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Posted: 10/7/2007 11:27:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 11:28:47 AM EST by SSN_Doc]
I've read enough posts from third parties about how Vortex Flash supressors are doomed to eventually blossom out, any time someone posts a question about them.

Can anyone provide me pictures of such an occurance and what the circumstances were?

Is this just more interweb BS?

I would appreciate photo's, approximate round count and age of the offending FS. Also, include if there was any previous damage, such as inward bent tines because of bumps, drops, etc.

Edited because it sounded like I was being a demanding AH.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 11:30:01 AM EST
All 3 of mine are doin just fine, but then again they are all the newest G6A2 model.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 11:45:52 AM EST
I think they had a problem with proper hardening on the early ones. The latest models don't blossom.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 11:47:25 AM EST
i dont have one on my rifle, nor have i seen this happen. my only guess would be the superheated gases and pressure forcing them out, but iwould think this would tend to happen on more fully automatic rifles.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 11:49:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 11:50:19 AM EST by SSN_Doc]

Originally Posted By brian923:
i dont have one on my rifle, nor have i seen this happen. my only guess would be the superheated gases and pressure forcing them out, but iwould think this would tend to happen on more fully automatic rifles.


Since I shoot semi-auto, and it is on the end of the muzzle and exposed to the coolest air, I don't see that being a problem.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 11:54:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 11:56:39 AM EST by Hokie]
...lol....I deleted my post, I can't contribute anything positive to this thread other than "Your vortex will be fine"

Link Posted: 10/7/2007 11:57:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 11:58:16 AM EST by BUIS]
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Link Posted: 10/7/2007 12:01:50 PM EST
i have 3 and never had a problem, never heard of one that "bloomed" these flash suppressors are second to none
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 10:32:23 PM EST
Newarguy had one and posted pics. IM him.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:38:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2007 8:38:44 AM EST by SSN_Doc]

Originally Posted By DevL:
Newarguy had one and posted pics. IM him.


Thanks, I'll ask him next time I see him. Neal is good people so I know he would provide good info.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:39:41 AM EST
I have two Vortex's and I have zero problems.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:24:52 AM EST
It was the earlier style vortex. And even then it was only a few that were not properly heat treated. I had one that all four tines/prongs mushroomed out. I posted pics here. That was with semi only fire from a BM 14.5 M4 barrel.

At the time I wasnt the only one. Others posted pics of theirs as well.

I may be able to find the pics, but dont count on them. It was over 5 years ago.



I run the current style vortex with no problems.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 9:41:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By FRO:
It was the earlier style vortex. And even then it was only a few that were not properly heat treated. I had one that all four tines/prongs mushroomed out. I posted pics here. That was with semi only fire from a BM 14.5 M4 barrel.

At the time I wasnt the only one. Others posted pics of theirs as well.

I may be able to find the pics, but dont count on them. It was over 5 years ago.



I run the current style vortex with no problems.


Agreed, this is an OLD problem. You will be fine.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 10:09:10 AM EST
I have about 15,000 on an 8" M16. No Blossom yet...

Pinkerton OUT!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 2:37:18 PM EST
I had one blossom out. But it was several years ago. I think Kurt (of KKF) may have pics of it on his site somewhere. He was the one who removed it and premamently installed one of his A3 extended hiders.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 2:43:53 PM EST
got three that have many thousands of rounds through them, all of the newer type, and no blossoming.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 3:05:50 PM EST
I have zero vortex FHs, and 0 problems with them.



I want one though.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 3:38:54 PM EST
It's pretty much what I thought.

I have one and have no fear of it ever blossoming out.

I just kind of got tired of having someone drop the "wait 'til it blossoms" line in every freaking Vortex thread I have read, when I have seen no proof of any such problems recently.

I was also pretty sure there was some reliable info out there about old ones having the problem, and the problem being addressed.

Thanks for all of the input.

Link Posted: 10/8/2007 3:48:34 PM EST
"PING!"
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 5:47:40 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 5:58:11 PM EST
What is the time frame for old/new Vortex?

Put mine on in 1999, and is GTG. 16" heavy barrel.

Link Posted: 10/8/2007 6:02:59 PM EST
Would putting a rubber band around the tines stop the pinging?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 6:06:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By BUIS:
Would putting a rubber band around the tines stop the pinging?


Why bother? I never even notice it.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 6:06:10 PM EST
All my AR's (even my AR10) have them, none of them are newer than '00 (Except the AR10) and I have abused (bumpofdeath) a couple of them.


Never had one of them do anything except suppress all flash from my muzzle. I have shot them way out in the dark, and in a pitch black room. Proper ammo and no flash at all.



Link Posted: 10/8/2007 6:14:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2007 6:18:02 PM EST by innocent_bystander]
As I stated in the other thread mine blossomed with about 500 rounds through it. Sent it to Smith and it was replaced with a G6. I had purchased mine from Brownells about 3 years ago.

I also had a very early model blossom. That had to be 10 years ago or more.

I would estimate I have seen five or six blossom over the years. I have not seen or heard of a G6 blossoming.

My friend Mike had one severely blossom to the point one of the tines broke off. I didn't let mine get to that point.

Still wouldn't trust one enough to pin it on.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 6:44:24 PM EST
I bulged and cracked an after market flash suppresor on a M38 Swedish Mauser in the mid 90s from bullet strike or was it the pressure? Then again it was a cheaply poorly made junker. Got a free replacment from Brad at the next gunshow. I thinks too that Vortex is high quality and show have no problems
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:29:53 PM EST
My vortex G6 is great! solid too. Its like having a tuning fork on the end
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 11:16:33 AM EST
There is a common snap ring sizer that will fit the groove around the tines. I forget what it is and am not sure why you would want to.
Link Posted: 10/9/2007 11:54:19 AM EST
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