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Posted: 9/22/2009 9:07:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/28/2009 10:57:29 AM EST by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 9/22/2009 9:21:09 AM EST
Donde esta el mount en el website-o?
Link Posted: 9/22/2009 9:34:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2009 9:35:25 AM EST by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 9/22/2009 10:04:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2009 12:10:57 PM EST
looks interesting!
How would you rate this compared to the Burris XTR Mr.Marsh?
Link Posted: 9/22/2009 1:44:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2009 1:52:35 PM EST by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 9/22/2009 3:36:44 PM EST
The poor man's short dot...
Link Posted: 9/22/2009 3:50:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2009 3:50:33 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2009 11:53:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2009 12:07:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/23/2009 12:09:09 PM EST by Aggie_Gunner]
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
One of two new scopes that just arrived. A great choice for your AR

My typical crappy reticle photos but you get the idea. The glass is bright and clear. Like all our products it will exceed you expectations.

Primary Arms 1-4X illuminated scope
■ 24mm objective
■ Illuminated center dot
■ 90'-23' Field of view at 100 yards
■ waterproof
■ Fog resistant
■ 30mm tube
■ Eye relief 3.5"
■ 1/2 MOA windage and elevation adjustments
1.75" long
■ 17oz
■ Multi-coated lens
■ One year exchange warranty
■ Flip caps are included but we screwed up and the logo is partially cover by the front flip cap
■ We have mounts starting at $19.99

only $119.99



[that's what she said] It sure looks bigger than 1.75" long... [/that's what she said]

ETA: It also says the dot is illuminated... where does the battery go?
Link Posted: 9/23/2009 12:17:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aggie_Gunner:

ETA: It also says the dot is illuminated... where does the battery go?

My guess would be that the cap in the picture, the one with the coin slot by the adjustment knobs, is where the battery goes.
Probably a CR2032, but may be a CR2016.
Link Posted: 9/23/2009 12:46:32 PM EST
Do you have a .mil discount?
Link Posted: 9/23/2009 2:58:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2009 7:26:05 AM EST
Just ordered one with the Primary Arms mount (thanks for ll of your assistance Marshall!). I have been using a Primary Arms M4 for a short while and I'm most impressed with it! The M4 is my first experience with a red dot type sight (have always used iron sights) and I'm quickly discovering why they're so widely used. The PA 1-4X will be my forst scope as well. After checking out several scopes locally yesterday I cam to the conclusion that 4X would be more than adequate for my casual paper punching at 200 yards. I'm looking forward to getting it mounted and zeroed.
Link Posted: 9/25/2009 3:04:53 AM EST
I got my Primary Arms 1-4x scope the other day and this thing is just extremely nice. At 1x this scope is surprisingly good for CQB fast target acquisition and I think that is due in part to the reticle, which just as Marshall has said it is "very fast to the target." Pretty much everything that Marshall has said about this scope is right on point, and you will definitely not be disappointed (If you are disappointed, I think your expectations might be a bit ridiculous). IMHO, if you are looking for a really good hardcore 1-4x scope under $500 its a no brainer, the Primary Arms 1-4x scope will get the job done and do it well. Oohh, I forgot to mention that the thing looks AWESOME!!!
Link Posted: 9/25/2009 3:17:47 AM EST
what kind of battery?

how many brightness settings?

Link Posted: 9/25/2009 4:01:13 AM EST
They take CR2032 and have 11 settings. I just picked mine up yesterday and I'm very impressed with the quality. I actually got to see it compared to the burris and Trijicon TR24 and have to say that for the price you absolutely can't go wrong with this scope. The nice thing about the illumination is that it pops whenever you have a target that is dark and the black reticle is super crisp on anything that is light. I plan on going shooting with it tomorrow and I'll have a range report as well. I'd have to say buy em before they are out of stock because once more people get them in hand and the word gets around you probably won't have much time
Link Posted: 9/25/2009 4:03:06 AM EST
Pearland, TX parking lot of W. Broadway @ Business Center
Link Posted: 9/25/2009 4:29:08 AM EST
What is the overall length ?
Link Posted: 9/25/2009 4:43:09 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/25/2009 5:11:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/25/2009 5:27:31 PM EST by Mike_Franco]
Originally Posted By MARSH1:
Originally Posted By us-kiwi:
What is the overall length ?


Marshall, I think you meant 11.75"

And here are some quick pics of my setup:

Link Posted: 9/25/2009 5:59:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2009 9:06:40 AM EST by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 9/26/2009 8:39:13 AM EST
Just got back from the range w/ my 1-4. Everything was flawless very quick and easy to zero, held zero and was a blast. Thanks again.
Link Posted: 9/26/2009 3:41:21 PM EST

Just when I was satisfied with the previous optics that you provided to me(M4 + 5x magnifier), you bring out two more that would be great additions to my collection! Before I think about purchasing one of these new optics, any word about when you might have accessories for the M4 optics that you sell????????

Link Posted: 9/26/2009 4:07:49 PM EST
How is this scope different from a DMS-1, besides the reticle?
Link Posted: 9/26/2009 4:13:22 PM EST
It costs $100 less and doesnt have a lifetime warranty. Just one year.

Seemed like an excellent deal to me. Can't wait for mine to get here.
Link Posted: 9/26/2009 9:00:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2009 4:33:59 AM EST
Ive already ordered mine from you but how large are the componets of the reticle? I was looking for something like the dot size is say 1 moa, the thin part is 1/2 moa and the thick part is 4 moa on 1x or 4x at 100 yds. If i get mine before you have a chance to look at it ill try to make some measurments and post them.
Link Posted: 9/27/2009 5:12:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2009 1:11:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2009 1:13:14 PM EST by Deaj]
I recieved my PA 1-4x scope and AR mount yesterday. Thanks again Marshall for the excellent service and fast shipping! It's installed and reaady to be zero'd next visit to the range. This is my first scope so I can't draw any comparisons but I am pretty impressed with the glass and the build quality so far. The mount seems solid as well. I'm expecting good things given my positive experience with the PA M4 red dot sight so far. I really like the reticle! Range report to follow soon.
Link Posted: 9/28/2009 10:58:31 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/28/2009 12:24:38 PM EST
Did I read this correctly? The dot size is 1MOA?

Link Posted: 9/28/2009 12:41:27 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/28/2009 1:29:30 PM EST
If your refering to my post that may not be correct. I was just giving an example. Once mine arrives ill try to get it mounted and to the range this weekend and get some measurments. If all goes well i plan to make measurments at 1,2,3 and 4x.

If any of you have any requests let me know and ill try to accomidate them. Please just pm me though so it doesnt clutter this thread.

Link Posted: 9/28/2009 1:53:27 PM EST
Marshall, do you know or think this scope will hold up on a FAL?
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 3:00:51 AM EST
Anyone got any pics of this with the dot lit up in twilight?
Marsh, How are these tested for recoil? Are they ok for a LR 308?


Link Posted: 9/29/2009 3:36:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 4:39:13 AM EST
Will it handle more than a .308?


How much recoil will it handle?
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 5:48:15 AM EST
Anyone have any nighttime/daytime Illuminated pictures? Either way I will be ordering at least one of these soon.


Link Posted: 9/29/2009 6:00:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2009 6:58:25 AM EST by MARSH1]
Link Posted: 9/29/2009 7:55:54 AM EST
Maybe ill try one on my 450 Marlin. Ill see how it does with my 420grain hard cast loaded about 1900fps.

I need more money!!!!!

Link Posted: 9/29/2009 4:19:10 PM EST
email sent
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 1:07:30 PM EST
For that price its worth a look.
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 1:18:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2009 4:26:06 PM EST by jaqufrost]
I just got mine in. I'm pretty happy with it. You can't see the red dot if your in bright light, but it shows up when its dark, so it should be their when you need it.

ETA: Thanks for the new hat with the order. My wife has already claimed it, lol.
Link Posted: 9/30/2009 1:36:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2009 11:42:46 AM EST
Will this allow for a cowitness with a front site with the integral mount? Or would a different mount be needed and if so which one?

Link Posted: 10/3/2009 5:24:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By Nulltime:
Will this allow for a cowitness with a front site with the integral mount? Or would a different mount be needed and if so which one?

though I'm not 100% I believe that since this optic is not a true 1x you will not be able to cowitness with it.

Link Posted: 10/3/2009 7:27:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2009 11:15:55 AM EST
I received my 1-4 today. Initial impressions say that this is an amazingly high quality scope for the money!

There is some heft to the scope, clearly it's built from some solid components, compared to the similar priced products you'd find on the market and even some with higher magnification in a similar price range, this scope feels heavy. Not heavy in a bad way, but heavy in a "this thing won't break" kind of way.

The optics are very clear, the reticle was executed very well. The illumination is not super bright but I have a fresh battery I'm going to test in it to see if there is an improvement. Many of the manufactures in China purchase very large stocks of the batteries and use the oldest first so a fresh battery might improve the lighting.

The zoom adjustment range is pretty large, so you can vary you level of zoom easily. The adjustment for the rear eye piece is nicely formed, allowing easy adjustment without having to grasp the entire eye peiece and turn.

Clicks feel solid on the turrents.

I'll post more once I have some rounds down range.

Link Posted: 10/6/2009 4:52:13 PM EST
any illuminated reticle pictures?

i am having a hard time deciding between the DMS-1 and this. i know that the reticle, cost, and warrenty are different, but have another question.

i have heard that to adjust the zoom on the DMS, the entire rear portion rotates; different then a normal Nikon, Leupold, etc with a rotating ring. Can anyone validate this and is the PA 1-4 the same way?
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