

Originally Posted By Advance: Console yourself. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/Screenshot_2023-09-19_124120_png-2959344.JPG View Quote Lol, they don’t have to wait 9 months to get theirs |
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Just got email for preorder
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Just got my email. Has to email and ask how long I have to get my order in, out of town until Thursday. So can’t pre order until Thursday.
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Originally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt: Just got my email. Has to email and ask how long I have to get my order in, out of town until Thursday. So can't pre order until Thursday. View Quote I don't see the option for 25% down/balance when done, just full payment. |
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Saying it's limited to 100 cans, first come. I don't see the option for 25% down/balance when done, just full payment. View Quote Use code 25down at checkout. Gonna be pretty disappointed if I miss out. Didn’t know this was gonna be a public ordeal. Thought everyone could get one from the group buy. |
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100 cans and its public..... Nerds gonna buy this up fast.....
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: The 416-SD (and early M4-2000s) were not Cerakote. It's an older coating (would need to reference my old docs to see what it was, maybe GunKote) that's courser, flatter and does wear quicker. For those of us collector nerds finding a can with this older coating adds a little value (along with the older markings). At some point in the M4-2000 production AAC introduced Cerakote and that finish doesn't wear off quick (at least any quicker than any other suppressor). You can always send in your can to them and get it re-coated but they'll only repaint it with the newer cerakote, they don't do the old coating anymore (hence the collector value). So if you get a Cerakote can, it won't wear off quickly. Hard to capture in a photo, the difference is more stark in person, but here's a comparison: (Cerakote on top) https://i.imgur.com/qI8joMa.jpg View Quote SCARmor? |
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Just got a reply to my email asking how long it’s open. Limited to 100. Large number already spoken for. Recommend ordering asap. Looks like I’ll be missing out. So if you’re able to I’d order while you can.
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: The 416-SD (and early M4-2000s) were not Cerakote. It's an older coating (would need to reference my old docs to see what it was, maybe GunKote) that's courser, flatter and does wear quicker. For those of us collector nerds finding a can with this older coating adds a little value (along with the older markings). At some point in the M4-2000 production AAC introduced Cerakote and that finish doesn't wear off quick (at least any quicker than any other suppressor). You can always send in your can to them and get it re-coated but they'll only repaint it with the newer cerakote, they don't do the old coating anymore (hence the collector value). So if you get a Cerakote can, it won't wear off quickly. Hard to capture in a photo, the difference is more stark in person, but here's a comparison: (Cerakote on top) https://i.imgur.com/qI8joMa.jpg View Quote Thanks for the info. My new can just had a piece of paint chip off near the latch. It was originally 1 chip and then with my finger nail became 2 chips lol. Not a big issue as I don't mind getting it recoated at a later time. |
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Originally Posted By Omega9000: Thanks for the info. My new can just had a piece of paint chip off near the latch. It was originally 1 chip and then with my finger nail became 2 chips lol. Not a big issue as I don't mind getting it recoated at a later time. View Quote No prb! Eric/PSD has high-temp black so he might be a good option if you ever want it re-coated. He’s mad fast + might do a better job. |
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: No prb! Eric/PSD has high-temp black so he might be a good option if you ever want it re-coated. He’s mad fast + might do a better job. View Quote yup, he did my cerakote for this clone build. Fantastic work. I got a couple spare M4-2000's just in case one starts to look a little ratty ![]() |
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I find myself with spare gen 3 & gen 4 upper and 11" SD rail - I'm thinking I want to do the SD Rail 8.5 navy barrel thing. I have a few questions:
I have entered that weird non-standard never fielded clone world...why not? Thanks Yall and congratulations on getting Bauer and AAC to do the cans. I'm always impressed how far yall are willing to go, the nitride hardware was very cool, thanks for doing those LSU guy, the m4-2000 is very cool, the amount of tano ATACR's in the thread are impressive. I don't have ATACR and accessory budgets at the moment, so I'm living vicariously though yall. |
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Originally Posted By YuppieMike: I find myself with spare gen 3 & gen 4 upper and 11" SD rail - I'm thinking I want to do the SD Rail 8.5 navy barrel thing. I have a few questions:
I have entered that weird non-standard never fielded clone world...why not? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By YuppieMike: I find myself with spare gen 3 & gen 4 upper and 11" SD rail - I'm thinking I want to do the SD Rail 8.5 navy barrel thing. I have a few questions:
I have entered that weird non-standard never fielded clone world...why not? the amount of tano ATACR's in the thread are impressive. I don't have ATACR and accessory budgets at the moment, so I'm living vicariously though yall. I think you might have accidentally clicked on the wrong thread. I think there's a Noveske section in the Industry forum that may be what you're looking for where they can answer some of your questions. |
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Welp, in for a penny, in for a ton
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: None of this has anything to do with this thread. Of course there are, since he's the one who named them. The "Navy" barrels have absolutely nothing to do with this thread or devgru contract, it's purely the name Noveske gave their 8.5" barrels just like they named their Diplomat, Shorty, Afgan, Infidel, etc… lengths. The Instagram has what now? Tan ATACRs also have nothing to do with this thread and aren't correct for this build. I think you might have accidentally clicked on the wrong thread. I think there's a Noveske section in the Industry forum that may be what you're looking for where they can answer some of your questions. View Quote A page back you are saying, "End of the day this is just a nerdy hobby and should be fun… use what makes ya happy." Now you are saying being 100% clone correct, and don't ask question in the thread- and I'm seeing photos of tan atacrs telling dudes I like them, and that it's cool that guys went the extra mile to get us nitride hardware and a group buy of cans, that's awesome. It's been fun to watch and be a part of lightweight barrels come available, gen 3 uppers go from unobtanium to everywhere, gen 1 lowers turn to unobtanium, and now m4-2000 group guys/preorders. It's fun and interesting to watch the production cycles, scarcity of certain parts, and supply show back up. Cloning's more of the hunt and dedication to me than the finished product. I assume it's that way for more folks than just me. My 8.5 Navy SD rail question is I was under the impression from, earlier in the thread that Noveske submitted a few different configurations before the final selection, and one of those was a 8.5 with 11" SD rail. This configuration was not selected and they sold off the 8.5 navy barrels. But it sounds like that designation predates this contract/selection. Can you shut that down or help me find more info on that? |
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Originally Posted By YuppieMike: A page back you are saying, "End of the day this is just a nerdy hobby and should be fun… use what makes ya happy." Now you are saying being 100% clone correct, and don't ask question in the thread- and I'm seeing photos of tan atacrs telling dudes I like them, and that it's cool that guys went the extra mile to get us nitride hardware and a group buy of cans, that's awesome. It's been fun to watch and be a part of lightweight barrels come available, gen 3 uppers go from unobtanium to everywhere, gen 1 lowers turn to unobtanium, and now m4-2000 group guys/preorders. It's fun and interesting to watch the production cycles, scarcity of certain parts, and supply show back up. Cloning's more of the hunt and dedication to me than the finished product. I assume it's that way for more folks than just me. My 8.5 Navy SD rail question is I was under the impression from, earlier in the thread that Noveske submitted a few different configurations before the final selection, and one of those was a 8.5 with 11" SD rail. This configuration was not selected and they sold off the 8.5 navy barrels. But it sounds like that designation predates this contract/selection. Can you shut that down or help me find more info on that? View Quote My "use what makes you happy" comment was obviously directed at the choice between two issued parts for this specific rifle. A 8.5" barrel was never tested for this contract, neither was an SD rail. There was some confusion on the barrel back in the day (specifically because of the naming and a marketing photo that Noveske posted) that has since been cleared up. And there's never been a question on the SD rail. Nor has there been any question about tan atacrs. The solicitation specified barrel length and over all length requirements. (hence the original LWRC stock). Neither of those parts, an 8.5" barrel, SD rail or tan atacrs have anything to do with this clone/info thread and I'm simply pointing out there *are* threads elsewhere on this site that have an audience that'd love to help you with them. |
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Update:
Got my M42k preordered. Preordered 2 of them. The second one is in case later down the line someone wants one. and I’ll just pay my dealer a storage fee and keep it on his form 3. |
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My black m42k is sitting at my dealer waiting to get picked up as it just got approved. Now I need to wait another year for one of these.
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Originally Posted By LsuJon: The photos are not on your side. The vast majority of photos we have are from training and they are sim uppers with the sim can. the manual does show da cans so we can assume they intended to use them on 5.56 upper also. then the word started floating around they hade issues with them on 5.56 uppers. Then photos of those surfaced of them using their 416-SDs. One specifically, that shows a newer end cap. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_7053_jpeg-2957014.JPG Then AAC has a new contract for them that gets sent to Va beach. All of the evidence points to the rumors being true. No one is forcing you to buy an AAC can. View Quote You are basing this essentially on one photo? Looks like Green Team to me. Now the whole thread has switched to a AAC marketing campaign & sales I am sure they desperately need. I would caution you on jumping to conclusions based on limited info that greatly benefits a competitor. This is how we have been told for 20 years the HK416 sucks, Eotech sucks, HK417 sucks, Glock sucks, 1911 sucks, Sig sucks, etc, etc, etc. |
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Originally Posted By KTMmx001: You are basing this essentially on one photo? Looks like Green Team to me. Now the whole thread has switched to a AAC marketing campaign & sales I am sure they desperately need. I would caution you on jumping to conclusions based on limited info that greatly benefits a competitor. This is how we have been told for 20 years the HK416 sucks, Eotech sucks, HK417 sucks, Glock sucks, 1911 sucks, Sig sucks, etc, etc, etc. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By KTMmx001: You are basing this essentially on one photo? Looks like Green Team to me. Now the whole thread has switched to a AAC marketing campaign & sales I am sure they desperately need. I would caution you on jumping to conclusions based on limited info that greatly benefits a competitor. This is how we have been told for 20 years the HK416 sucks, Eotech sucks, HK417 sucks, Glock sucks, 1911 sucks, Sig sucks, etc, etc, etc. View Quote Definitely not green team. One of the guys has a gold squadron crusader cross on his shirt on the left sleeve. I don’t think they’d let candidates wear any colors during a selection process. And I definitely don’t think this thread has become an AAC campaign, it’s just the most recent thing that has become available to cloners. If NT4s became available for a group buy the mk18 thread would be come a NT4 campaign by that same logic. We all bought the dead air can, not for its shining performance but because it was clone correct. And let’s be brutally honest, clone guns are not the best guns out there. There is definitely lighter, better shooting guns and optics than what’s issued. So if we’re solely searching performance we should toss all these guns. All the dudes that used to be cool guys and still shoot, not one clones their guns from work. I think there’s a good reason for that. |
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Originally Posted By lemonyvince: AAC gang https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/423346/IMG_0215-2963777.jpg View Quote I don’t know if it’s the angle and camera but that stock looks so small |
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Originally Posted By lemonyvince: AAC gang https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/423346/IMG_0215-2963777.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lemonyvince: AAC gang https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/423346/IMG_0215-2963777.jpg Eta: waita minute.. I see what's happening lol. ![]() Originally Posted By StillGonnaSendIt: I don’t know if it’s the angle and camera but that stock looks so small |
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"A Mk18 is a handgun with a stock"/"10.3 is a 50 yard and in gun" - From SHTF AR Thread
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Originally Posted By lemonyvince: AAC gang https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/423346/IMG_0215-2963777.jpg View Quote |
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I know it’s a long shot and late in the game, but if anyone has a lead on a Gen 1 lower, please let me know. Thanks.
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Originally Posted By WarEagleAUB: I know it’s a long shot and late in the game, but if anyone has a lead on a Gen 1 lower, please let me know. Thanks. View Quote https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/Noveske-Devgru-100-clone-correct-5-56-and-300blk-Build-Parts-Kits/21-2378230/ |
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"We don't live in a third world country, we can oil our fucking rifle." -John Noveske quoting a friend
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Originally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Embrace it man...... https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53214900211_db385b5c8f_c.jpg View Quote it's a nice look. |
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what receiver end-plate is dev running and how are they attaching their slings? magpul asap or noveske QD maybe? paraclip?
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We’ve seen magpul asap on some guns. It’s also listed in the original booklet. But in some pictures noveske has shown of the finished guns, just show the noveske QD end plate. I’ve had the magpul asap and she’s a noisy bitch. Went back to the noveske end plate.
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Originally Posted By 6handbanana: what receiver end-plate is dev running and how are they attaching their slings? magpul asap or noveske QD maybe? paraclip? View Quote They notoriously don't use QD sling mounts, but pretty much any other way has been seen. The most commonly observed being just simple paracord. Noveske ships the guns with the QD endplate, but we've seen quite a few pop up in photos where it's been swapped out. Magapul, HK, MI all come to mind in terms of pics I have but I'm sure there's more. Probably just whatever is sitting around in the parts bin there when they go to swap it. For the front mount, the rifle ships with the standard RSA, and it shows up sometimes, but I'd say the majority of pics we see they're not using it and just using paracord tied on the handguard. |
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Makes sense. What attachment point do they use on their sling? Magpul Paraclip perhaps?
https://magpul.com/paraclip.html?mp_global_color=118 Since most of the pics we've seen most recently show there is no picatinny RSA mount, are they using the m-lok RSA mount then? https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fevoykxbeynqb1.png%3Fwidth%3D1440%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D48e8c5498bd8e3d6378cd33f072c7984eb3baad2 |
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Originally Posted By 6handbanana: Makes sense. What attachment point do they use on their sling? Magpul Paraclip perhaps? https://magpul.com/paraclip.html?mp_global_color=118 Since most of the pics we've seen most recently show there is no picatinny RSA mount, are they using the m-lok RSA mount then? https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fevoykxbeynqb1.png%3Fwidth%3D1440%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D48e8c5498bd8e3d6378cd33f072c7984eb3baad2 View Quote ![]() |
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Can also just direct thread it through the handgaurd or RSA. I really wouldn't stress it just use what you like.
direct thread through the RSA. ![]() 3vans direct threads his through his handgaurd. ![]() |
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super interesting to see that threaded through the m-lok slot. I would think that after 1 or 2 mag dumps the barrel could easily melt the sling though...?
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Originally Posted By ShiftSix: Do you work for DA or something? I don’t understand why it matters so much to you to white knight in this thread for them? ![]() I don’t have a horse in this race either, decided to run my Surefire from my CQBR, so no bias either way. Just seems odd everyone’s having a normal conversation about the new cans and you come in argumentative like someone’s insulted your mother lol Edit. They should have chose 556RC's. it looks sooo good on there lol https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53150491653_352b1dbefc_c.jpg View Quote Yeah it’s odd. I’m admittedly a dead air fanboy and have been let down with my sandman S (twice actually). I might abandon my clone and switch out to a 12.5” build. I personally believe a 12.5” noveske is the moves but I don’t get to make these important decisions. Just excited for the AAC M42K. |
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Originally Posted By LsuJon: No. That photo was just a quick, clear example, and you are just choosing to ignore what everyone else has said. Either way, buy whatever can you want no one cares. View Quote Like I said, it’s ONE photo. Then complete guessing based on another companies marketing. |
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Originally Posted By Omega9000: Definitely not green team. One of the guys has a gold squadron crusader cross on his shirt on the left sleeve. I don’t think they’d let candidates wear any colors during a selection process. And I definitely don’t think this thread has become an AAC campaign, it’s just the most recent thing that has become available to cloners. If NT4s became available for a group buy the mk18 thread would be come a NT4 campaign by that same logic. We all bought the dead air can, not for its shining performance but because it was clone correct. And let’s be brutally honest, clone guns are not the best guns out there. There is definitely lighter, better shooting guns and optics than what’s issued. So if we’re solely searching performance we should toss all these guns. All the dudes that used to be cool guys and still shoot, not one clones their guns from work. I think there’s a good reason for that. View Quote Yeah they shoot what they can get for free, or they get paid to shoot. |
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