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Posted: 10/16/2003 2:55:43 AM EDT
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[img]http://www.rockriverarms.com/images/extplat.gif[/img]
Neat item, nope never used one, but I bet someone will soon. Mike |
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Posted: 10/16/2003 7:37:13 AM EDT
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That's a pretty neat idea: a poor man's SIRS. Gives you the flexibility to mount optics anywhere you want. Too bad it has to use the rail on the gas block, thus no free floating action.
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Posted: 10/16/2003 8:11:17 AM EDT
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Saw one on a 9mm upper on ebay last night. I didn't know it was a Rock River. The upper looked cool but didnt come with all accessories needed such as blot magblock or hammer. Too bad or my bid would have been in.
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Posted: 10/16/2003 8:52:09 PM EDT
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I have one on my mid-length 9mm, and really like it. Both front and rear sight in one package (can't lose it...too big) along with the full length rail between them. Very strongly built, the "bridge" clears any handguard that I have tried/measured, and and the sights use standard components and front tool.
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Posted: 10/16/2003 9:20:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: Too bad it has to use the rail on the gas block, thus no free floating action. Ghost But if you're using standard handguards, it acts as a reinforcement to the barrel. Free floating a non-scoped or dot-sighted rifle/carbine is just like whipped cream on a hot dog anyway. |
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Posted: 10/17/2003 4:16:18 AM EDT
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This would work on my Bushy flattop with the 3 rail gas block, right?
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Posted: 10/17/2003 4:22:47 AM EDT
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Provided that it's dimensions aren't designed to be used with a specific manufacturers gas block. If the heigth of railed gas blocks is standard, then it should. To be safe, I would call RRA and double check.
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Posted: 10/17/2003 8:17:57 AM EDT
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Hmm........looks like it would mount most optics way too high for a good cheeck weld, making it a chin weld, forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has. Looks real heavy too!
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Posted: 10/17/2003 9:50:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has. Living in NJ must preclude you from actually seeing a co-witnessed Aimpoint Comp-M mounted on their tactical handle. I would post a pic of mine if I only knew how. |
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Posted: 10/18/2003 6:14:23 AM EDT
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IIRC, this is an Aimpoint with the "X" mount, on a RRA Tactical handle and [b]it does co-witness[/b]
[img]http://www.sableco.net/store/images/AimpointKillflash.jpg[/img] Mike |
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Posted: 10/18/2003 6:25:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: Hmm........looks like it would mount most optics way too high for a good cheeck weld, making it a chin weld, forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has. Exactly what I was thinking! The [b]only[/b] optic I have seen that works on that rail is the Aimpoint in the super-low factory ring (as in mr_wilson's pic). Granted, the long adapter shown is a step up because it lets you put the aimpoint farther out, where a reflex sight should be, but I still don't think there are any other sights designed to work with a rail that high. |
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Posted: 10/18/2003 8:01:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Hmm........looks like it would mount most optics way too high for a good cheeck weld, making it a chin weld, forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has. Exactly what I was thinking! The [b]only[/b] optic I have seen that works on that rail is the Aimpoint in the super-low factory ring (as in mr_wilson's pic). Granted, the long adapter shown is a step up because it lets you put the aimpoint farther out, where a reflex sight should be, but I still don't think there are any other sights designed to work with a rail that high. Thank you, fizassist. As I said "it would mount most optics" not "all optics" way too high. So as for the potential of the RRA Rail and Tac Handle, their potential is very limited. Only one optical/mount configuration will work correctly to co-witness these platforms. That IMHO, makes the component an unnecessary expense, adds weight to the rifle and denies the robust features AR15 platform. I feel the money ($275.00 on RRA website) would be better spent on a flip-up BUIS system or even a semi fixed rear sight such as the DPMS or LMT (ie. chopped carry handle styles) |
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Posted: 10/18/2003 8:04:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: forget any kind of co-witnessing, as seen with the problems RRA tactical handle has. Living in NJ must preclude you from actually seeing a co-witnessed Aimpoint Comp-M mounted on their tactical handle. I would post a pic of mine if I only knew how. Living in New Jersey does not preclude my from this. But please go ahead and try to mount any other optic/mount on that rail, have a good cheeck weld and still co-witness. Cause it's not going to happen. |
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Posted: 10/18/2003 8:33:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: I feel the money ($275.00 on RRA website) would be better spent on a flip-up BUIS system or even a semi fixed rear sight such as the DPMS or LMT (ie. chopped carry handle styles) Or an ARMS #38 EX-MOD (which includes a BUIS) for a $225. Looking at the RRA catalog, there are several mounts which use this awful rail height: [img]http://rockriverarms.com/images/scout.gif[/img] [img]http://rockriverarms.com/images/extplat.gif[/img] [img]http://rockriverarms.com/images/mnts3.gif[/img] [img]http://rockriverarms.com/images/chndls.gif[/img] That seems crazy for a rail height specifically tailored to 1 optic. So many other optics and mounts are geared for the 1/2" ARMS riser height, including most aimpoint mounts. |
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Posted: 10/18/2003 1:48:49 PM EDT
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ARMS rails (and other rails like the GG&G Fire Rail) are .460" in height. Nearly every ring, mount, and optic setup that doesn't require direct mounting to a flattop or flattop-height rail is designed for a .460" rail.
Obviously, the RRA rail is much higher. The AimPoint will work in the cheapie aluminum ring mount, and most conventional scopes will work with standard low or medium rings, but the cheek weld will be higher than optimal. -Troy |
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