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Posted: 3/18/2013 8:19:24 PM EDT
I've heard bad, but mostly good things about DPMS.The one I got,but hasnt arrived yet,is an Oracle, M-4 style.Not that familiar except from what little Ive read.I have several "ban" able weapons already,one being a Colt SP-1 AR-15 full size rifle.I'll eventually add a few mods to it. My Colt hasnt had anything done to it in the over 15 yrs Ive had it,& just bought a quad rail hanguard pc. for it. Any tips or advice is appreciated.......
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 9:00:22 PM EDT
Oh, man. Have you come to the wrong place for this advice!

First, welcome to the forum! All are welcome.
But you've stumbled into the "retro" forum, where we have an unflinching, manly love for the early AR15 design of Eugene Stoner and company.
Around here, we believe an SP1 is a thing of simplicity and beauty just the way she left the factory, and anyone who would deface her with atrocious non-necessities like a quad rail forearm should be pummeled with carbon steel gas tubes until they see the light!

This forum is dedicated to "A1" and earlier ARs, with a strong focus on the models of the Vietnam era.
Stick around, get to know us, and give us a chance to change your opinion of that simple, lightweight rifle you already own!

Oh--and post photos! (Of the SP1...not necessarily the DPMS. )
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 9:05:12 PM EDT
+1 to what olgunner said. i'm sure all of us here will agree to leave the sp1 alone. don't put that rail on it. the a1 wasn't designed for rails/vertical grips/lights/lasers etc...

the only optic that it was designed for was a carry handle mounted scope and the bipod was a clamp on one.

once you get your dpms, you can go all tacticool on that one.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 9:11:54 PM EDT
Welcome to retroland. You will thank everyone down the road for advising to keep SP-1 just as it is with the only upgrades being period correct accessories.
Link Posted: 3/18/2013 9:30:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MAXIMUS79:
a Colt SP-1 AR-15 full size rifle.I'll eventually add a few mods to it.


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I bet that if you wanted a rifle to add mods to, you could sell or trade that beautiful original rifle to someone here that would appreciate it for what it already is, and what it isnt.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 12:00:50 AM EDT
Don't mod the SP1.

When Retro Black Rifle Disease sets in and you can't find your slip ring to put it back to its original form you're going to be sorry.

You will also remember this thread and say, "I should have listened!"
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 12:15:10 AM EDT
Nothing wrong with the DPMS. But if you're going to modify anything please consider the new rifle as a candidate. The SP1 is a classic.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 1:09:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2013 1:22:19 AM EDT by MAXIMUS79]
I havent done anything to the SP-1...yet. I think Ive had it longer than 15,more 20+..I had an A1 in boot camp.This one came with round handguards & Im not sure if the SP-1 was supposed to have the original "triangular" shaped ones.The only other item in question is the flash suppresor on it. Heres one pic of it,I'll take more-> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/nwmaximus/Arsenal/COLTAR-15SP-190RNDRmag.jpg
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 2:39:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2013 2:42:54 AM EDT by Booze]
Triangular handguards are cheap and plentiful. Look up boywonder on the Equipment Exchange, beat up handguards cost pocket change, and nice ones are only a few bucks more.


Edit: Click here for parts goodness.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_159/848975_WTS___Retro_A1_Triangular_Handguards__A1_Stocks__etc______updated_2_6.html
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:15:08 AM EDT
Just from the pic those A-2 HG's look in nice shape and appear to be USGI nice and shiney examples. Nice looking rifle. Probably a little heavy with a loaded drum. Pick up a nice set of A-1 Hg's to complement rifle when chance occurs at a decent price. Try and get a NOS, finish matching set if spending over $30. Armysurpluswarehouse still has NOS right side only triangle Hg's for $2.49ea if bargain shopping since member Boywonder has been mentioned. Also member Jhud has had them in the past. Sir Plus also had NOS HG's but haven't checked recently.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:16:26 AM EDT
Welcome
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 7:13:47 AM EDT
Welcome to retroland.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 11:53:36 AM EDT
You've got a Lonestar Stow-A-Way pistol grip on there.

Someone doing an Izzy clone would swap you an original A1 grip for it, I am sure.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 12:38:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2013 12:41:01 PM EDT by MAXIMUS79]
Thanks,guys.It seems I may jusy have the lower Colt reciever.& an A2 upper.I already knew about the Lonestart grip as being installed by the previous owner. Serial # 106200 http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/nwmaximus/IMG_20130319_132053_609_zps470cd401.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/nwmaximus/IMG_20130319_133631_951_zpsce06784a.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/nwmaximus/IMG_20130319_132941_119_zps5d5cdd19.jpg
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 1:09:04 PM EDT
Looks like an A1 upper with A2 handguards and a Vortex (?) flash hider.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 1:12:57 PM EDT
Run away before you catch brd there is no cure.


That being said that looks like a piriod correct vortex
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 2:30:51 PM EDT
Yep, you may want to get an original PG, HGs, FH, Sling, 3X20 scope... Feeling light headed or feverish yet?
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 7:21:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Looks like an A1 upper with A2 handguards and a Vortex (?) flash hider.
Yeah,I think U R correct.And yas,it is a Vortex

Link Posted: 3/19/2013 7:22:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By yankee-V:
Yep, you may want to get an original PG, HGs, FH, Sling, 3X20 scope... Feeling light headed or feverish yet?
Yep! PG?

Link Posted: 3/19/2013 7:27:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MAXIMUS79:
Originally Posted By yankee-V:
Yep, you may want to get an original PG, HGs, FH, Sling, 3X20 scope... Feeling light headed or feverish yet?
Yep! PG?



pistol grip. What you have is an aftermarket A1~ish style.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 7:36:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:
Originally Posted By MAXIMUS79:
Originally Posted By yankee-V:
Yep, you may want to get an original PG, HGs, FH, Sling, 3X20 scope... Feeling light headed or feverish yet?
Yep! PG?



pistol grip. What you have is an aftermarket A1~ish style.


Oh,right! Its a Lone Star
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 8:12:12 PM EDT
If you want to trade you're lone star grip for a. A1
Shoot me a e mail
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 8:31:46 PM EDT
Hello MAXIMUS79. Your SP1 may not be too far off from "correct." What markings are on the barrel? The upper receiver is A1 but looks like it has a little texture in it, it could be refinished. Also, are there any forge codes on the right side of the carry handle? ("CK" or "CH") Can you tell us what markings are on the bolt + carrier / show us pictures. FCG components are unique to SP1s too, hand guards look like old shiny Colt and A2 fans seem to like them.

The DPMS should work fine.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 10:22:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Trimdad:
If you want to trade you're lone star grip for a. A1
Shoot me a e mail


See!?!
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 1:43:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By somebob:
Hello MAXIMUS79. Your SP1 may not be too far off from "correct." What markings are on the barrel? The upper receiver is A1 but looks like it has a little texture in it, it could be refinished. Also, are there any forge codes on the right side of the carry handle? ("CK" or "CH") Can you tell us what markings are on the bolt + carrier / show us pictures. FCG components are unique to SP1s too, hand guards look like old shiny Colt and A2 fans seem to like them.

The DPMS should work fine.


I dont see anything on the barrel,or carry handle.The bolt carrier has a "C" on it
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