Hello all
Finally up and joined the Forum
hereKeeping tabs on the Shrike as well as the STG556 and such
I’ve owned many weapons over the years, and even a few class III items, but for some reason never gave the AR15 a chance. Shot one last year and was surprised at the feel and rapid follow up shots with the .223 caliber. With the option for different caliber uppers such as the Beowulf setup later on for hunting it makes for an appealing rifle.
Started thinking about getting one, and finally picked up a Stag Arms stripped lower receiver at a gun show several months back. (I read a lot of positive feedback about stag arms ) It was all I could afford at the time, and I figured if I got that, and then if the anti-gunners get back in control id have a “pre ban” receiver if they up and ban “assault weapons” again.
hisHere is where I’m at.
Since I have a stripped lower, it seems like my best bet is to just buy a complete rifle kit, rather then trying to piece it together from several different vendors. Unfortunately the only way to get exactly what you want is to probably piece it together. I’m on a tight budget, so I’m trying to stay at the lower end of the AR15 spectrum yet retain quality.
Since I plan on the Beowulf later for hunting, my best bet is a flat top upper so that I can swap optics / sights between uppers as needed. Also I don’t need the Tacticool rail setups for a bunch of accessories I can’t afford anyways.. although I really like the way they look!
There are 2 setups I’ve been leaning towards, with a 3rd and 4th that are thrown in just to make my choices harder. heheheheh
1. I really like the 16” mid-length setups visually, as well as the improved reliability of the longer gas system. I was leaning towards a Del-Ton complete kit due to the low cost, and overall good reviews / customer service I’ve been seeing here. The kit starts at 465, + 45 for chrome lined. Might even consider the RRA 2 stage trigger + 80, as well as the Magpul CTR for another 60, add another 25 bucks or so for shipping. = 535 - 675 shipped. Not sure how much for a rear sight, but I think I would get one of the flip up ones… at least 80 bucks.?
2. I also really like the look of the Dissipator setups. If I get one, I would want the mid-length gas system, not the full or CAR setup. I have only seen one place that sell a complete kit for the Dissy. Model 1 Sales - ive read both good and bad reviews about them, and would much rather go with Del-ton for peace of mind. Anyone have any links to other dissipater complete kits at a similar cost? The Model 1 dissipator kit does not specify if its mid-length gas or not. Does anyone know? $545 chrome lined bore and chamber + 80 more for a flip up rear sight add another 25 or so for shipping - $650 delivered.
3. My 3rd option comes from all the reading I did on the dissipater with the pros and cons of the CAR setup , mid-length, and full length with differences in pressure and bullet dwell after it passes the gas port etc.. I recall reading that you can have a full length gas setup with a 18in barrel and it will work fine. So I guess I would also consider an 18in setup as its similar to the dissipator mid-length gas, but with the benefits of full length gas, as well as higher bullet velocity / accuracy. Does anyone have any pictures of an 18in setup? Would love to see a picture with a midlength, dissy, and an 18in setup all in it. All I could find was the CMMG setup, and it just shows the upper. Can anyone verify that a full length gas setup is reliable with an 18” barrel? Also if it is reliable, couldn’t I just buy a 20in kit and have the barrel cut and threaded at 18”? How much would this cost? Could this be a better / cheaper route then a dissipator kit?
4. Legal Transfers LLC has a complete Stag rifle kit 2H-M4 for $633 shipped. It comes with 6 pos stock, flip up sight, 30rd mag, chrome lined bore and chamber, etc…. Seems like a really good price for that setup. Only downside, is I really like the look of a mid length, or a dissipator to the M4 setup. Also, how would you rank the quality of Stag to Delton? Does either of them have a better rep? more features that I’m not getting into like staked, m4 feed ramps, and other things I don’t understand yet?
Also, I see pictures of a lot of weapons with eotech, aog, and other optical sights, that still have the fixed front sight. Is this a good setup? Does it impair the view of the optic? If so, is it worth it to get a flat top gas block with a flip down front sight as well?
Sorry for the super long post
hanksRegards,
Koren