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Posted: 2/15/2006 12:32:23 PM EDT
Just curious if anyone has any experience with them & are they worth the money.
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Oh god. Here's this months oly bashing thread.
Are they worth it? You always get what you pay for. Are they as nice as a KAC, no. Do they work, yes...for the most part. Will it get you hooked and force you to sell off your life insurance to buy more, absolutely. |
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I love mine! always shoots no matter the ammo. accurate as I am, I shot 5 shot groups that could be covered with a quarter.
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Good for plinking, but for the same price you could probablt build something better. I had one for a while and was happy with it's performance, but then I didn't take it to any carbine classes or anything. I only sold it because it wasn't the config I really wanted.
And......enter MarkM...... any second now...... |
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Of the major lower mfg's, I think that I've owned one of each
Oly is a good lower (PCR) 7 on 1 to 10 scale Colt 9 Essential 6 PWA 8 Eagle (preban)8 RRA 8 Tromix 8 Sendra 6 I can't speak on the newer companies (Stag, J&T (DS), Ameetec) as I've not owned any of them. I've also not included the CAV as it's in a class of it's own. Just my .02 |
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I say NO. I bought a brand new OLY lower that would NOT drop most of my mags. I sent it back to OLY and when I got it back I was told there was no problem with the lower and it was within spec. All these mags work fine in my STAG & Bushmaster.
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I have several Olys and all are just as reliable, at least as accurate, and look just as good as the other name brand ARs I have (Stag,LMT,ect...). But, as with any company you could get a lemon!
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Oly has a pretty impressive warranty if you are concerned about having problems. Also Clinton at http://www.carricozarmory.com has some very competative prices on Oly and RR. I am looking at a K8 Target Match, just can't beat the price. For what I save over a RR or Bushy I can put good glass on the rifle. IMHO
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Oly is decent. If it were a difference of $200-300, I would buy an Oly. $50-150, I would just spend a little extra cash and get what I want.
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The Oly mag well is entirely within mil-spec. When I firest got it I had some cheap steel aftermarket mags that would not drop free. But since then all I use is 30rd USGI mags and they all drop free very easily. I just bought a whole bunch of black teflon USGI mags from 44MAG.com and they all drop free and the mags are awesome.
About Oly's now. I went thru the same thing before I decided to buy mine. I asked a lot of questions about them and decided to go ahead and try one even thought everyone told me to go with the bushmaster. I went and bought a Oly M4A3 profile 16" stainless barrel with collapsible stock. I was impressed when I got it and the thing is ACCURATE for not having a match barrel. Stainless or chrome lined it really doesn't matter unless you are in Iraq and stainless barrels are more accurate anyway. Besides the price is right for Oly's and they have great personnel customer service and a great warranty on their all their guns. Their match SUM barrels are some of the most accurate in the AR industry. My next hopeful buy will be a SUM upper or whole new gun for some long range varmit and predator shootin. Reliability is never been an issue so far at all. The fit and finish is great and there is absolutely no play between the recievers. I have never had a malfunction shooting any type of ammo so far (Olympic 5.56, Wolf 55gr, PMC, Winchester 55gr and 45gr, Federal 55gr, Maine Cartridge Company 55gr, some reloaded 55gr off of Gunbroker.com and others) Not one malfunction at all with any part of the gun yet. I have mine topped with a brand new Aimpoint M3 (2moa) with a promag cantiliver mount, YHM railed handguards with rail covers, 3pt tactical sling, Ergo rear grip and promag vertical grip, ARMS A2 BUIS, and a Pentagon X2HA flashlight with a Viking tactical mount and a bunch of black teflon D&H 30rd USGI mags. I just started a LEO job so hopefully I can use this on duty now, otherwise I have to use a Mini-14, heaven forbid!! I use my Oly for primarily varmit (jacks, skunks, prairie dogs) and predator hunting, I have shot a lot of coyotes this year with a cheap T168 scope and now my Aimpoint from 10yds to 300yds. This gun is definetly more accurate than I can be with it and I have shot some 1/2" groups with it a few times at 100yds with the Winchester 45gr Varmit stuff. Now I am releoding some 52gr SMK HPBT for coyotes and stuff and some 77gr SMK HPBT for long distance and self defense stuff. I hope this helps you out, don't be afraid to go with OLY. Atlantic Firearms has some very good prices on Olys also. That is where I bought mine off of. |
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I have had no problems with mine, and I beat the hell out of it. It seems that Oly used to have some issues, but have since been corrected. From what I can put together, the last year or so are great rifles. Before that, I can not personaly vouch for. My oly is my plinker, and eats wolf like there is not tomorrow. It's suprisingly accurate (with the right ammo) and I have NEVER had a FTF, FTE problem with it. I only use USGI teflon mags.
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They are great starter ARs. Or if you want the feel without spending a lot of money.
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After careful thought and reading all your replies, I called up my local gun shop and this weekend I'm ordering this:
www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bcwa3f14m4iz.asp I'm one excited fellow, lemme tell ya!! |
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I cannot get anything on your URL. Check it OK. We all wana know what you decided on> |
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It is the Bushmaster 16in M4 Type Rifle with Izzy Flash Suppressor. Let me see if I can fix his link...
www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/bcwa3f14m4iz.asp There, try that. On another note, to you Oly naysayers, could you please give reasons as to why you dislike them instead of just saying "You get what you pay for" or "NO!" For we AR beginners out there, that doens't really help. |
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With the Bushy you WILL be happier. I had a Oly and I agre its a good starter rifle but its like getting a 125 dirt bike after the first week you ask yourself why didnt I get a 250? You have for a while and then want to upgrade. Let the flaming begin....
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I have two of those. They are very nice weapons but I think you will find that the barrel is really 14 1/2". That's why the suppressor is premanently attached to make it 16" legal. With military spec ammo you are going to have a very loud weapon with a huge muzzle flash. Just want to make you aware of that. With the full 16" and the birdcage you get a little more muzzle velocity with less noise and no fireball. I have two 14 1/2s, one 16" and one 20" Colt. They are all great for their intended purpose. Have fun. |
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GOOD MAN! DANG! I don't get credit for this SAVE! But any save from the OLY mistake is a good thing no matter who gets credit! |
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Oly is not the best out there. I think they are ok for the price. Some parts in the LPK are not blued or coated like my other ARs. The Grip screw and A2 buttstock screw are shiny silver Phillip's head not like the nice coated allenhead you get on my other ARs. They do not offer chrome lined barrels. They use 4140 steeland not 4150 like Colt and Bushmaster. No good in the resale in my experience. The lowers can be out of spec. I have one that is good but I have freds that cant use some mags. I have 6 ARs and have owned one Oly. I sold off all but the lower and I put a Colt LPK in it. I have it under a .50 Beo AA upper only because I like their symbol they put on the lower. |
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I always like to post this classic Oly SYNOPSIS!!
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Thank you, I do appreciate getting some solid facts on Olys. The reason I was looking at them is because the dealer is my friend, and Olys are all he sells. The Plinker Plus model appealed to me because of the price. I guess I will check out the ABCR's and try and find a deal.
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Solid facts are the LAST things you got from this thread. |
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I saw that. Whats with the low price on the Plinker Plus? |
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A1 sights, fixed stock, etc. Just a very simplistic rifle. No frills whatsoever.
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Fom the BM link: "Carbine includes a permanently installed Bushmaster Izzy Flash Suppressor "
Just be aware that if that's what you ordered, your kind of stuck with that Izzy FS, which is not the most desirable one. These are pinned and welded in place. It's possible to remove them, but it typically isn't something that most users want to tackle. |
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Yup......I honestly believe 99% of the bashers have never owned one. I had one for 4 years, never a problem with it, sold it to finance something else ( at a profit , no less )...while I have a Bushmaster now, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Oly. |
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Now you guys are just going and getting me confused. The problem is, I can't do the arfcom thing and buy both, since I don't have the funds necessary to complete such a task with any speed.
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Well, my thoughts on that is.....wait....just because you have enough to buy one at the low end of the spectrum ( price wise)...doesn't mean you should. I know what's it's like to have money burning a hole in your pocket, but instant gratification isn't allways the best course. Take some time to research, save up a couple of hundred more and get something that is EXACTLY what you want. |
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I do have until September to wait, as that is when I turn the big 18. Guess it won't hurt to keep on researching right up until the date I can go pick one up. That's the best advice I have gotten all day
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Other than the lack of staking on a Oly M16 carrier I got...
They are pretty decent. I probably wouldn't use their standard barrels mainly because I am not a fan of chrome moly versus chrome lined(and they us 4140 steel vs 4150 which is mil spec), but the SS ones are very nice. I've used an oly upper and lower, and can't tell the difference between them and the others. I would go so far as to say its about on par as the CMT/Stag civie stuff, with the difference being the barrels on the stag uppers are chrome lined 4140. |
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I am no expert, but I was kind of in your shoes a few years ago. As a matter of fact, if the dealer you are talking about is Dick, then I was definitely in your shoes. Dick was a friend of a friend so I purchased an Oly. Never had any trouble and a year later purchased another Oly. Still no problems. I then found out about this website, did lots of reading and heard all the complaints about Oly. My last two rifles (BRD have Anyway, my two cents... |
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True! We were smart enough to take note of the Junk we saw first hand and ask questions before making a foolish mistake! Buy you go ahead and keep thinking it's a VAST conspiracy. Face it! You're just offering a childish reaction from finding out that you have a weapon that you CAN'T count on to go the distance. Oh Snap! |
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Yep, Dick is the guy I was talking about. His shop is only about a mile away from where i am sitting right now. Thanks for the advice. |
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In addition to theie lifetime warranty they also have this
I thought that was kinda cool. |
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I just bought a Olympic Arms lower to do a build on, as it's darker color matches the LMT upper a bit better than RRA/Bushy.
Anyways, their new forged lowers are sweet, the magazines drop free no problem, and the lower is for the most part just as good as any name brand AR-15 lower. But that's just the lower. I say build a rifle yourself. |
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Thanks I didn't even look at the sights. I didn't think anyone made a new ARs with A1 sights. |
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