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Posted: 4/24/2004 6:24:45 AM EDT
[#1]
I'd say yes, but living in NJ rules me out as a customer for the silencer at least.
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Posted: 4/24/2004 6:56:21 AM EDT
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Definitely interested. I'm about to drop $2k on Gemtech cans because yours aren't available (and some issues on interoperable mounting).
-z |
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Posted: 4/24/2004 7:42:50 AM EDT
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I know many people have expressed frustration with not be able to purchase OPS Inc. suppresors. Here's your chance to make it happen.
Thanks for posting here, Ron. I saw Ron's post on LightFighter forums and suggested he try here. I figured he'd get a much better response here. Although, we may need to move this to the full-auto board. |
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Posted: 4/24/2004 7:45:28 AM EDT
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Uhm-
Being a "#$%@&* New yawka" I'm out of the loop, but, Make a can in 6.8MM for your 2 ports, like the 1's Wes at MSTN's selling, and those on the PRI guns and watch them fly off the shelf. My .02c /S2 |
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Posted: 4/24/2004 8:34:44 AM EDT
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I would certainly be interested in seeing some independent reviews of your products and performance comparisons to products already available to the civilian market. If your product compares favorably, I would definately consider purchasing.
Thanks for soliciting our input! |
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Posted: 4/24/2004 8:53:31 AM EDT
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Do you have any idea what price ballpark the can would be? I second that a 6.8mm can would be veeeery interesting. Thanks for showing interest in the civilian market. Lots of companies with mil contracts don't, and I think it's great when one does!
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Posted: 4/24/2004 9:24:13 AM EDT
[#7]
Email sent Ron. Thanx.
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Posted: 4/24/2004 9:58:49 AM EDT
[#8]
I would be very interested, but the price would be a deciding factor.
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Posted: 4/24/2004 10:00:00 AM EDT
[#9]
Do you have a link to your website?
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Posted: 4/24/2004 10:14:02 AM EDT
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I'm shooting for a mid July 2004 ready date on silencers.Would love to do comparison test with other brands.Will also be making for ruger mk 2, bolt guns to .50 cal. might try Hk. Have a special 15th model that we would like to see on the ar's. Short, quiet, and extremely durable. Don't know how long they last. Haven't seen one worn out. Longest I've heard of is 90k and still going on m16. 12k on 308. Will do custom fitting when possible.Price? I'm not sure. Depends on if we do direct or go through dealers.Iwould like to find out what sure-fire kac and the others are charging. Any body know?
Sorry that all ran together. I was trying to answer the questions I've received so far. Ron |
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Posted: 4/24/2004 10:31:14 AM EDT
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It will totally depend upon the design/features/price/and customer service. There are already companies that do well in all the above catagories.
What's going to be your claim to fame. |
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Posted: 4/24/2004 11:40:40 AM EDT
[#12]
Ditto. |
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Posted: 4/24/2004 12:37:05 PM EDT
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Here's what I want:
1. 6.8 supp, 2. 5.56 supp, 3. quick-detach mounts for common barrel profiles.. e.g. 6.8 "SPR" profile, LMT MRP profile, standard Hbar, A2, etc. 4. the ability to mount the 6.8 can on 5.56 barrels via existing quick-detach mounts. Gem-tech can do this, and can take orders for it today. Their cost is $725 per can including one quick-detach, and $85 extra per quick detach. So to outfit two barrels on my LMT MRP in 5.56, and my MSTN-built SPR-profile 6.8SPC upper would be about $1535 (plus tax). -z |
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Posted: 4/24/2004 12:57:32 PM EDT
[#14]
I'm interested in one for 6.8R SPC
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Posted: 4/24/2004 1:13:53 PM EDT
[#15]
YES!
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Posted: 4/24/2004 1:14:42 PM EDT
[#16]
If only I was 21......
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Posted: 4/24/2004 2:00:28 PM EDT
[#17]
Interested! I already have a barrel I want to attach your two port brake/collar to. If Nevada doesn't work, there is always Arizona!
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Posted: 4/24/2004 2:35:10 PM EDT
[#18]
This is a product I too would buy. The unit I have need for making oal. a minimum . Less added length than say my Ranger? Doesnt your product index the same each time installed? I have not seen one in the flesh.
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Posted: 4/24/2004 11:16:19 PM EDT
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My main question:
Will the Brake and QD suppressor for the M14 rifle (M1A) be available? That is what I am truly, truly wanting above all else. |
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Posted: 4/25/2004 1:01:43 AM EDT
[#20]
Ditto, Ditto |
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Posted: 4/25/2004 5:48:39 AM EDT
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What Lumpy said.
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Posted: 4/25/2004 7:02:27 AM EDT
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A couple of people have asked about quick detachable mounts. I am sorry to say we do not at this time offer a "QD" system. Our silencers either screw on to the barrel or the muzzle brake. If the quick detach system is what the civilian market wants. I will try to come up with a system that works for you. My main concern would be accuracy. I know that for some of these weapons accuracy is not as important. But I have a minimum accuracy standard when I test fire. And some of the QD systems I am told will not meet that. I would very much like to do some comparison testing. Perhaps I could get together with some people in AZ or NV and we could test the different systems on the same rifle. Then they could pass the results on to the AR15 community. This stuff is expensive and you the consumer have a right to know how these products compare to each other.
Ron Allen |
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Posted: 4/25/2004 7:16:42 AM EDT
[#23]
I was one who said I wanted a quick-detach. Quick-detach is perhaps the wrong choice of words.
Really, all I want is the ability to remove and replace the suppressor without having to break & reapply a thread-locking compound. "Quick" detach is not really necessary because the sights would likely have to be re-zeroed after mounting the 'can, anyway. The ability to remove the can for cleaning or barrel cleaning, or to switch to a different upper, is desireable. Civilian users are more likely to want to share one suppressor between multiple rifles/uppers, because of the paperwork and tax involved. -z |
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Posted: 4/25/2004 10:34:31 AM EDT
[#24]
I'm also in the market for a suppressor. The main things I am looking for are:
1) Either easy removal of the suppressor or a suppressor that can be left on the gun permanently due to ease of maintenance and durability as well as small size (Reflexed design?) 2) Predictable change of zero with suppressor attached. 3) Quiet is nice; but takes a seat behind durability and ease of maintenance for me. 4) Manufacturer willing to stand behind their product and educate me in its limitations and use. |
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Posted: 4/25/2004 10:14:22 PM EDT
[#25]
My SPR already has your Ops. Inc. 2 port muzzle break and suppressor mounting collar - just waiting on the can so I can add it...
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Posted: 4/25/2004 11:58:07 PM EDT
[#26]
As long as the base DMR brake and suppressor are available I'm in as a future customer.
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Posted: 4/26/2004 12:10:01 AM EDT
[#27]
As a long time NFA shooter...If you build those suppressors in NV, I'd buy.
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Posted: 4/26/2004 12:48:58 AM EDT
[#28]
I have two SPRs with OPS Inc. 2 port muzzle breaks that will be wanting for silencers when we move to AZ.
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Posted: 4/26/2004 5:19:49 AM EDT
[#29]
Any chance for making more Ops. Inc. 2 port muzzle breaks available for the public? I love the looks, but at the moment the price is quite high.
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Posted: 4/26/2004 5:48:42 AM EDT
[#30]
I've got an SPR just waiting for an OPS can.
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Posted: 4/26/2004 5:50:55 AM EDT
[#31]
How will you differentiate your product over everyone else's?
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Posted: 4/26/2004 6:02:43 AM EDT
[#32]
I need one for a .308 and another for a .223.
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Posted: 4/26/2004 6:27:45 AM EDT
[#33]
I'm in on the 2-port...
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Posted: 4/26/2004 7:58:41 AM EDT
[#34]
what he said. email sent also. for reference sake, i own 4 cans and 2 full auto guns. danny |
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Posted: 4/26/2004 8:04:03 AM EDT
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I can tell you that it doesn't matter what sure fire charges- they can't market to us "civilians". KAC is known as being the most spendy and/ or unobtainable due to military contracts. from my personal experience most consumers have gem-tech, AAC, SWR, AWC for big name companies (in no specific order) in 223 and 308 suppressors. Lots of little local guys/ one man shops that i don't think you will worry about competing with. oh- i would really like to see you guys come out from under the legislative burden in CA, and i would like the oppourtunity to buy your cans. Good Luck in your move. |
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Posted: 4/26/2004 10:42:20 AM EDT
[#36]
I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I'm confused. I thought that supressors made after 1986 were banned from the Civilian market.
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Posted: 4/26/2004 12:07:36 PM EDT
[#37]
bzzzzt wrong. suppressors can be made all the day long. California regulations somehow control a company that makes a suppressor in CA from selling to civilians or to out of state (almost the same thing (same effect anyway)) ops and surefire make suppressors in California. and another company that i can't remember off the top of my head |
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Posted: 4/26/2004 12:46:58 PM EDT
[#38]
Well, banned or not banned it doesn't make any difference to me. The State of Michigan doesn't think we need 'em. |
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Posted: 4/26/2004 12:53:01 PM EDT
[#39]
Well, add Michigan to the list of places "NOT" to live I don't have any NFA items but if OPS Inc. market to the public I'll def. be up for a 2 port break and can. KALIFORNIA sucks
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Posted: 4/26/2004 12:54:14 PM EDT
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NY'er so I'm out of the game until I move to a "free" state but please offer your products to the civilian market that legally can!(that legally "can"...get it?!?
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Posted: 4/26/2004 5:26:06 PM EDT
[#41]
I would be interested as well, price would be a factor.....
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Posted: 4/26/2004 6:24:20 PM EDT
[#42]
Well, there's a lot that differentiates the OPS suppressors from their competition. Not only are they quiet, but they're arguably the most rugged suppressor out there. Also, they're mostly reflex type suppressors, which don't drastically increase the OAL of your rifle when installed. Add on to that the fact that they're pretty cheap when compared with the KAC and Arms Tech suppressors, and about the same price as a Troy Industries suppressor .
Having said that, I'd definately buy one or two. -Cap'n |
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Posted: 4/26/2004 8:37:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Gentlemen,
I had a lengthly talk with a Dealer in Co. this morning about pricing and Dealer markup. I felt he was realistic. I have had quite a few emails regarding the high price and poor availability of the brakes.I promise both of these issues will improve within the next 60 days. If they do not, give me hell because it will be my fault. I may be able to give you some prices at the end of the week. I am also trying to resolve the discrepencies between the military barrel dimensions and the civilian versions. I don't want to have to make a bunch of different size parts to send with each brake or silencer setup and have you guys sort it out. You guys who already have odd size barrels will be ok. I will make special sizes for your barrels at no extra charge. Ron Allen |
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Posted: 4/27/2004 12:02:00 AM EDT
[#44]
i would strongly consider an OPS Inc can for my M4 and will definitely want a brake/can set for my (in the assembly stages) SPR.
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Posted: 4/27/2004 7:34:41 AM EDT
[#45]
Great news, Ron!
Thanks for attending to your customers wants. Check your e-mail. |
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Posted: 4/27/2004 8:01:20 AM EDT
[#46]
Thanks Ron, it was a pleasure talking to you this morning. You have the gratitude of the AR community for making these products available and putting an end to the ridiculous pricing some had been charging.
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Posted: 4/27/2004 8:25:59 AM EDT
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I live in IL right now.
I do have a question for ya. I have a 14.5in barrel with a vortex permanently attached because my state will not allow SBR'ing, and I never really planning on removing it anyways. Would there be any hope for me being able to use a suppressor of yours on a barrel setup like that? I know some can's have the ability to slip over specific flashhiders and lock in place...and I was wondering if that is even possible with a FS like the vortex. I am asking because very shortly I may be a resident of indiana. Thanks, Scott |
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Posted: 4/28/2004 11:41:37 AM EDT
[#48]
yes
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Posted: 4/28/2004 1:26:46 PM EDT
[#50]
Ditto Ditto Ditto, sorry had to do it....... |
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