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Posted: 4/10/2012 1:26:14 PM EDT
Dooms Day Preppers or new laws?? All AR parts are BO??
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 1:32:15 PM EDT
tax return season, and maybe a little fear about the election



Obama has that effect.....never forget 08-09
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 1:40:00 PM EDT
I think its more then that. I been building ARs for a while never as much BO even obscure companys out of bolts, lower parts set, barrels and even off brand uppers and lowers out. There is more to story the Tax returns. Usually when this happens its followed by big price changes.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 1:49:35 PM EDT
I think more people then myself believe there will be riots in every major city after elections. I think the series Dooms Day Preppers woke a lot of people up! I was getting ready to start a new build & was shocked the lack of build parts to be found. Lets say its beyond bare! Since Homeland Security had contracted for millions of ammo rounds you have to believe there is more to this story.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 1:53:39 PM EDT
I sure hope not.....


Lot's of people getting into the AR game. I've never seen so many showing up at the range. I'm not sure if it's over fear of total economic collapse, ban fear, or just because they're fun. I know I added 3 AR's to the safe this year. It just happened that I was intro'd to them and hooked by them. My friends have followed suit. I have 4 friends that have built/bought AR's since they shot mine.

I'm hoping that it's just a trend. I know gun sales are up a ton. I'm hoping it's just because people are enjoying shooting. With any luck the builders will up their capacity.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 1:57:19 PM EDT
Barrels are pissing me off right now....can't find them to save my @ss!
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 2:01:03 PM EDT
There is a guy that upgrades ARs at the local gun show.
He replaces triggers, tunes the gas system removes the A2 and replaces it with a pic gas block, adds Magpul stocks, grips etc etc etc

He can not get parts.

He usually orders about $10,000.00 worth from Magpul but can not get anything. Bigger builders are buying everything in advance.
He said he may stop doing gun shows because there are no parts for him to offer.

Like ammo, this has started at the distributor level and those of us paying attention jumped in fast to get ahead of the stampeding herd that will grow as we near the election

Wulfmann
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 2:14:10 PM EDT
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office is getting an "indefinite delivery" of an "indefinite quantity" of .40 caliber ammunition from defense contractor ATK.

U.S. agents will receive a maximum of 450 million rounds over five years, according to a press release on the deal.

The high performance HST bullets are designed for law enforcement and ATK says they offer "optimum penetration for terminal performance."

This refers to the the bullet's hollow-point tip that passes through barriers and expands for a bigger impact without the rest of the bullet getting warped out of shape: "this bullet holds its jacket in the toughest conditions."

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-28/news/31247765_1_atk-rounds-bullet#ixzz1rg70q623

That is more then enough to start a war. They must be expecting something!!
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 2:19:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Snafu-Ken:
I think more people then myself believe there will be riots in every major city after elections. I think the series Dooms Day Preppers woke a lot of people up! I was getting ready to start a new build & was shocked the lack of build parts to be found. Lets say its beyond bare! Since Homeland Security had contracted for millions of ammo rounds you have to believe there is more to this story.


You really believe that there will be riots in every major city after the election? That sir is funny....
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 2:24:19 PM EDT
Thanks to the good paying tax paying citizens of this country. I d like to have some of these HPs .40s.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 2:26:58 PM EDT
Sellers market.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 2:53:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2012 2:53:33 PM EDT by JW2]
Originally Posted By Snafu-Ken:
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office is getting an "indefinite delivery" of an "indefinite quantity" of .40 caliber ammunition from defense contractor ATK.

U.S. agents will receive a maximum of 450 million rounds over five years, according to a press release on the deal.

The high performance HST bullets are designed for law enforcement and ATK says they offer "optimum penetration for terminal performance."

This refers to the the bullet's hollow-point tip that passes through barriers and expands for a bigger impact without the rest of the bullet getting warped out of shape: "this bullet holds its jacket in the toughest conditions."

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-28/news/31247765_1_atk-rounds-bullet#ixzz1rg70q623

That is more then enough to start a war. They must be expecting something!!


I hope they arent planning on starting a war with 40 cal pistols
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:00:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JW2:
Originally Posted By Snafu-Ken:
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office is getting an "indefinite delivery" of an "indefinite quantity" of .40 caliber ammunition from defense contractor ATK.

U.S. agents will receive a maximum of 450 million rounds over five years, according to a press release on the deal.

The high performance HST bullets are designed for law enforcement and ATK says they offer "optimum penetration for terminal performance."

This refers to the the bullet's hollow-point tip that passes through barriers and expands for a bigger impact without the rest of the bullet getting warped out of shape: "this bullet holds its jacket in the toughest conditions."

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-28/news/31247765_1_atk-rounds-bullet#ixzz1rg70q623

That is more then enough to start a war. They must be expecting something!!


I hope they arent planning on starting a war with 40 cal pistols

Depends on who they are fighting the war with.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:23:12 PM EDT
PSA is flush with everything but barrels.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:23:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2012 3:23:39 PM EDT by TacticalConcepts]
Guys you realilze that this translates to about 450 rds per employee/year of DHS right?

Now that takes into account that there are 200,000 employees, not all are necessarily armed. However if you consider new agents/officers, requalifications, add on training, etc etc...that isn't much in the long run.

Mark
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:24:27 PM EDT
If martial law is declared they know ammo will dry up fast. They know they will have to supply most police depts with ammo. Most carried side arm is 40 cal. In riots it would also be used (40 cal hollow points) man stoppers. Lets say they know alert levels will be up. A light should be going off.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:27:43 PM EDT
5.56 is already gone

I couldn't find 193 by the case anywhere....
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:29:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Snafu-Ken:
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office is getting an "indefinite delivery" of an "indefinite quantity" of .40 caliber ammunition from defense contractor ATK.

U.S. agents will receive a maximum of 450 million rounds over five years, according to a press release on the deal.

The high performance HST bullets are designed for law enforcement and ATK says they offer "optimum penetration for terminal performance."

This refers to the the bullet's hollow-point tip that passes through barriers and expands for a bigger impact without the rest of the bullet getting warped out of shape: "this bullet holds its jacket in the toughest conditions."

Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-28/news/31247765_1_atk-rounds-bullet#ixzz1rg70q623

That is more then enough to start a war. They must be expecting something!!


You missed my thread.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1291665_Is_something_big_about_to_go_down_.html
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:32:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2012 3:33:28 PM EDT by Screwdriver]
Originally Posted By TacticalConcepts:
Guys you realilze that this translates to about 450 rds per employee/year of DHS right?

Now that takes into account that there are 200,000 employees, not all are necessarily armed. However if you consider new agents/officers, requalifications, add on training, etc etc...that isn't much in the long run.

Mark


That's too logical......Socialist Storm Troopers taking our guns and murdering citizens sounds more likely.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:34:33 PM EDT
bring on the riots give me a reason to justify my hobby besides zombies...

Ammo is a huge thing right now it is almost impossible to find M855 and if you do places want 10-12 bucks a pop.

I went to spikes tactical today and they are 1700 orders behind, lots of complete lowers on the wall but no barrels or uppers to go with them. No LPKs no nothing. Best thing I can suggest is if you are planning a build find a place like ranier arms or aim and if some thing is out of stock put your self on the email me when it is in list
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:34:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By haydendavid380:
5.56 is already gone

I couldn't find 193 by the case anywhere....


Glad I live in liberal Kalifornia.....I can buy 5.56 by the boat load at all my local gun shops......
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 3:40:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2012 3:41:10 PM EDT by MSPRet]
Well I'm glad I saw this thread (I think). I thought it was just me, but it has been very hard to find things you need in the EE lately. Just a short time ago you could check for a few days and find what you needed. It seems things are not as available now as they were just a very short time ago....<><....:)
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 4:11:55 PM EDT
Again?
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 4:12:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Screwdriver:
Originally Posted By haydendavid380:
5.56 is already gone

I couldn't find 193 by the case anywhere....


Glad I live in liberal Kalifornia.....I can buy 5.56 by the boat load at all my local gun shops......


Only because it takes everyone forever to reload with those dang bullet buttons
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 4:15:22 PM EDT
I know as soon as i see some bulk 5.56 avail im gonna scoop it up.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 4:19:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By haydendavid380:
Originally Posted By Screwdriver:
Originally Posted By haydendavid380:
5.56 is already gone

I couldn't find 193 by the case anywhere....


Glad I live in liberal Kalifornia.....I can buy 5.56 by the boat load at all my local gun shops......


Only because it takes everyone forever to reload with those dang bullet buttons


Haha....no shit.
Link Posted: 4/10/2012 4:22:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2012 4:22:38 PM EDT by Zhukov]
I'm really tired of all the complaining about parts availability. This is a technical forum, so please repost these threads in GD.
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