carbine and DMR while still being able to do what a carbine does up close. That's my take anyhow, and 1-4x up to 1-8x optics fit for this purpose.
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Ive always seen the Recce as two paths. One is a close range that can shoot out to distance and be precise with 1-4//6/8 optics. The other being long range but can work in close. 2.5-10s with or with out red dots mounted.

I have the long range covered with my SPR build so I want to do something I can shoot 25 yard out to 500. The Mark 6 is way out of my price range. So I want to keep around 5-600 and use the rest to buy ammo. I started looking ad the Primary arms 1-6 FFP with the raptor reticle last night. I know its not top of the line but Ive used their 1-6s before and they are nice
Link Posted: 5/9/2018 1:43:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Evile:

Ive always seen the Recce as two paths. One is a close range that can shoot out to distance and be precise with 1-4//6/8 optics. The other being long range but can work in close. 2.5-10s with or with out red dots mounted.

I have the long range covered with my SPR build so I want to do something I can shoot 25 yard out to 500. The Mark 6 is way out of my price range. So I want to keep around 5-600 and use the rest to buy ammo. I started looking ad the Primary arms 1-6 FFP with the raptor reticle last night. I know its not top of the line but Ive used their 1-6s before and they are nice
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With that budget I'd get the Steiner. It doesn't have the higher top end magnification, but the illumination is true daylight bright and the glass quality is very high. There's a thread on them here if you want to read more...

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Steiner-P4Xi-1-4-/18-698196/
Link Posted: 5/10/2018 8:31:06 PM EDT
I'll throw another vote for the P4Xi. I have one that I bought used here on the EE, and I love it! You can easily find them on the EE for around $400-450 in good condition.
Link Posted: 5/11/2018 12:02:16 AM EDT
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My Recce build uses a mid-powered Leupold VX-R 3-9x40mm Patrol (mil/mil with motion-activated Firedot TMR reticle).

It is matched with 45 degree offset Deltapoint Pro.

The combo is lighter than many 1-6x scopes.

Link Posted: 5/12/2018 2:08:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alaskanforfreedom:
If you want the extra magnification and would be okay with a MRAD reticle, and 5 more oz on the Steiner. An EE Viper PST G2 1-6x
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Ev
Er used a Steiner but I love my Viper. Unbeatable warranty also.
Link Posted: 5/12/2018 6:48:59 PM EDT
I don't think you can really go wrong either with a 3.5-4X ACOG, a 1-6/8 variable, or go whole hog
with a premium 2-10 with offset T1/RMR. Plus all work beautifully with any clip-on.
I don't have a LPV but used a Razor II 1-6 with the PVS-22 and the results were outstanding which is an understatement.
Under NV use it gave up absolutely nothing to the TA11 or USO 1.8-10X37 at similar magnification.



Link Posted: 5/12/2018 8:56:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By edwin907:
I don't think you can really go wrong either with a 3.5-4X ACOG, a 1-6/8 variable, or go whole hog
with a premium 2-10 with offset T1/RMR. Plus all work beautifully with any clip-on.
I don't have a LPV but used a Razor II 1-6 with the PVS-22 and the results were outstanding which is an understatement.
Under NV use it gave up absolutely nothing to the TA11 or USO 1.8-10X37 at similar magnification.

https://i.imgur.com/7VOV9Yv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/inmKWOO.jpg
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Ill go be poor somewhere else
Link Posted: 5/12/2018 9:00:04 PM EDT
Also interested. I’ve got a trijicon accupower with segmented green circle but I kinda rather have a red dot style variable. Anyone else run one of these and the px4i or pst gen 21-6?

Thanks & keep your powder dry.
Link Posted: 5/12/2018 11:54:28 PM EDT
I've used the 1-4 Accupower, the P4xi, and the PST G2 1-6x. Glass is pretty damn good on the PST better than the P4xi IMO. If you don't mind the weight, and the MIL reticle get the Vortex.
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