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Posted: 12/16/2006 1:56:24 PM EDT
I have had a RRA Entry Tactical for about 8 mths. It has maybe 3k rounds thru it and I have never had a problem. I have cleaned the barrel and kept it lubed but never anything else. Not intimidated by it, just it really doesn't seem all that dirty Yet. It will not feed Winchester 45 GR JHP. It eats everything else with no problems. This has occured with both 20 and 30 rd mags that have not given me trouble with any other loads. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Link Posted: 12/16/2006 2:09:11 PM EDT
[#1]
Clean it and then report back.

It'll be a lot easier to diagnose with that huge variable out of the way.
Link Posted: 12/16/2006 2:18:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Do yourself a favor and save pain. Go out and buy a M1A. That AR platform was a problem 40 years ago and still a problem today. Read my post (Problems with Radway or something like that and see what I'm going through.)
I went out and did buy an M1A so I wouldn't end up with a AR lamppost. I've shot 'em back in 1971 and owned dozens I guess I didn't learn.
Link Posted: 12/16/2006 2:27:46 PM EDT
[#3]
Amazingly enough there are a large number of us here who use the AR platform to defend our lives and don't have issue with it.

I didn't feel poorly armed when I was handed a M16 in boot camp, when I carried it in the most godforsaken places on this planet, OR when I was given the choice to carry it as a Police Officer.

If you don't like it, sorry about your luck. I hope you are happy with your M1A.

To the OP, clean the weapon and report back. I run my guns dirty to check reliability, but when hiccups surface, it's time to clean them before troubleshooting begins.

BTW, never had a problem with a AR feeding quality ammo. Feed it shit and it will run like shit. True with almost every semi automatic weapon I have encountered.
Link Posted: 12/16/2006 2:32:52 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Do yourself a favor and save pain. Go out and buy a M1A. That AR platform was a problem 40 years ago and still a problem today. Read my post (Problems with Radway or something like that and see what I'm going through.)
I went out and did buy an M1A so I wouldn't end up with a AR lamppost. I've shot 'em back in 1971 and owned dozens I guess I didn't learn.


Beware, gunshop cowboy above.  Do not listen to him.

He bought military surplus ammo designed for a non-AR weapon and now is complaining that it won't work in his aftermarket AR.

Also, farmboy, I think the OP is probably pretty satisfied with his weapon since he's fired 3000 rounds through it without cleaning and no failures except for this new feed problem with 45gr JHPs.
Link Posted: 12/16/2006 2:53:06 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Do yourself a favor and save pain. Go out and buy a M1A. That AR platform was a problem 40 years ago and still a problem today. Read my post (Problems with Radway or something like that and see what I'm going through.)
I went out and did buy an M1A so I wouldn't end up with a AR lamppost. I've shot 'em back in 1971 and owned dozens I guess I didn't learn.


Beware, gunshop cowboy above.  Do not listen to him.

He bought military surplus ammo designed for a non-AR weapon and now is complaining that it won't work in his aftermarket AR.

Also, farmboy, I think the OP is probably pretty satisfied with his weapon since he's fired 3000 rounds through it without cleaning and no failures except for this new feed problem with 45gr JHPs.


I agree.

Also, clean the gun and then try out the load. I don't know if this is the problem or not, but like Phoebus said, it's a variable that needs to be eliminated before further diagnosis.

There is a cleaning and maintenance forum here you can reference, in case you don't know what to do. It's very easy.
Link Posted: 12/16/2006 2:55:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Guys it has did this from day 1. I went out with Remington UMC and the Winchester JHP the first time that I shot it and about every 3rd. round of the hollowpoints would not feed. It would get caught about half way up the feed ramp.  The bullet would actually get pushed about half way into the casing. I will however take your advice and try cleaning it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2006 2:59:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Day one, huh?

1. check for burrs on the feedramps
2. if it has m4 feed ramps, make sure the ramps on both the receiver and the extension are aligned and that there is no disjoint between them
3. Have you tried feeding these rounds out multiple known-good mags?  If a mag is marginal, an unusually-difficult-to-feed round could put it over the edge.

Does the stick when you pull back the charging handle and let it go, or only when you're shooting?
Link Posted: 12/16/2006 3:22:56 PM EDT
[#8]
I'm so new to this honestly I'm not even sure what a "M4" feed ramp looks like. The ramps that are on it seem to be fairly smooth. The magazines that I have used were the one sent with it and some C products ones that I bought after lurking around here for a while. I haven't shot it in a couple off weeks but best I can remember it occurs only when I am shooting the gun. It seems to load one into the chamber when I use the charging handle with no problems but I'm not 100% until I go back to the range.
Link Posted: 12/16/2006 3:26:09 PM EDT
[#9]
If it only happens while shooting, it's likely a gas issue.  For some reason it  sounds like this ammo might be causing your rifle to short-stroke, maybe cycling just enough to strip the round but without enough oomph to take it all the way up the ramp.

You should check out the Troubleshooting Forum.  They are the experts there, they'll give you an answer straight up.
Link Posted: 12/17/2006 8:46:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Amazingly enough there are a large number of us here who use the AR platform to defend our lives and don't have issue with it.

You think you were/are the only one?

I think the AR is great to target shoot but I wouldn't count my life on one. I seem to attract, not you, but many smart asses who don't know an AR from a Daisy. eg: little cowboy comment above. Never to a man's face but through wire.

I've had my experiences with M-16/AR15 and my son who also did his time in the Army said "they're not reliable Dad."  He also was a SAW gunner for a while and that was worse. I said, I know, just keep the piece clean. To the OP, keep the rifle clean.
Get educated and learn to disassembly the entire rifle.

I tore the Bushmaster rifle down and cleaned every little nook and cranny I hope that will do it. I even remove the barrel for inspection. I get a lot of good information off this forum but the information I received didn't work so the wrench came out.
I've build some AR'S and they worked well but honestly I think I best one's I've owned were my Colts. I'll always have one Black rifle in my safe.

My ammo? You call shit. I have the Bushmaster problem with the non-shit ammo as well.

The AR-15/M-16 is a fine target shooter and accurate and I have had some that worked great. By rely my life on one. No.

We are seeing more M1A's in our Tactical courses now days then ever before.





Link Posted: 12/17/2006 8:51:01 PM EDT
[#11]
*sigh*

and the myths continue...

...and believe me, if you came to my range spouting that bullshit, I'd call you a gunshop cowboy to your face.  I just don't have that pleasure.
Link Posted: 12/17/2006 8:52:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Beware, gunshop cowboy above. Do not listen to him.


Gunshop Cowboy. Oh yeah I'll listen to you.

Radway works in most AR-15's grasshopper.
Link Posted: 12/17/2006 8:56:29 PM EDT
[#13]
...and believe me, if you came to my range spouting that bullshit, I'd call you a gunshop cowboy to your face. I just don't have that pleasure.

You may have that pleasure I left my cell number on the other thread. Come up sometime and tell me all about it. I'll tell you where I live. No problem.

If you talk the talk on wire that's ok with me.
Link Posted: 12/17/2006 9:28:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Oh right, I'll back off.

I'll figure the Bushmaster out. I was out of line that's why I'm in a different line of business.

Let me ask this. What is your favorite bullet weight to feed your AR?


I know the OP has problems with the lighter grain. I've shot that weight before through Colts without problems. Check your ammo first for dents, dings or other damage. Check the feed ramp is it smooth or is it damaged with rough edges? Work with different magazines. Check if you over lubed the chamber. Start the process of elimination.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 7:14:30 PM EDT
[#15]
I was a jerk.

Moving on.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 8:01:50 PM EDT
[#16]
M1As..yea the one made by springfield..its not even made to the right specs..are they still being cheap and charging $1300 for a rifle with no chrome lined barrel and a cast out of spec receiver.ARs are reliable if know how to maintain em..they dont have to pass the white glove test to work reliably.You just have to know how to take care of it depending on the environment.I have an M14 type..its a polytech marked IDE SFLD MICH..the best of the bunch no heat treat issues and a TRW bolt dropped right in..Ill run my commie 14 against a SA M1A any day..then my ARin any event LRB=best M14 type.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 11:16:33 PM EDT
[#17]
..Ill run my commie 14 against a SA M1A any day..then my ARin any event LRB=best M14 type

[Stay patient.....]

M1A SOCOM/Aimpoint AR15 6.8SPC Stag upper Bushmaster lower.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 11:39:22 PM EDT
[#18]
I don't know maybe its just cause its late but post like this make me feel more and more like my ol man.  Im starting to tell my self more and more to heck with a AR or any other auto/semi auto for that matter and just start buying wheel/single bolt guns again to trust me and mine with.  I don't know like I said maybe its just late and I need sleep but I can remember from long ago my pops telling me less is more when it come to stuff like this.  Auto/semi auto good for plinking/fun but not for life or death situations unless necessary.......................................Yep bed time for me.
Link Posted: 12/30/2006 11:47:02 PM EDT
[#19]
I don't know maybe its just cause its late but post like this make me feel more and more like my ol man. Im starting to tell my self more and more to heck with a AR or any other auto/semi auto for that matter and just start buying wheel/single bolt guns again to trust me and mine with. I don't know like I said maybe its just late and I need sleep but I can remember from long ago my pops telling me less is more when it come to stuff like this. Auto/semi auto good for plinking/fun but not for life or death situations unless necessary.

Makes sense. I get wrapped up into this too much and it is late.
Your pops was right.
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 8:04:42 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Amazingly enough there are a large number of us here who use the AR platform to defend our lives and don't have issue with it.

You think you were/are the only one?

I think the AR is great to target shoot but I wouldn't count my life on one. I seem to attract, not you, but many smart asses who don't know an AR from a Daisy. eg: little cowboy comment above. Never to a man's face but through wire.

I've had my experiences with M-16/AR15 and my son who also did his time in the Army said "they're not reliable Dad."  He also was a SAW gunner for a while and that was worse. I said, I know, just keep the piece clean. To the OP, keep the rifle clean.
Get educated and learn to disassembly the entire rifle.

I tore the Bushmaster rifle down and cleaned every little nook and cranny I hope that will do it. I even remove the barrel for inspection. I get a lot of good information off this forum but the information I received didn't work so the wrench came out.
I've build some AR'S and they worked well but honestly I think I best one's I've owned were my Colts. I'll always have one Black rifle in my safe.

My ammo? You call shit. I have the Bushmaster problem with the non-shit ammo as well.

The AR-15/M-16 is a fine target shooter and accurate and I have had some that worked great. By rely my life on one. No.

We are seeing more M1A's in our Tactical courses now days then ever before.




Sounds like you've owned more ARs than 95% of people on arf.com.  Why did you sell Colts to buy Bushmaster?  Why did you contiue to buy/build ARs if they suck so bad?
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 5:18:13 PM EDT
[#21]
Sounds like you've owned more ARs than 95% of people on arf.com. Why did you sell Colts to buy Bushmaster? Why did you contiue to buy/build ARs if they suck so bad?

My jaw was a little tight that night is all. This Bushmaster had the most problems out of all AR rifles I've owned. Turned out to be a bad carrier. I should of kept my Colts and the Les Baer (2 uppers) The Les Baer was flawless and I remember 1 maybe 2 Colts that way. The reason why I didn't keep them? They're like foster kids "they come and go." I wanted to try different makes even selling at a loss (to dealers and friends who pass my test). I wanted to compare quality and after building them I do like the rifle. (piece, lamp post, whatever..) It's sometimes a bitch to resolve problems but all in all a good rifle. I sold the Bushmaster upper to a friend and filled him the history. I now have 6.8spc Stag upper on my Bushmaster lower. I put the rifle through the ringer on my range and was flawless. I like the 6.8spc it felt good. However if I have problems I can narrow it down faster then before after owning all those rifles. I enjoy the mechanical and accuracy of the AR it's a little light in my arms but I remember way back after running all day it got heavy. My next project is to repair a buds AR that short strokes. We'll shoot and scoot on the range. After buying myself a present I'm a little short on cash but if (when) I buy another it's going to be a LMT.
Link Posted: 12/31/2006 5:37:56 PM EDT
[#22]
HeyI have owned/been exposed to M1As, M14s, M1 Garands, A15s and AR10s.  I was taught by my Dad to treat every gun with TLC (tender loving care) and to shoot the right type of ammo, and maintain them.  So far I have had no problems with any firearm that I have owned by following this strict regime.  I guess it goes to show you if you treat something good, it will treat you good.  See you later.  By the way, happy new year.

James
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