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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:20:49 PM EDT

Hey guys i am new to the site and AR's i didn't notice a newbie section so i will post here. I want an AR pretty bad but i think i should pic up a AR in .22 cal to get familiar with the workings and handling of it's bigger brother. Is this a good idea or should i just dive into a .223?

Posted: 8/10/2011 1:25:48 PM EDT

[#1]

Just go ahead and get the big brother!

Posted: 8/10/2011 1:34:05 PM EDT

[#2]

5.56 is already a very mild caliber, do yourself a favor and get the big brother

If you really want to shoot .22 then just get a drop in conversion bolt

Posted: 8/10/2011 1:39:52 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Hey guys i am new to the site and AR's i didn't notice a newbie section so i will post here. I want an AR pretty bad but i think i should pic up a AR in .22 cal to get familiar with the workings and handling of it's bigger brother. Is this a good idea or should i just dive into a .223?

Get the big brother. Flattop receiver, mid length gas system.

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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:40:08 PM EDT

[#4]

Like said above, get a 5.56 and a .22lr conversion.

Please dont fist the Wookie.

Posted: 8/10/2011 1:42:24 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Like said above, get a 5.56 and a .22lr conversion.

Please dont fist the Wookie.

That is a very disturbing mental picture...

Posted: 8/10/2011 1:53:09 PM EDT

[#6]

Get the .223/5.56

Posted: 8/10/2011 1:53:29 PM EDT

[#7]

Welcome to the sickness that is BRD.

Posted: 8/10/2011 1:56:16 PM EDT

[#8]

i'm pretty new to it myself, and i have to say. the 5.56 really isn't that bad by any means.

Posted: 8/10/2011 2:33:12 PM EDT

[#9]

Dive into .223. (but make sure it is stamped 5.56x45mm on the barrel)

Posted: 8/10/2011 3:17:46 PM EDT

[#10]

Again sorry for my ignorance i am just learming about these rifles but why should i make sure the barrel is stamped 5.56x45mm?

Posted: 8/10/2011 3:30:25 PM EDT

[#11]

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Again sorry for my ignorance i am just learming about these rifles but why should i make sure the barrel is stamped 5.56x45mm?

Well you being new to the AR world, there are other calibers that are used in the AR platform.

Posted: 8/10/2011 3:35:02 PM EDT

[#12]

Yea, sorry i pretty much know nothing about these rifles other than what i have picked up by looking at this site.

Posted: 8/10/2011 4:31:30 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Again sorry for my ignorance i am just learming about these rifles but why should i make sure the barrel is stamped 5.56x45mm?

Well you being new to the AR world, there are other calibers that are used in the AR platform.

And .223 and 5.56 are similar calibers. .223 can be fired safely from 5.56 chambers but 5.56 is not advised to be shot from .223 chambers.

Posted: 8/10/2011 4:32:03 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Again sorry for my ignorance i am just learming about these rifles but why should i make sure the barrel is stamped 5.56x45mm?

You can shoot 5.56 or .223 in a 5.56 chambered gun, but it is not advised to shoot 5.56 in a .223 chambered gun. The Ammo Oracle provides a good explanation.

ETA - And to expand on the consensus here, if you get a 5.56 gun you can use a .22 conversion in it, but a dedicated .22 as made by Colt, S&W etc. is stuck with .22.

Posted: 8/10/2011 4:52:05 PM EDT

[#15]

I suggest finding someone with one and have them train you on some of the specifics. I seen guys with new rifles trying to pull back the charging handle after each shot and guys real dumb founded if they have a jam cuz they didnt know to lube it up. its nothing you cant figure out on your own but best to have some guidance. and also start with some simple brass rounds like American Eagle AE223 or equivalent. dont run steel right away. If you choose to do so.

Posted: 8/10/2011 4:54:05 PM EDT

[#16]

its easier to downgrade than it is to upgrade.... get the 5.56 first!

Posted: 8/10/2011 5:55:24 PM EDT

[#17]

I'm new to the site myself. I made the mistake you are talking about. There is no comparison. I bought the 22lr version first and realized it was a mistake. The .223 version is so much more fun. I will say that I wish .223 cost as little as .22lr but there is no comparison.

Go for the big brother

Posted: 8/11/2011 6:17:30 AM EDT

[#18]

Yea, go for 5.56, the best thing to do is become familiar with your rifle before ever loading it up by just handling it in generel. Pop ur mag in and out rack the charging handle, detatch upper from lower, just two pins to push back..its fool proof. Learn how itit works .And as always if you have any questions, just ask. You may get a couple smartass responses but someone will be along to help you out.

Posted: 8/11/2011 6:28:13 AM EDT

[#19]

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Dive into .223. (but make sure it is stamped 5.56x45mm on the barrel)

This.

You will get "bored" with the .22 really quick and want to upgrade. Save the money you would spend on a .22 and get the 5.56.

Make sure it is 5.56 as it can shoot both 223 and 5.56.

If you want to shoot .22 there is a conversion you can get, giving you the ability to shoot both.

Posted: 8/11/2011 6:56:44 AM EDT

[#20]

im a noob too- try reading the FAQs page at the top- tons an tons of info.

Posted: 8/11/2011 7:14:46 AM EDT

[#21]

Get the big brother.................buy lots of ammo..............save up $24 and support this site.............you will not regret!

Then save up and build your own.

You got to have multiplics.

Posted: 8/11/2011 8:39:29 AM EDT

[#22]

I agree with everyone here. Don't waste your money on a .22 cal if it's a .223 that you want. Get a .22 for plinking if that's what you want, but otherwise opt for the .223

Posted: 8/11/2011 8:47:29 AM EDT

[#23]

Get the big brother and buy a CMMG 22LR upper later to go with it. Will be more accurate on most ammo than a 22 LR conversion.

Posted: 8/11/2011 2:27:29 PM EDT

[#24]

Thanks for all the replys it looks like the unanimus vote is the .223 over the .22 lr.

Posted: 8/11/2011 3:29:54 PM EDT

[#25]

BCM

Posted: 8/12/2011 7:39:52 AM EDT

[#26]

Now i guess the next big question is Build my own or buy a complete rifle and upgrade from there?

Posted: 8/12/2011 10:23:39 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Thanks for all the replys it looks like the unanimus vote is the .223 over the .22 lr.

I think the suggestions are 5.56 over .22 lr

.223 and 5.56 are not the same.

Posted: 8/12/2011 10:32:21 AM EDT

[#28]

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Now i guess the next big question is Build my own or buy a complete rifle and upgrade from there?

buy first and learn to shoot it. Once you are proficient, then think about "upgrades".

Posted: 8/12/2011 11:08:25 AM EDT

[#29]

I was under the impression that .223 and 5.56 are the exact same bullet. If they are the same whats the difference in the chambering?

Posted: 8/12/2011 11:13:15 AM EDT

[#30]

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I was under the impression that .223 and 5.56 are the exact same bullet. If they are the same whats the difference in the chambering?

As covered earlier in this thread, they are very similar however you don't want to shoot 5.56 in a .223 chamber. Shooting .223 AND 5.56 in a 5.56 chamber is ok.

Posted: 8/12/2011 12:35:27 PM EDT

[#31]

Just joined this site yesterday. Bought my third Colt AR-15 last week. Got the Law Enforcement/Military carbine. Already 'accessorized' it to the max. (particularly love the foregrip that when you hit 'the button' a springloaded bipod snaps out. Cool.....Has an Evo halographic scope(took some getting used to: keeping both eyes open) equpped with constant 'on' or 'strobe', lite, full rail system, and Leopold 'AR' 4/12 scope for when you want to reach out and touch someone, errrrr, something. Will send time on this site fore sure.

Posted: 8/12/2011 12:40:40 PM EDT

[#32]

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Just joined this site yesterday. Bought my third Colt AR-15 last week. Got the Law Enforcement/Military carbine. Already 'accessorized' it to the max. (particularly love the foregrip that when you hit 'the button' a springloaded bipod snaps out. Cool.....Has an Evo halographic scope(took some getting used to: keeping both eyes open) equpped with constant 'on' or 'strobe', lite, full rail system, and Leopold 'AR' 4/12 scope for when you want to reach out and touch someone, errrrr, something. Will send time on this site fore sure.

Welcome ARCattledog. How about some pics?

Posted: 8/12/2011 1:03:44 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Just joined this site yesterday. Bought my third Colt AR-15 last week. Got the Law Enforcement/Military carbine. Already 'accessorized' it to the max. (particularly love the foregrip that when you hit 'the button' a springloaded bipod snaps out. Cool.....Has an Evo halographic scope(took some getting used to: keeping both eyes open) equpped with constant 'on' or 'strobe', lite, full rail system, and Leopold 'AR' 4/12 scope for when you want to reach out and touch someone, errrrr, something. Will send time on this site fore sure.

Welcome ARCattledog. How about some pics?

Be glad to, soon as I get some. Waiting on my case as we speak, and the mount for the Leopold just came in today. I've got it in another metal case I already had, but won't fit with the foregrip installed. In other words, I'm still putting it together. Haven't even shot it yet, but am anxious to. Also got 2,000 rounds of ammo dellivered from UPS yesterday, (including 'Green Tips') so I be good to go. Thanks for the welcome.

Also gotta figure out how to upload photos, but maybe can't do that with just a basic membership. Looks like an upgrade REAL quick. Thanks.