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Posted: 12/11/2003 12:25:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/11/2003 12:29:52 PM EDT by Corey]
Does anyone have any experience with either of these offset flashlight mounts?

GG&G:
www.gggaz.com/products/offset_vf_mount.php
$65 through Botach, but you need to add a Picatinny rail so factor in another $10?

Warne:
www.warnescopemounts.com/cart/shopdisplaysubcat.asp?id=4&cat=Tactical
I recently received one and am not crazy about the powder coating.  I'm also unsure of it's strength.  They're $19 through Brownells.

I'd like some feedback on these two mounts.  Does anyone know anything about the construction of these two mounts?  The first I heard of the Warne mount was last week and I ordered one primarly because of the attractive price.  I'm wondering now if I should've just spend the extra money and bought the GG&G mount.

Oh, and FWIW another inexpensive alternative is the Yankee Hill Machine angle mount, which is $13 and will work with an ARMS #22:
secure.valinet.com/~yankeeh/cgi-bin/web_store/web_store.cgi?page=products.html&&cart_id=885157_25045

I have two of the angle mounts and they appear to be very sturdy.  However, I think I like the mounting position of the offset mount better.

EDITED for typos, etc.
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 12:53:35 PM EDT
If you aren't mounting the light to a rail system the Surefire mount, for the front sight, is really good.  What kind of light are you mounting and how do you want it mounted?
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 1:19:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By November_Five:
If you aren't mounting the light to a rail system the Surefire mount, for the front sight, is really good.  What kind of light are you mounting and how do you want it mounted?
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Yeah, I didn't mention my setup.  (Though these are designed to mount to a Picatinny rail and they accept light mounts such as the ARMS #22 used on some SureFire weaponlights.)

I have an RASII and M952.

Thanks,

Corey
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 2:05:04 PM EDT
Why not KAC flashlight mount?  You can find them for about $50.
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 2:51:06 PM EDT
Daniel Defense is developing one, southern has posted pics here and there, looks promising.
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 3:08:14 PM EDT
I ordered the YHM mounts, they will do, but are not as sturdy as the GG&G's. Also, the rail space on the YHM isn't that long and the M95/62 don't have alot to lock onto. The GG&G's have about 1-1/4" of rail, it comes with a 1913 and M# rail.

Mark
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 3:14:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By November_Five:
Why not KAC flashlight mount?  You can find them for about $50.
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Because thats a 1" ring mount, and the Surefire Millenium models mount on picatinny rail by either a double screw mount, or an ARMS throw lever mount.
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 5:21:27 PM EDT
Why not just mount it to the right side rail of RAS?  Just curious.
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 6:58:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mark5pt56:
I ordered the YHM mounts, they will do, but are not as sturdy as the GG&G's. Also, the rail space on the YHM isn't that long and the M95/62 don't have alot to lock onto. The GG&G's have about 1-1/4" of rail, it comes with a 1913 and M# rail.

Mark
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Does the GG&G mount come with a 1913 rail?  That makes the $65 price a bit more palatable.

And yes, I did notice that the YHM mount just [i]barely[/i] allows enough surface area for the ARMS #22 to mount.

Does anyone know anything about the Warne mount?  Or the company in general?  It seems like the build some stout stuff, but to be quite honest the offset rail seems bit on the lightweight side.

Thanks,

Corey
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 8:48:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Corey:
Does anyone have any experience with either of these offset flashlight mounts?

GG&G:
[url]http://www.gggaz.com/products/offset_vf_mount.php[/url]
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as someone else mentioned above, yes, the GG&G mount comes with both 1913 and M3 rails. i have one mounted on an ARMS SIR side rail, not on the bottom one.  it works better (for me) on the SIR than a KAC rail because the offset distance puts the light button a bit far out - i'd prefer less of an offset to put the light closer to the 4:30/7:30 position.  when mounted on the bottom rail of a KAC, it's a bit of a reach for the thumb, which naturally is in a 11/1 o'clock position when extended, not 9 or 3 o'clock when used with a vertical grip.
cheers,
MM
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 4:46:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2003 4:48:45 PM EDT by mark5pt56]
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[url="http://www.hunt101.com/?p=57863&c=500&z=1"][img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/057863.JPG[/img][/url]
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 5:56:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mark5pt56:
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Great pics Mark!  I think I saw them once before and was trying to track them down.

Does anyone have a picture of the GG&G mounted on the 6 o'clock rail with a SureFire?

After playing around with the Warne mount a little more, I'm convinced that it's not on par with the YHM mounts.  The Warne mount exhibited some wear from mounting on the RASII.  The YHM shows no (as in zero) signs of wear.

I don't know how these two parts are made, but the YHM feels like a high quality part with a milspec finish.  The Warne mount feels like low quality aluminum with a crappy powdercoat finish.

In fact, I like where the YHM places the light.  There's enough room to grab the vertical grip (without having your hand hit the light) and yet the SW02 button is exactly where my thumb falls.  I think I have some pics.  I'll try to get them up here soon.

Oh, and I can feel a [i]very slight[/i] movement with the ARMS #22 mounted on just one YHM angle mount.  I purchased a second one and placed it in front of the first mount and it presents a much larger (and more secure) mounting surface.
Link Posted: 12/13/2003 1:52:46 PM EDT
Corey, I will have a pic of the GG&G at the 6 in a week or so. If I forget, please IM/email me as a reminder. It will be on a SIR.

Mark
Link Posted: 12/14/2003 10:08:15 AM EDT
The GGG mount with a Streamlight M3 or M6 light puts the on demand switch right at your thumb.  Just a slight movement of your thumb, without changing your grip at all turns the light on.  I was pleasantly suprised at how well it worked and showed it to a shooting friend.  His words: "Damn, now I have to buy one of those."  I have tried others and I keep coming back to this simple, stable and relatively light weight setup.  Wish I could post a pic.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:03:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mark5pt56:
Corey, I will have a pic of the GG&G at the 6 in a week or so. If I forget, please IM/email me as a reminder. It will be on a SIR.

Mark
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You should've also told me to remind myself.  [:)]

You got pics of that setup yet?

Thanks!

Corey
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 11:19:24 PM EDT
I've got one of the Yankee Hill offset mounts for my Carbine and I think it's great, best $13 bucks I've spent in awhile. I use a G-2 in a Weaver scope ring and it has a 1/4 knurled locking knob so I can install/remove the light as needed. very solid unit. and to be honest, is the correct price an accessory like this should be. I just think $75 for the GG&G mount is outrageous for it's intended purpose.
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