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Posted: 5/24/2017 10:09:34 PM EDT
New dedicated thread dedicated to all AR platformed rifles chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor.

As the inaugural post, I will begin with my brand new PWS MK220 MOD 1-P Chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor.







Gotta a long way to go until I would consider it finished.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:45:06 PM EDT
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I have one of the original DPMS 6.5 Creedmoors with the red lettering on the for end. Still the best Shooting gun I own.

Just cant find any picture.
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 9:12:29 AM EDT
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Just ordered a Wilson Combat Recon Tactical in 6.5 CM and hopefully should have it next week.  Pics is off their website, but the one I ordered.

Link Posted: 5/25/2017 9:34:18 AM EDT
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Just ordered a Wilson Combat Recon Tactical in 6.5 CM and hopefully should have it next week.  Pics is off their website, but the one I ordered.

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt67/Marine24_1911/WC%20Recon%20Tactical%206.5CM_zpsxuoc126a.jpeg
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I bet thats gonna be a sweet shooting rifle.

I just ordered a PRS stock for mine. One piece at a time.
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 9:46:35 AM EDT
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Just ordered a Wilson Combat Recon Tactical in 6.5 CM and hopefully should have it next week.  Pics is off their website, but the one I ordered.

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt67/Marine24_1911/WC%20Recon%20Tactical%206.5CM_zpsxuoc126a.jpeg
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I bought this Recon Tactical from Wilson Combat at the NRA show in Atlanta.




Only been able to get it sighted in so far, but I'm liking it a lot!!  
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 10:00:59 AM EDT
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Here are my two 6.5's.  Both use Aero M5 frames and MI rails.  One is a 24" Criterion barrel and the front one is a 26" Krieger barrel.


Since that photo I've added Radius range finders to each of them.


Link Posted: 5/25/2017 10:04:59 AM EDT
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Here are my two 6.5's.  Both use Aero M5 frames and MI rails.  One is a 24" Criterion barrel and the front one is a 26" Krieger barrel.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170304-132131-158919.jpg

Since that photo I've added Radius range finders to each of them.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170311-174025-163830.jpg
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170311-173948-163831.jpg
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170318-174447-169054.jpg
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Fucking awesome. What groupings are you seeing with them?

Any noticeable change in barrel length?
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 10:15:59 AM EDT
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Fucking awesome. What groupings are you seeing with them?

Any noticeable change in barrel length?
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I've been getting around an inch with factory Hornady.  I need to get some Bergers loaded up and see if I can shrink it a bit.  I need to get out and shoot more often but work/kids/usmc-r keeps me pretty busy.  I haven't been out to B-Tactical in a few months.  One of my buddies went to Mesquite and shot the 600 yards there yesterday, found out that his zero was off center to where he couldn't dial 600 yards on his R700 308.   

I need to find something with more distance.
Link Posted: 5/25/2017 11:43:56 AM EDT
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Here's a link to my old build thread.  The rifle is now tan after being cerekoted and I've got about 1,000 rounds through it.  Shoots well, but it's a heavy pig.

SCW MEGA 6.5 Creedmoor
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 2:02:29 AM EDT
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I bet thats gonna be a sweet shooting rifle.

I just ordered a PRS stock for mine. One piece at a time.
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Good choice.  I waiting on the UBR Gen 2 to hit the street, which has always been a good compromise for me.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 10:54:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2017 11:16:42 AM EDT
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Can we play too?

2-Stamps! SilencerCo Omega and our own experimental 14.1" Carbine length 6.5 Creedmoor.

https://instagram.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/14288075_741891402616354_594679240_n.jpg
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Interesting.  I'm surprised you didn't go with the mid gas system.  That's what I use on my 12.5" 6.8 without issues.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 11:19:28 AM EDT
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Can we play too?

2-Stamps! SilencerCo Omega and our own experimental 14.1" Carbine length 6.5 Creedmoor.

https://instagram.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/14288075_741891402616354_594679240_n.jpg
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How do you like that scope? Is that the 3-18?
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 11:50:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/31/2017 12:02:06 PM EDT
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Are ya'll using the Aero M5 BCG with the smaller firing pin hole?
Link Posted: 6/1/2017 9:38:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/1/2017 9:57:51 AM EDT
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It is a BCG from Aero. But since we have probably had that BCG for almost 2 years now, I'm not exactly sure if it's what you are describing.

-Tony @ BA
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Aero's Nitride and Phosphate BCG's are marketed as "High Pressure" BCG's.  The firing pin is reduced diameter compared to most on the market (AIM/DPMS/Toolcraft).  My Aero Nitride and Phosphate BCG's have a firing pin that measures .070.  JP was the first to market a High Pressure BCG and uses a firing pin diameter of .062(IIRC).  My AIM/Toolcraft BCG's using a firing pin of .075.  With my Creedmoor builds I got primer flow/pierced primers with the Toolcraft BCG and the smaller firing pin channel on the Aero minimized it.


I originally ordered a NIB Aero 308 BCG to replace my Toolcraft.  After receiving it, I found it appears to be a re-badged Toolcraft. I had to send it back and get the Nitride version actually cut by Aero.
Link Posted: 6/2/2017 3:59:49 PM EDT
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JP HP Bolt



Link Posted: 6/2/2017 11:18:31 PM EDT
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Just added the Magpul PRS stock to mine. It is a nice stock, but I am gonna have to drill out a hole on the end of it to fit over the QD mount PWS has on their end plates so the stock will fit flush with the receiver. It works now as it, but It will annoy me having that gap there.
Link Posted: 6/3/2017 10:14:14 AM EDT
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Still Need:
1. Glass - Either Vortex or Nightforce
2. LaRue Mount
3. LaRue MBT
4. Atlas Bipod

Then I am gonna cerakote the whole thing to match the stock.
Link Posted: 6/3/2017 10:23:42 AM EDT
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Here are my two 6.5's.  Both use Aero M5 frames and MI rails.  One is a 24" Criterion barrel and the front one is a 26" Krieger barrel.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170304-132131-158919.jpg

Since that photo I've added Radius range finders to each of them.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170311-174025-163830.jpg
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57761/20170311-173948-163831.jpg
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Link Posted: 6/3/2017 10:24:13 AM EDT
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Which mount are you going to use?

I started with a G mount but then moved to an LT845 and unimount when I decided to add the raptors.
Link Posted: 6/3/2017 10:29:11 AM EDT
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Which mount are you going to use?

I started with a G mount but then moved to an LT845 and unimount when I decided to add the raptors.
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Depends on the scope I choose. I did have my eye on the 845 as well.
Link Posted: 6/5/2017 9:34:09 AM EDT
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Got the WC out to the range and performed well for the first time out shooting Hornady ELD 140gr and Prime 130 gr ammo



Hornady





Prime



Couldn't get settled down on the Prime.
Link Posted: 6/5/2017 10:08:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/5/2017 11:20:49 AM EDT
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had to do some surgery to the PRS stock to fit flush with the PWS proprietary castle nut system they use.

Link Posted: 6/5/2017 8:28:41 PM EDT
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Try some of the Hornady 140g American Gunner.

The BTHP is a winner in my book - I'm at 2k+ rounds for the year and it's all I buy.

Hell on plates from 300-1250y.

While not out of a gas gun - here's what a rpr will do with it.

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Link Posted: 6/5/2017 11:59:56 PM EDT
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had to do some surgery to the PRS stock to fit flush with the PWS proprietary castle nut system they use.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4245/34985315911_d9abc4aac7_z.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4249/35076477966_d513d2ee12_c.jpg
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Nice work! I really need to get a mill.
Link Posted: 6/13/2017 6:32:39 PM EDT
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Can we play too?

2-Stamps! SilencerCo Omega and our own experimental 14.1" Carbine length 6.5 Creedmoor.

https://instagram.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/14288075_741891402616354_594679240_n.jpg
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Huh. Look at that.

You've got me thinking about a 16" Creedmoor build on a Xanthos receiver set. The Berger 130s should be going around 2600fps out of a 16" barrel, which at my alt (900' ASL) remain supersonic past 1100 yards and over 1000 ft/lb energy at 500 yards. That, to me, is compelling, especially in a sub-7lb gas rifle.
Link Posted: 6/13/2017 8:47:45 PM EDT
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New trigger and grip installed today.

Still waiting on Glass and Bipod. Then I am going to cerakote it FDE.
Link Posted: 6/18/2017 1:07:28 PM EDT
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I've got a PSA PA10 bare Gen 1 lower and upper that I need to do something with.  Would 6.5 Creedmoor be a bad choice for this receiver set?

I've got enough .308 rifles covered that I'm considering doing something like the 6.5C but I want to make sure I'm not headed down a path of headache and frustration.

If I'm understanding the 6.5C cartridge correctly, I can purchase a "standard"/large frame AR10 barrel in 6.5C, a 308 BCG from JP Enterprises or some other manufacture who makes a small tip firing pin and reduced aperture bolt face firing pin opening and use standard 308 AR10 PMags to make this come together.  Is that right?

Thanks
Link Posted: 6/18/2017 1:31:03 PM EDT
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I've got a PSA PA10 bare Gen 1 lower and upper that I need to do something with.  Would 6.5 Creedmoor be a bad choice for this receiver set?

I've got enough .308 rifles covered that I'm considering doing something like the 6.5C but I want to make sure I'm not headed down a path of headache and frustration.

If I'm understanding the 6.5C cartridge correctly, I can purchase a "standard"/large frame AR10 barrel in 6.5C, a 308 BCG from JP Enterprises or some other manufacture who makes a small tip firing pin and reduced aperture bolt face firing pin opening and use standard 308 AR10 PMags to make this come together.  Is that right?

Thanks
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Pretty much.
Link Posted: 6/18/2017 2:27:38 PM EDT
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From a curiosity standpoint...will 6.5C fit the "small frame" AR10 receiver sets without feeding issues?
Link Posted: 6/18/2017 3:30:40 PM EDT
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From a curiosity standpoint...will 6.5C fit the "small frame" AR10 receiver sets without feeding issues?
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Savage has their small frame in 6.5 Creedmoor. Rainier barrels makes a 6.5 Creedmoor barrel for the DPMS G2's. I'm still waiting to see if they have pressure issues.
Link Posted: 6/18/2017 9:25:21 PM EDT
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Academy has the Hornady Black 6.5cm ammo for $1 a round fyi.
Link Posted: 6/18/2017 9:48:21 PM EDT
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You bastards...why did I click this thread? Now, I want a 6.5 creedmoor gas gun - my wallet is going to be taking a beating in short order

Great pic's of all the rifles in here
Link Posted: 6/18/2017 10:51:48 PM EDT
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You bastards...why did I click this thread? Now, I want a 6.5 creedmoor gas gun - my wallet is going to be taking a beating in short order

Great pic's of all the rifles in here
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with as affordable as 6.5cm ammo is becoming, there is really no reason NOT to have one.
Link Posted: 6/19/2017 2:11:29 AM EDT
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I'm running a .308 Mega Maten but have been considering rebarreling to 6.5CM.

Which barrel lengths should I be looking at for a healthy mix of portability while retaining velocity?

Rainier has a good looking 22" tube for under $500....
Link Posted: 6/19/2017 9:57:37 AM EDT
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I'm running a .308 Mega Maten but have been considering rebarreling to 6.5CM.

Which barrel lengths should I be looking at for a healthy mix of portability while retaining velocity?

Rainier has a good looking 22" tube for under $500....
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22" seems to be optimal for a gasser 6.5cm

20" is a bit of a compromise for lighter more maneuverability without sacrificing much ballistics.  

There is a 14.5" 6.5cm gasser at the top of this page.
Link Posted: 6/19/2017 7:31:18 PM EDT
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Savage has their small frame in 6.5 Creedmoor. Rainier barrels makes a 6.5 Creedmoor barrel for the DPMS G2's. I'm still waiting to see if they have pressure issues.
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Spoke with them in a live chat, and the guy said that they have had some issues with primer flow and piercing of the primers. He also stated that they were working on a shorter firing pin to help the issues, but would give no eta on that.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:47:12 PM EDT
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Getting started here. I'm going to miss out on an adjustable gas system's benefits, but hoping LMT has their package sorted out. Most likely I'll run an H3 buffer with a stock 308 spring, an play with the spring weight to get the system sorted.

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Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:43:43 PM EDT
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Getting started here. I'm going to miss out on an adjustable gas system's benefits, but hoping LMT has their package sorted out. Most likely I'll run an H3 buffer with a stock 308 spring, an play with the spring weight to get the system sorted.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/85104/IMG-1221-235224.JPG
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I really like that new PRS stock. I think magpul nailed it with the new gens.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:47:04 PM EDT
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I've been getting around an inch with factory Hornady.  I need to get some Bergers loaded up and see if I can shrink it a bit.  I need to get out and shoot more often but work/kids/usmc-r keeps me pretty busy.  I haven't been out to B-Tactical in a few months.  One of my buddies went to Mesquite and shot the 600 yards there yesterday, found out that his zero was off center to where he couldn't dial 600 yards on his R700 308.   

I need to find something with more distance.
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Fucking awesome. What groupings are you seeing with them?

Any noticeable change in barrel length?
I've been getting around an inch with factory Hornady.  I need to get some Bergers loaded up and see if I can shrink it a bit.  I need to get out and shoot more often but work/kids/usmc-r keeps me pretty busy.  I haven't been out to B-Tactical in a few months.  One of my buddies went to Mesquite and shot the 600 yards there yesterday, found out that his zero was off center to where he couldn't dial 600 yards on his R700 308.   

I need to find something with more distance.
Come down to North Dallas, I will take you too my 1200 yd range south of town.  (ETTS)
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 9:55:30 AM EDT
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Come down to North Dallas, I will take you too my 1200 yd range south of town.  (ETTS)
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I may take you up on that sometime.  I've wanted to try their range but IIRC it was cost prohibitive for me
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 9:56:51 AM EDT
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Getting started here. I'm going to miss out on an adjustable gas system's benefits, but hoping LMT has their package sorted out. Most likely I'll run an H3 buffer with a stock 308 spring, an play with the spring weight to get the system sorted.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/85104/IMG-1221-235224.JPG
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I've had good luck with Sprinco Red springs.  Seems to give the extra energy I need to fully rotate the bolt on new builds with tight fitting parts.
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:43:47 AM EDT
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Getting started here. I'm going to miss out on an adjustable gas system's benefits, but hoping LMT has their package sorted out. Most likely I'll run an H3 buffer with a stock 308 spring, an play with the spring weight to get the system sorted.

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You wont run an H3 buffer.  That will DESTROY your receiver, allowing the carrier key to slam into the lower.

That's a rifle stock, rifle extension.  You will run a special AR10 length buffer.

What I do, is take my AR10 length buffer apart, then add in Tungsten weights as needed.  I use the DPMS AR10 spring.  I want the slowest unlocking and bolt velocity possible, so I pretty much run as heavy a buffer that will work.  On my krieger barrel, it ran the 10 ounce buffer no problem, with an SLR adjustable gas block and I still had to turn the block down.







Link Posted: 6/21/2017 11:20:48 AM EDT
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What I meant was the H3 weighted CAR10 buffer. 5.4oz, or similar
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 11:38:48 AM EDT
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What I meant was the H3 weighted CAR10 buffer. 5.4oz, or similar
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If it's using a rifle length receiver extension that will be too short of a buffer.  I also use AR10 rifle buffers with Tungsten weights added.  In my case I only swapped three of the internal weights instead of all five.

Link Posted: 6/21/2017 2:36:08 PM EDT
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Milspec carbine extension from KAC.
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 3:42:31 PM EDT
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Milspec carbine extension from KAC.
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Gotchya. So - the PRS Gen3 does support either a carbine extension, or a rifle extension.

My question would be - why would you "choose" to run a shorter extension, and be forced into a light buffer, when you don't have to?  Only thing I can think of to do that, is to have the ability to flip back and forth to a light adjustable carbine stock without changing the setup.
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 3:48:52 PM EDT
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Gotchya. So - the PRS Gen3 does support either a carbine extension, or a rifle extension.

My question would be - why would you "choose" to run a shorter extension, and be forced into a light buffer, when you don't have to?  Only thing I can think of to do that, is to have the ability to flip back and forth to a light adjustable carbine stock without changing the setup.
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Yep, I'm running a Gen3 PRS and it supports both.  I run the rifle extension so I can fit the heavy buffer.
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