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Posted: 10/15/2003 1:35:30 AM EDT
Is the Winchester Q3131A 5.56 ammo which is made in Israel marked with the NATO cross symbol? Thanks, Richard
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 4:46:27 AM EDT
[#1]
I checked the headstamp on a round of Q3131A Lot TK42. It reads:

W.C.C 02

The periods between the WCC are centered, not at the bottom of the line. No NATO cross on ammo or packageing.

Larry
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 9:00:26 AM EDT
[#2]
Q3131A is a commercial load and therefore carries no NATO headstamp.
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 9:03:34 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Q3131A is a commercial load and therefore carries no NATO headstamp.
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Actually, it carries no headstamp because NATO doesn't use M193.  (so it doesn't matter if it's commercial or not)

The only reason XM193 has the headstamp is because they use M855 brass.
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 10:10:06 AM EDT
[#4]
I stand corrected... and humbled. [:D]
Link Posted: 10/18/2003 4:58:31 AM EDT
[#5]
Note Winchester produced Q3131 is headstamped WCC, Israeli produced is W.C.C.

The use of NATO marked cases is fairly common, even on M193 Ball produced for US forces.  No reason to change the brass on the assembly lines, the lack of a green tip tells US troops they have M193 Ball not M855 Ball.

Some Federal 115gr 9mm is produced in NATO marked cases, but it's not NATO spec either as M882 Ball has a 124gr bullet.

-- Chuck
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