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Posted: 5/2/2015 1:10:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/3/2015 2:15:18 PM EDT by jntmjt1]
I had a few minutes, so I lined up some AR15s (numerically by model number) for a picture...

- prototype
- early 01
- late 01
- 02
- 03
- 04
- 05
- 06
- 07
- 08
- 09 (XM177E1)
- 29 (XM177E2)

I'll try to get another picture of the "all others" category (M16K, 621, Delta HBAR, M231 stuff like that), before long.  
UPDATE:  Here is a link to some other versions: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/674394_And_pictures_of_the_oddballs____continued_from_yesterday_s_601_through_XM177E2_pics___.html

Enjoy the pics,
John Thomas













Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:25:01 PM EDT
Those are fantastic John.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:25:49 PM EDT
That Purple 609 is a trip!
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:32:15 PM EDT
That collection would make any museum proud!..........and me envious
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:42:21 PM EDT
WOW!  That's an awesome collection!  How long did it take to accumulate all those be-u-ti-ful weapons?
Thanks for sharing those with us.  I've never seen the whole family picture before.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 1:44:47 PM EDT
I'm liking that 02 style. With the stubby stock
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 2:04:43 PM EDT
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I think that Type C Stock is one of my old ones. Would need a closeup picture to be 100% sure though.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 2:09:23 PM EDT
Pure Awesomeness!!!
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 2:13:48 PM EDT
Damn that is cool.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 2:16:22 PM EDT
Very nice.



I really need to stop looking at 601s.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 2:21:40 PM EDT
Awesome +++
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 2:41:39 PM EDT
Wow! Someday maybe... In my dreams...
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 2:43:38 PM EDT
Very impressive retro collection.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 2:49:05 PM EDT
Echoing all the others, Wow!

That photo op was just destined to be
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 4:44:01 PM EDT
Wait - are those pics from Reed Knight's museum? VERY nice, John. Very nice.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 5:48:38 PM EDT
Wow. Thanks for sharing John.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 7:17:37 PM EDT
Jt I love you man but on some level those pics make me hate you too!

Nice going lol
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 7:45:09 PM EDT
Magnificience!  Pure and utter magnificience!
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 8:36:57 PM EDT
It's....beautiful
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 8:50:35 PM EDT
I'm pretty sure that's the first 606 I've ever seen.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 9:03:37 PM EDT
WOW
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 10:10:48 PM EDT
sir, you are an artist.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 11:35:47 PM EDT
wow
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 11:40:38 PM EDT
Very impressive!!!
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 8:54:32 AM EDT
Where's that super worn 601 ?
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:08:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:16:58 AM EDT
What's next???
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:34:00 AM EDT
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Sort of.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 11:46:29 AM EDT
You made my day!!!
 
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 1:00:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/3/2015 1:02:56 PM EDT by Hal143]
I bet there are gonna be at least a few more new retro heads now after that article.  John, I'm looking for a job.  Your gonna need a staff now.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/03/it-came-from-arfcom-a-gaggle-of-retro-ar-builds/

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Nobody has yet done an original CAR15 carbine
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 1:54:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hal143:
I bet there are gonna be at least a few more new retro heads now after that article.  John, I'm looking for a job.  Your gonna need a staff now.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/03/it-came-from-arfcom-a-gaggle-of-retro-ar-builds/



Nobody has yet done an original CAR15 carbine
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Originally Posted By Hal143:
I bet there are gonna be at least a few more new retro heads now after that article.  John, I'm looking for a job.  Your gonna need a staff now.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/03/it-came-from-arfcom-a-gaggle-of-retro-ar-builds/

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Nobody has yet done an original CAR15 carbine


Someone made a thread a while ago about starting one.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 2:40:06 PM EDT
You are truly an artist, JT, and it's really impressive to see so many of these all together.  Sure gives an idea of what you've been up to these past few years!

I'm curious how you store these "at home."  If you don't mind the question, do you keep the collection on display somehow?  Seems it would be a shame to hide a family like that!

Noticed, though, that your "early 601" needs a Type A stock...and then, you've got the early and late 601s, but no XM16E1 to go with the A1?  
 I guess the build list just never ends!
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 10:44:34 PM EDT
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I'm curious how you store these "at home."  If you don't mind the question, do you keep the collection on display somehow?  Seems it would be a shame to hide a family like that!
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OlGunner, to answer your question... unfortunately, my collection isn't displayed.  Everything is in a triple-alarmed and double-locked vault area that not many get to access.  Really, 99 out of 100 people that come here wouldn't know or care about all the different AR15 models, anyway.

John Thomas

Link Posted: 5/5/2015 6:39:44 AM EDT
Great collection JT! Thanks for sharing with the hive.
Link Posted: 5/6/2015 10:46:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/6/2015 10:49:36 PM EDT by TANGOCHASER]
Disregard my post. I see the picture is oldest to newest but the list is newest to oldest.
Link Posted: 5/10/2015 1:23:50 AM EDT
I'm actually shocked that neither of your 01s have the correct profile stocks on them...
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Your really ARE a FUNNY Guy!
Link Posted: 5/10/2015 9:16:18 AM EDT
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I'm actually shocked that neither of your 01s have the correct profile stocks on them...
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Both 601s have authentic & original type B stocks on them... which is correct for the 601 (in general).  The brown one should be a type A for the very, very early 601.  In my other recent photo post (linked in my original post), you will find my other 601 with an original Type A (the correct stock for the very early 601).  I won't strip the paint from that type A, though.  So, it is what it is.

John Thomas


Link Posted: 5/10/2015 9:53:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jntmjt1:


Both 601s have authentic & original type B stocks on them... which is correct for the 601 (in general).  The brown one should be a type A for the very, very early 601.  In my other recent photo post (linked in my original post), you will find my other 601 with an original Type A (the correct stock for the very early 601).  I won't strip the paint from that type A, though.  So, it is what it is.

John Thomas


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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
I'm actually shocked that neither of your 01s have the correct profile stocks on them...


Both 601s have authentic & original type B stocks on them... which is correct for the 601 (in general).  The brown one should be a type A for the very, very early 601.  In my other recent photo post (linked in my original post), you will find my other 601 with an original Type A (the correct stock for the very early 601).  I won't strip the paint from that type A, though.  So, it is what it is.

John Thomas




Right those are Type B's, which are essentially the same profile as the Type C Stock but made of Bakelite and not Fiberglass. Probably tough to tell the difference in a picture but The B/C Stock's Profile differs at the bend at the bottom and they are much skinnier at the buffertube entrance. Easy to Spot when they are laid out in front of you, then they make a late style Type C and that just throws a monkey wrench into the whole machine.
Link Posted: 5/10/2015 5:13:12 PM EDT
I R now soo confused...

When did they change the swivels from the 360 rotating to the fixed-position types?
Link Posted: 5/10/2015 6:34:54 PM EDT
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I R now soo confused...

When did they change the swivels from the 360 rotating to the fixed-position types?
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Did you have a bad childhood ?
Link Posted: 5/10/2015 10:53:35 PM EDT
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I R now soo confused...

When did they change the swivels from the 360 rotating to the fixed-position types?
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Very early.  I have the 649th rifle produced and the sling swivel does not rotate.  I've viewed god photos of rifles in the 200 range, and don't believe they were swivel, either.
FWIW, I've never personally seen the rotating variant.
Link Posted: 5/11/2015 12:03:41 AM EDT
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Did you have a bad childhood ?
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
I R now soo confused...

When did they change the swivels from the 360 rotating to the fixed-position types?


Did you have a bad childhood ?


No, it's just that ...as I understood it - the only actual non-green-painted bake-lite stocks were the early type-As. I wasn't aware there were any un-painted brown bake-lite type-Bs, Just makes me sad DiveCop when holes start appear in long-held beliefs.

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No, it's just that ...as I understood it - the only actual non-green-painted bake-lite stocks were the early type-As. I wasn't aware there were any un-painted brown bake-lite type-Bs, Just makes me sad DiveCop when holes start appear in long-held beliefs.

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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
I R now soo confused...

When did they change the swivels from the 360 rotating to the fixed-position types?


Did you have a bad childhood ?


No, it's just that ...as I understood it - the only actual non-green-painted bake-lite stocks were the early type-As. I wasn't aware there were any un-painted brown bake-lite type-Bs, Just makes me sad DiveCop when holes start appear in long-held beliefs.



To clarify...You were correct.  The "first 100" Model 01s (which had Type A stocks) had unpainted brown furniture.  After that, all stocks were painted green or black.
All Type B's came from the factory painted.

John's "early 601" has a stripped Type B stock to simulate the very early brown furniture, but as he said, to be 'correct," it should be a Type A.
He could have used the Type A that he now has on his "battle worn 601" and simply stripped it the rest of the way, but that would have left him short a battle-worn Type A! (One just never has enough early furniture on hand!)

I think that Type B caught some of our attention simply because it is a compromise on that particular build, and compromise is something very rare in a John Thomas build!
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