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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:51:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2005 10:49:40 PM EDT by AR15KittyKat]

My weapons:
7.62x51/.308Win: Springfield M1a Scout Squad w/ Trijicon Tri-Power, Stock: Sage Navy Seal's gray ChopMod EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle)

5.56: RRA M4gery w/ SIR & Aimpoint ML2

JohnnyP's weapon: Spanking brand new RRA Tactical Entry

Ammo Used: Q3131A, SA 308 surplus (very nice for being surplus), Hornady 150gr SST, Win. 150gr Ballistic Silvertip

I've been looking for a .308 semi-auto rifle big brother to accompany my M4gery, and after some research and recommedations from ARFCOMers from M1/M14 forum, I chose the M1A over the DPMS 308 AP4, AR10 and Fal; It also helped after I saw Fulton's Mark14 EBR clone in a gun mag, I wanted the same setup.

I have never touched or shot an M1A, so I was going on blind research and recommedations, after all, it's a proven battle rifle design. Took home a new SA M1A Scout Squad, and tore it down to install to the Sage EBR chassis, cleaned it, and greased all metal-metal moving parts; I was very surprised how robust the op-rod, piston, gas tube, and the design of the M1A is.

The Sage EBR chassis stock was designed by the request of the US Navy, specifically for the Navy Seals, seems very well designed, instant bedding. robust, lots of rails, adjustable butt for length of pull, and & height adjustable cheek piece for different optics setup.

"Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.
We have the capability to make the world's most RAILED M1A.
Better than it was before.
Better . . . stronger . . . Faster, and HEAVIER" nnnnnnnnnnnnn......
Just a snipppet from the 6 Million Dollar Man series from the mid 70's for all the young folks.

Now, the M1A EBR is ready for the range test w/ the M4gery.

I & JohnnyP, new member to ARFcom, 10 years handgun shooter, 1st AR15, wanted to hunt hogs :), better get his practice in. We decided to take half day off from the boring programming jobs and hit the range. 100deg Texas heat, we had the whole range to ourselves, nice. JP put 200rds thru his Entry, 100% flawless. JP's AR has a richer, thicker blacker finish than my AR, and mine was bought
two years ago, RRA must have upgraded their finish.

JP practicing double taps for chargin hogs, note 2 shells in the air.

M4gery w/ new MGI Rate Reducer Buffer: Weight: 9+ lbs w/ all acc. & 30rds loaded.
I've shot thousands rounds w/ my M4gery w/ a 9mm buffer, my M4gery barely has any recoil, but after I put in the new MGI RR Buffer, recoil was practically non-existence. Standing double & triple taps was very fast.

IMHO, the MGI buffer is worth the money if you consider quicker follow up shots a neccesity. I put about 400rds of Q3131A downrange w/ 100% reliability, as always. Sweet & fun.
JP had a chance to shoot my carbine, JP-"The recoil is so much softer than mine", AR15KK-"It's the combination of MGI buffer, SIRs weight, and fake A2 muzzle brake"

Me, double taps, 2 shells in the air, no muzzle rise

Another double tap.

M1A EBR: Weight: 11.5+ lbs w/ all acc. & 20rds loaded.
With an 18" barrel, a couple of inches longer than the M4gery, it's pretty maneuverable. After barrel breakin, & zerod in the Trijicon, I put about 200rds of South African Surplus, and 30rds of Winchester 150gr Silver BallisticTip (one of my favorite hunting ammo), and 10rds of Hornady's SST down the pipe and function was 100% flawless. 90% of shells ejected at 1oclock, a couple at 3-4oclock, all with authority.

Standing double & triple taps sight recovery was pretty fast, though not as fast as the M4gery, that's a given. Recoil was very soft for a .308Win, I assumed due to an effective muzzle brake, piston operated, and weight of the Sage stock. I have I been hiding under a rock not to know how well the M1A shoots.

Bigger shell in mid air, note barely a muzzle rise.

I can shoot this .308 all day w/o discomfort. Accuracy was about 2" @ 100yards w / non-zooming Trijicon tri-power. The feeling of twenty .308 rounds at your disposal w/ little recoil, is just awesome. The Sage EBR stock is already in use by some of our bravest in Iraq & Afghanistan and NavySeals. Shall we say this EBR shall be tested on my next hog hunt. America's big bore battle rifle enhanced with 21st technology and so much rails you could hang your Christmas tree ornaments on

Traditionalists may just stick w/ a wood or synthetic stock, but if you like uber tactical rifles like me, well... Sage's EBR chassis stock may be the ticket for your M1A/M14.
Though both rifles are heavier than their stock form, the extra weight sure helped reduced recoil, and w/ CQB 3point slings, these rifles were very comfortable being lugged around for extended period. For home defense & room clearing, I will still grab the M4gery, and the M1A is for field work.

America's big bore battle & assault rifles at its finest.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 9:57:22 PM EDT
nice review and pictures !!!!
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 10:15:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By exocet:
nice review and pictures !!!!


Very well done.

Link Posted: 8/18/2005 10:18:10 PM EDT


I hate you.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 10:19:55 PM EDT
droooooling over that m1a
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 10:50:26 PM EDT
you must be tiny, cause those guns look way to big for you.

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 3:06:50 AM EDT
Those two evil black (and silver) rifles are the evilest looking rifles I have ever seen.

I want them!

Thanks for the pics, the pics are awesome.

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 3:33:18 AM EDT
Thanks for pics,love the rifles, would like a .308 of my own someday.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:51:52 AM EDT
wheeee!!!!! hi guys...yeah thats me in the blue shirt....look at that ripped forearm!! hahaaaah jk
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 12:46:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PerryF:
Thanks for pics,love the rifles, would like a .308 of my own someday.

You're welcome gents, can't go wrong w/ 150gr hog thumpers
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 1:40:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/19/2005 1:41:04 PM EDT by jollyroger]
Nice rifles! That M1A looks like it should shoot lasers

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 9:38:44 PM EDT
That M1A is friggin sweet. Now I want one. Damn you
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 9:53:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
... Now I want one. Damn you

Sooo Sorry

I've already posted the EBR distributor in M1A forum, but I'll do it here also.

I know of only 3 dealers for the SAGE EBR, they are:
ClydeArmory, FultonArmory, and SecurityArms.

ClydeArmory: is the ONLY bulk distributor of NavySeal gray EBR, they also have black.
FultonArmory: only black EBRs
SecurityArms: Has to special order NavySeal gray, stock only black.

ClydeArmory link

Link Posted: 8/25/2005 10:41:33 PM EDT
latest upgrade on my gun....

Samson Rail purchased by an AR15.com member

Link Posted: 8/26/2005 3:25:16 PM EDT
Nice. Leaving the M14 stock in the white gives the M14 that futuristic look that's extremely appealing to me.
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 7:21:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
Nice. Leaving the M14 stock in the white gives the M14 that futuristic look that's extremely appealing to me.

Thanks, but it's anodized in a NavySeal gray finish, so it's really not bare aluminum white like
it looks

JohnnyP, better come get your new Troy's Aimpoint mount, AimpointML2 and TangoDown VG before I send them EE
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 4:07:43 PM EDT
ok ok ok...troi oi i'm trying to feed my family first and i'll head over
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 5:43:52 PM EDT
welcome to the sickness johnny.

AR15Kitty - Looking forward to the next hog hunt thread.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 6:04:39 PM EDT
where are you guys at in TX? it looks like you guys are at the CollinCountyGunRange.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:28:42 PM EDT
Good lookin rifles....get your elbows down.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 7:44:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 9:05:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By donovan007007:
where are you guys at in TX? it looks like you guys are at the CollinCountyGunRange.

They are.
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 9:15:31 PM EDT
kewl we need to get together cause I only live a few miles away
Link Posted: 8/28/2005 10:43:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/28/2005 10:49:35 PM EDT by AR15KittyKat]
Thanks BravoCo.

Originally Posted By Monty0124:
Good lookin rifles....get your elbows down.

Thanks, and I am assuming your remark was to JP, yes I noticed his right elbow were a tad high, c'mon gents, the fella is new to AR, he's been hitting the range 4 times in 1 week to get pratice in

5 more days till the hunt, and the wait is killing me. BTW, you do always have gorgeous ladies in your shoot. I think ARFcomers need more pics...

Yes we were at CC gun range, and when there's no other shooters, you can move on to the actual range and practice your tactical skills, walking & dumping ammo on target, no range nazis here
PM me if you would like to hit the range together, maybe try my EBR
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 1:59:55 PM EDT
my rifle is pretty much complete thanks to charles.

Link Posted: 8/29/2005 2:09:47 PM EDT
So how much did the M14 stock cost??

Both are very nice rifles

Link Posted: 8/29/2005 2:41:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/29/2005 2:42:59 PM EDT by AR15KittyKat]

Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
So how much did the M14 stock cost??

Both are very nice rifles


Sage Seal gray EBR's only distributor is PoliceGuns.com (ClydesArmory) and it's $679

Fulton will charge an arm & leg, you might find black EBRs on the net from $700-1000 ?
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 3:16:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 5:44:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By new-arguy:
We just built a M1A SOCOM with one of those stocks for a guy. Topped it with an ARMS scope mount, ARMS #35 base with ultra low rings and a Leupold MR/T M2. Pretty hefty gun, but man, it sure was sweet.
... That is not my rifle.

Very nice SOCOM EBR, type of rifle
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 10:40:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jollyroger:
Nice rifles! That M1A looks like it should shoot lasers

Hah. I was just thinking the M1A must be the legendary "Phase Plasma Rifle in a 40 Watt Range."
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