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Posted: 3/30/2006 8:03:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 12:00:19 PM EST by madmanblake]
I've looked at some stuff on the vortex - it says not to torque past 10lbs, and that it will tighten while firing. What about permanent attachment? Torgue it to 10lbs, then pin/weld? If it were a longer barrel I would drill it and fire it until it was tight then weld, but not with a 14.5.

What to do?
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 9:05:11 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 12:00:05 PM EST
I did read everything I could find on the boards. Mine did not come with instructions - but those posted here said torque to 5-10lbs. No washers, no alignment. It will tighten with shooting.

So, if anyone has permanently attached one, how did you do it?
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 12:02:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Boom:
Read everything you can here on the boards. If you still have ?s and do not feel you can do it correctly send it to a good gun smith. I recommend Adco.

This is not something you want to screw up.



+1 for adco, they did a fine job on my vortex
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 12:27:06 PM EST
if you permanently attatch it then it wont move anywhere wether tightning or loosening
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 2:35:27 PM EST
Check with PK Firearms they have a vortex ready for pin/weld for $50.00
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 2:36:39 PM EST
silver solder paste & a mapp torch
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 2:38:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 2:39:00 PM EST by madmanblake]

Originally Posted By TequilaReseva1800:
Check with PK Firearms they have a vortex ready for pin/weld for $50.00



Already got my vortex for $20.

Even if I have Adco pin/weld it I'm still under $50, not including postage.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 9:42:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 9:40:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/9/2006 12:57:11 PM EST by madmanblake]
I think its real - It looks like everyone else's - minus the grooves. On one of the wrench flats there is a stamped "V".

Also, is it normal to have an approx. 1/16" gap between the vortex and the shoulder of the barrel?
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 2:17:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 2:40:15 PM EST
I got it advertised as an old one.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 11:04:44 AM EST
Can anyone recommend a gunsmith in the DFW area, who permamnently attach one for me on my RRA?
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 11:13:31 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 12:56:13 PM EST
I emailed Ron Smith and have yet to hear... here are pics.





Link Posted: 4/9/2006 3:27:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/9/2006 3:27:45 PM EST by AR15barrels]
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 2:18:56 PM EST
should the G5 have the groove and the skirt? I did try to scratch it with a file...no dice. No damage to the file, either. And it does ring nicely when hit.

Are the fakes good copies or they just look similar? And I'm still waiting to hear from R.Smith...
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:38:17 PM EST
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 6:26:46 PM EST
The guy I got them from said they were OLD. I am hesitant to permanently attach until I hear from the final authority a.k.a. Ron. but thanks for all of the info!
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:18:43 PM EST
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 11:06:03 PM EST
My G5 has a small "s" stamped on it in the area between the flats and the tines on 1 side. Maybe for Smith Enterprises?
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 3:26:47 AM EST
Well, mine definitely looks like the G5, and the G4 has the V stamp.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 3:40:34 AM EST
Madman,

If you have a choice between having it done locally or sending it to Randal at AR-15Barrels.com you should send it to Randal.

He has done barrel work for me in the past and it is first rate and reasonably priced. In my experience when you want a specialized piece of work done you're ALWAYS better off sending it to someone who specializes in that work. Even better when you have a forum like this with many members who will attest to the good work Randal does.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 2:51:02 AM EST
No offense Randall, but I sent it to Adco. Had early recommendations, and I like to keep it in the Midwest.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 7:49:21 AM EST
Not to hijack but I am looking to do the same thing. Once it is attatched, can you change gasblocks, FSB's?
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:02:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By steve0:
Not to hijack but I am looking to do the same thing. Once it is attatched, can you change gasblocks, FSB's?



Once it's PERMANENTLY attached - NO. Not unless you go to a screw style two-piece gasblock.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:09:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:17:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By AR15barrels:

Originally Posted By DOUGHERTY03:
Once it's PERMANENTLY attached - NO. Not unless you go to a screw style two-piece gasblock.



I remove permanent muzzle devices when necessary, but the muzzle device is generally a complete loss.
In other words, choose the handguard, front sight and muzzle device you want BEFORE you have it welded on.



Or buy a 16" barrel.
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