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Posted: 10/16/2003 2:32:26 AM EDT
This is shown on the updated RRA web site. Has anyone tried one??
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 2:55:43 AM EDT
[img]http://www.rockriverarms.com/images/extplat.gif[/img] Neat item, nope never used one, but I bet someone will soon. Mike
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 7:37:13 AM EDT
That's a pretty neat idea: a poor man's SIRS. Gives you the flexibility to mount optics anywhere you want. Too bad it has to use the rail on the gas block, thus no free floating action. Ghost
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 8:11:17 AM EDT
Saw one on a 9mm upper on ebay last night. I didn't know it was a Rock River. The upper looked cool but didnt come with all accessories needed such as blot magblock or hammer. Too bad or my bid would have been in.
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 8:52:09 PM EDT
I have one on my mid-length 9mm, and really like it. Both front and rear sight in one package (can't lose it...too big) along with the full length rail between them. Very strongly built, the "bridge" clears any handguard that I have tried/measured, and and the sights use standard components and front tool. Sluggo
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 9:20:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ghost-Shooter: Too bad it has to use the rail on the gas block, thus no free floating action. Ghost
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But if you're using standard handguards, it acts as a reinforcement to the barrel. Free floating a non-scoped or dot-sighted rifle/carbine is just like whipped cream on a hot dog anyway.
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 4:16:18 AM EDT
This would work on my Bushy flattop with the 3 rail gas block, right?
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 4:22:47 AM EDT
Provided that it's dimensions aren't designed to be used with a specific manufacturers gas block. If the heigth of railed gas blocks is standard, then it should. To be safe, I would call RRA and double check.
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 8:17:57 AM EDT
Hmm........looks like it would mount most optics way too high for a good cheeck weld, making it a chin weld, forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has. Looks real heavy too!
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 9:50:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 223Rem: forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has.
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Living in NJ must preclude you from actually seeing a co-witnessed Aimpoint Comp-M mounted on their tactical handle. I would post a pic of mine if I only knew how.
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 6:14:23 AM EDT
IIRC, this is an Aimpoint with the "X" mount, on a RRA Tactical handle and [b]it does co-witness[/b] [img]http://www.sableco.net/store/images/AimpointKillflash.jpg[/img] Mike
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 6:25:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 223Rem: Hmm........looks like it would mount most optics way too high for a good cheeck weld, making it a chin weld, forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has.
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Exactly what I was thinking! The [b]only[/b] optic I have seen that works on that rail is the Aimpoint in the super-low factory ring (as in mr_wilson's pic). Granted, the long adapter shown is a step up because it lets you put the aimpoint farther out, where a reflex sight should be, but I still don't think there are any other sights designed to work with a rail that high.
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 8:01:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/18/2003 8:08:22 AM EDT by 223Rem]
Originally Posted By fizassist:
Originally Posted By 223Rem: Hmm........looks like it would mount most optics way too high for a good cheeck weld, making it a chin weld, forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has.
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Exactly what I was thinking! The [b]only[/b] optic I have seen that works on that rail is the Aimpoint in the super-low factory ring (as in mr_wilson's pic). Granted, the long adapter shown is a step up because it lets you put the aimpoint farther out, where a reflex sight should be, but I still don't think there are any other sights designed to work with a rail that high.
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Thank you, fizassist. As I said "it would mount most optics" not "all optics" way too high. So as for the potential of the RRA Rail and Tac Handle, their potential is very limited. Only one optical/mount configuration will work correctly to co-witness these platforms. That IMHO, makes the component an unnecessary expense, adds weight to the rifle and denies the robust features AR15 platform. I feel the money ($275.00 on RRA website) would be better spent on a flip-up BUIS system or even a semi fixed rear sight such as the DPMS or LMT (ie. chopped carry handle styles)
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 8:04:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By headpulper:
Originally Posted By 223Rem: forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has.
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Living in NJ must preclude you from actually seeing a co-witnessed Aimpoint Comp-M mounted on their tactical handle. I would post a pic of mine if I only knew how.
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Living in New Jersey does not preclude my from this. But please go ahead and try to mount any other optic/mount on that rail, have a good cheeck weld and still co-witness. Cause it's not going to happen.
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 8:33:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 223Rem: I feel the money ($275.00 on RRA website) would be better spent on a flip-up BUIS system or even a semi fixed rear sight such as the DPMS or LMT (ie. chopped carry handle styles)
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Or an ARMS #38 EX-MOD (which includes a BUIS) for a $225. Looking at the RRA catalog, there are several mounts which use this awful rail height: [img]http://rockriverarms.com/images/scout.gif[/img] [img]http://rockriverarms.com/images/extplat.gif[/img] [img]http://rockriverarms.com/images/mnts3.gif[/img] [img]http://rockriverarms.com/images/chndls.gif[/img] That seems crazy for a rail height specifically tailored to 1 optic. So many other optics and mounts are geared for the 1/2" ARMS riser height, including most aimpoint mounts.
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 1:48:49 PM EDT
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