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Posted: 8/10/2011 11:44:12 AM EDT
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From the topic on Russian forum:
2 stage trigger, chrome lined bore, chamber and carrier, free float handguard - carbine GS, apparently full auto lower thats all I know about it - they just started making them |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 11:47:13 AM EDT
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Uh... IBTL?
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Posted: 8/10/2011 12:05:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2011 12:09:35 PM EDT
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Lock up the dog.
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Posted: 8/10/2011 12:11:03 PM EDT
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 made in ukraine.......be gone demon!!!!!! 
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Posted: 8/10/2011 12:20:55 PM EDT
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Oh really? Please, do tell.
From the topic on Russian forum: 2 stage trigger, chrome lined bore, chamber and carrier, free float handguard - carbine GS, apparently full auto lower thats all I know about it - they just started making them |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 12:20:56 PM EDT
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Uh... IBTL? IBTATF |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 12:31:29 PM EDT
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Uh... IBTL? IBTATF  Seriously this
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Posted: 8/10/2011 12:31:58 PM EDT
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Oh really? Please, do tell.
From the topic on Russian forum: 2 stage trigger, chrome lined bore, chamber and carrier, free float handguard - carbine GS, apparently full auto lower thats all I know about it - they just started making them Sear pin hole above selector. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 12:34:00 PM EDT
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I guess "full auto" words triggered this reply :)
I meant to say that I picked up the pictures from the forum, not the rifle :) looks like there lower is machined with the hole drilled for the auto sear , but the FCG is semi-auto - again this is hearsay from the same forum. so, unclench, ATF has no business in this post, they are out of jurisdiction :) and have no probable cause 
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Posted: 8/10/2011 12:52:49 PM EDT
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I guess "full auto" words triggered this reply :) I meant to say that I picked up the pictures from the forum, not the rifle :) looks like there lower is machined with the hole drilled for the auto sear , but the FCG is semi-auto - again this is hearsay from the same forum. so, unclench, ATF has no business in this post, they are out of jurisdiction :) and have no probable cause Convenient. Did you get the response you were looking for? 
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:01:45 PM EDT
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know.
I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:05:04 PM EDT
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:06:08 PM EDT
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Don't be too sensitive. People were reacting to your statement that you had picked up what appears to be be a fully automatic foreign made lower receiver, which for all intents and purposes cannot be imported. You were unclear on the meaning of your post. So lets all relax and have a glass of cold Stolichnaya!
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:09:54 PM EDT
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If the price is low, i'd buy one to try it out. i always like having a few conversation pieces in the safe.
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:10:24 PM EDT
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guns.ru :)
I dig it. Might be junk, but it's different, and different is good among millions of alike in my book. Speaking of which I wonder what russian gun-guys think of the AR? |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:11:01 PM EDT
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Wow...
Looks like the FF tube is angled downwards
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:18:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: why does it look like shit? to me it looks no worse than entry level or mid level US made DPMS/or some other make AR.Quoted: i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. I am actually surprised to see that the finish on the rifle looks better than anything I saw to come off Eastern Europe mills. there are AK-47 made in US after all (not that I would own one - I have a Russian made one) about the specs, the post was made by a respected enthusiast who is in close connection to manufacturer and production of this rifle was expected by many in Russia and Ukraine for some time now. Believe it or not, there is a very strong if small AR community there and up until now the only way to get an AR there was Norinco and some European clones. here are more pics: http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949163.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949165.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949161.jpg |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:27:45 PM EDT
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why does it look like shit? to me it looks no worse than entry level or mid level US made DPMS/or some other make AR.
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. I am actually surprised to see that the finish on the rifle looks better than anything I saw to come off Eastern Europe mills. there are AK-47 made in US after all (not that I would own one - I have a Russian made one) about the specs, the post was made by a respected enthusiast who is in close connection to manufacturer and production of this rifle was expected by many in Russia and Ukraine for some time now. Believe it or not, there is a very strong if small AR community there and up until now the only way to get an AR there was Norinco and some European clones. here are more pics: http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949163.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949165.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949161.jpg why exactly are you pushing this product so hard? you say it looks better than european clones, well i dont know about them. i would say it doesnt compare to a quality american made ar-15 how about this, give us better specs. chrome chamber doesnt mean shit. what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? the list could go on and on |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:32:12 PM EDT
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I will ask about the specs, I am not pushing anything, have no interest and this rifle will never be improtable to US anyway, just fending off automatic dismissal.
I will be back with specs |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 1:33:32 PM EDT
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haters gonna hate... OP is just showing something he finds interesting.
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Posted: 8/10/2011 2:54:00 PM EDT
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why does it look like shit? to me it looks no worse than entry level or mid level US made DPMS/or some other make AR.
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. I am actually surprised to see that the finish on the rifle looks better than anything I saw to come off Eastern Europe mills. there are AK-47 made in US after all (not that I would own one - I have a Russian made one) about the specs, the post was made by a respected enthusiast who is in close connection to manufacturer and production of this rifle was expected by many in Russia and Ukraine for some time now. Believe it or not, there is a very strong if small AR community there and up until now the only way to get an AR there was Norinco and some European clones. here are more pics: http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949163.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949165.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949161.jpg why exactly are you pushing this product so hard? you say it looks better than european clones, well i dont know about them. i would say it doesnt compare to a quality american made ar-15 how about this, give us better specs. chrome chamber doesnt mean shit. what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? the list could go on and on how about you settle down and stop being so harsh on the OP? 
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Posted: 8/10/2011 3:04:55 PM EDT
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haters gonna hate... OP is just showing something he finds interesting. +1 I find it interesting too. Wouldn't buy one if I could, but what the hell, it's not something you see every day. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 3:05:50 PM EDT
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why does it look like shit? to me it looks no worse than entry level or mid level US made DPMS/or some other make AR.
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. I am actually surprised to see that the finish on the rifle looks better than anything I saw to come off Eastern Europe mills. there are AK-47 made in US after all (not that I would own one - I have a Russian made one) about the specs, the post was made by a respected enthusiast who is in close connection to manufacturer and production of this rifle was expected by many in Russia and Ukraine for some time now. Believe it or not, there is a very strong if small AR community there and up until now the only way to get an AR there was Norinco and some European clones. here are more pics: http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949163.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949165.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949161.jpg why exactly are you pushing this product so hard? you say it looks better than european clones, well i dont know about them. i would say it doesnt compare to a quality american made ar-15 how about this, give us better specs. chrome chamber doesnt mean shit. what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? the list could go on and on how about you settle down and stop being so harsh on the OP?
ok maybe i was a little to harsh, but lets face it, we need specs if anyone is even gonna care about this rifle. if its made of pot metal it wont matter how shiny it is |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 3:07:26 PM EDT
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Why do I feel like Rick Astly is about to come out?
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Posted: 8/10/2011 3:11:36 PM EDT
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Why do I feel like Rick Astly is about to come out? "NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP" |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 3:15:03 PM EDT
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Wonder what it costs, converted to USD.
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Posted: 8/10/2011 3:22:24 PM EDT
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haters gonna hate... OP is just showing something he finds interesting. +1 i'm interested, and would buy one if i could. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 4:40:31 PM EDT
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why does it look like shit? to me it looks no worse than entry level or mid level US made DPMS/or some other make AR.
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. I am actually surprised to see that the finish on the rifle looks better than anything I saw to come off Eastern Europe mills. there are AK-47 made in US after all (not that I would own one - I have a Russian made one) about the specs, the post was made by a respected enthusiast who is in close connection to manufacturer and production of this rifle was expected by many in Russia and Ukraine for some time now. Believe it or not, there is a very strong if small AR community there and up until now the only way to get an AR there was Norinco and some European clones. here are more pics: http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949163.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949165.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949161.jpg why exactly are you pushing this product so hard? you say it looks better than european clones, well i dont know about them. i would say it doesnt compare to a quality american made ar-15 how about this, give us better specs. chrome chamber doesnt mean shit. what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? the list could go on and on how about you settle down and stop being so harsh on the OP?
ok maybe i was a little to harsh, but lets face it, we need specs if anyone is even gonna care about this rifle. if its made of pot metal it wont matter how shiny it is You can't buy it, so who cares? OP was just showing something he thought was interesting. Calm down. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 4:54:59 PM EDT
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Very interested in hearing more about this just for curiosity's sake.
Too bad the trolls are out in force. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 4:56:59 PM EDT
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Interested as well... Price?
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Posted: 8/10/2011 5:03:49 PM EDT
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Very interested in hearing more about this just for curiosity's sake. Too bad the trolls are out in force. Yep. Its a goddamn shame what the tech forums have become in the last year or so. Just like the fucking GD, without the moderation
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Posted: 8/10/2011 6:25:32 PM EDT
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I find the color godawful. But it's interesting to see more Europeans getting in on the awesomeness that is the ar.
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Posted: 8/10/2011 7:19:21 PM EDT
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Is the OP actually Hallstar trying to get people on board with some new rifle since we won't buy the "RRA is the best rifle in the world" line?
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Posted: 8/10/2011 7:29:25 PM EDT
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why does it look like shit? to me it looks no worse than entry level or mid level US made DPMS/or some other make AR.
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. I am actually surprised to see that the finish on the rifle looks better than anything I saw to come off Eastern Europe mills. there are AK-47 made in US after all (not that I would own one - I have a Russian made one) about the specs, the post was made by a respected enthusiast who is in close connection to manufacturer and production of this rifle was expected by many in Russia and Ukraine for some time now. Believe it or not, there is a very strong if small AR community there and up until now the only way to get an AR there was Norinco and some European clones. here are more pics: http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949163.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949165.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949161.jpg why exactly are you pushing this product so hard? you say it looks better than european clones, well i dont know about them. i would say it doesnt compare to a quality american made ar-15 how about this, give us better specs. chrome chamber doesnt mean shit. what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? the list could go on and on how about you settle down and stop being so harsh on the OP?
ok maybe i was a little to harsh, but lets face it, we need specs if anyone is even gonna care about this rifle. if its made of pot metal it wont matter how shiny it is You can't buy it, so who cares? OP was just showing something he thought was interesting. Calm down. lets see....technical forums.....specs, seems like they should go hand in hand. i dont care if i cant buy it, id still like to know the specs i mean the OP comes in here talking about this awsome commie ar-15 but doesnt give us anything for specs. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 7:44:45 PM EDT
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why does it look like shit? to me it looks no worse than entry level or mid level US made DPMS/or some other make AR.
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. I am actually surprised to see that the finish on the rifle looks better than anything I saw to come off Eastern Europe mills. there are AK-47 made in US after all (not that I would own one - I have a Russian made one) about the specs, the post was made by a respected enthusiast who is in close connection to manufacturer and production of this rifle was expected by many in Russia and Ukraine for some time now. Believe it or not, there is a very strong if small AR community there and up until now the only way to get an AR there was Norinco and some European clones. here are more pics: http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949163.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949165.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949161.jpg why exactly are you pushing this product so hard? you say it looks better than european clones, well i dont know about them. i would say it doesnt compare to a quality american made ar-15 how about this, give us better specs. chrome chamber doesnt mean shit. what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? the list could go on and on how about you settle down and stop being so harsh on the OP?
ok maybe i was a little to harsh, but lets face it, we need specs if anyone is even gonna care about this rifle. if its made of pot metal it wont matter how shiny it is You can't buy it, so who cares? OP was just showing something he thought was interesting. Calm down. lets see....technical forums.....specs, seems like they should go hand in hand. i dont care if i cant buy it, id still like to know the specs i mean the OP comes in here talking about this awsome commie ar-15 but doesnt give us anything for specs. I will be shocked if this thread is not locked or moved in the next few minutes. Read what this guy said to the OP. It was uncalled for and unproductive. OP is clearly fairly new. Being a jerk to him is obviously the best way to keep him aboard and contributing. Part of this being a tech forum is that people come here posting topics that get explored or ask questions that we try to find answers to. The OP says he merely saw this on some forum. That tells me that he DOESN'T KNOW what the specs are. How about you go find some specs on this gun. Instead of attempting to do that, you decided to get in on a dog pile on the OP because he posted a "commie weapon." Oh, wait, it's an AR-15. Made in a FORMER SOVIET country. So what, exactly, is commie about this gun? Don't lecture people about talking tech if you aren't going to attempt to do so yourself. OP touched on the obvious fact that there is no safety sear, but there is a hole for one. That's interesting. I wonder if it has a true semi-auto FCG or if it merely lacks the sear (plus either a weld on the selector or an actual semi selector. Is it forged or cast? What did they use as their pattern? Is it 5.56? When someone found out Ruger was making an AR, no one hounded the OP(s) for specs––we went out and found them ourselves. The way the OP was treated by the quoted poster (above us) was completely inappropriate for this forum. Let's end this now and actually discuss the rifle in the OP. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 7:47:01 PM EDT
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. I am actually surprised to see that the finish on the rifle looks better than anything I saw to come off Eastern Europe mills. there are AK-47 made in US after all (not that I would own one - I have a Russian made one) about the specs, the post was made by a respected enthusiast who is in close connection to manufacturer and production of this rifle was expected by many in Russia and Ukraine for some time now. Believe it or not, there is a very strong if small AR community there and up until now the only way to get an AR there was Norinco and some European clones. here are more pics: http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949163.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949165.jpg http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004949/4949161.jpg why exactly are you pushing this product so hard? you say it looks better than european clones, well i dont know about them. i would say it doesnt compare to a quality american made ar-15 how about this, give us better specs. chrome chamber doesnt mean shit. what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? the list could go on and on how about you settle down and stop being so harsh on the OP?
ok maybe i was a little to harsh, but lets face it, we need specs if anyone is even gonna care about this rifle. if its made of pot metal it wont matter how shiny it is You can't buy it, so who cares? OP was just showing something he thought was interesting. Calm down. lets see....technical forums.....specs, seems like they should go hand in hand. i dont care if i cant buy it, id still like to know the specs i mean the OP comes in here talking about this awsome commie ar-15 but doesnt give us anything for specs. I will be shocked if this thread is not locked or moved in the next few minutes. Read what this guy said to the OP. It was uncalled for and unproductive. OP is clearly fairly new. Being a jerk to him is obviously the best way to keep him aboard and contributing. Part of this being a tech forum is that people come here posting topics that get explored or ask questions that we try to find answers to. The OP says he merely saw this on some forum. That tells me that he DOESN'T KNOW what the specs are. How about you go find some specs on this gun. Instead of attempting to do that, you decided to get in on a dog pile on the OP because he posted a "commie weapon." Oh, wait, it's an AR-15. Made in a FORMER SOVIET country. So what, exactly, is commie about this gun? Don't lecture people about talking tech if you aren't going to attempt to do so yourself. OP touched on the obvious fact that there is no safety sear, but there is a hole for one. That's interesting. I wonder if it has a true semi-auto FCG or if it merely lacks the sear (plus either a weld on the selector or an actual semi selector. Is it forged or cast? What did they use as their pattern? Is it 5.56? When someone found out Ruger was making an AR, no one hounded the OP(s) for specs––we went out and found them ourselves. The way the OP was treated by the quoted poster (above us) was completely inappropriate for this forum. Let's end this now and actually discuss the rifle in the OP. thats why i asked the op what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 8:01:34 PM EDT
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thats why i asked the op what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? Oh, it was you––I didn't even pay attention to who was posting. You were way out of line. Be a man, apologize, and move on. You asked legit questions, but you were extremely offensive in how you did it. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 8:07:18 PM EDT
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thats why i asked the op what type of aluminum? how is it coated? what barrel steel? what twist rate? M4 feedramps? Oh, it was you––I didn't even pay attention to who was posting. You were way out of line. Be a man, apologize, and move on. You asked legit questions, but you were extremely offensive in how you did it. already said i was too harsh on the OP but id still like to see real specs on this thing |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 8:21:48 PM EDT
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Kind of strange AR. I would buy one if I could just for shits and giggles really.
Some of you are being a bit tough on the OP. It's cool to see this type of odd ball AR. And since we can never own one I don't see the OP as pushing anything. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 8:32:58 PM EDT
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Google translated, so...
Manufacturer: ZBROYAR Price: Authentication Required The basic version of a hunting rifle Z-15 based on the AR -15, manufactured in the USA (with standard automation and work freely posted barrel) Type Semi-automatic rifle, a gas outlet Caliber 223 Rem. Pitch of rifling: basic ninth " RRA barrel production length of 16 " Material Barrel Gun 4130stvolovaya CRMO steel burnishing. Chromium-plating Chrome-plated bore Metal Shop (10 - Charging) Upper / Lower Aluminum Alloy, Forged / anodizing Single Stage Trigger Configuration: 6-position telescopic buttstock, foregrip Quad-Rail. Powder coating the receiver, the color gray. Butt and handle black. Front and rear sights are not included. It is possible to pick up any configuration from the list of optional equipment, and camouflage paint layers cpetskomplektatsy Duracoat. Additional equipment (surcharge) Other calibers 7.62x39 6 SPS; (export 5.45 x39) Stainless Steel Barrel Pitch of rifling: 1 / 7 "or 1 / 12", length 13dyuymov Chrome frame slide Two Stage Trigger Piston system for the .223 Rem and other gauges Interchangeable barrel (not Upper) Upper included (Upper, the barrel 1 store) Upper included (Upper, trunk) in caliber .458 SOCOM Shop 10patr. Metal Shop 30patr. Metal or MagPull P-mag Device to reduce the sound level shot Removable front sight for Weaver bar. Removable rear sight on the bar Weaver carrying handle with full Spetskomplektatsiya (surcharge) handle MagPul AFG Angled Forend Grip Hogue pistol grip Ergo pistol grip butt MagPull PRS butt MagPull CTR flash suppressor Funnel (Funnel type Noveske KX3) Camouflage painting Duracoat - painted trunk, forearm, receiver, butt (surcharge) |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 8:34:47 PM EDT
[#42]
whats 4130 barrel steel
also, how are they getting all those american parts? |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 8:38:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Who knows, I guess wherever you go in the world you can get a kinda crappy AR now. :)
and............ In Soviet Russia, AR jams YOU! |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 8:39:13 PM EDT
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In Soviet Russia, AR jams YOU! 
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Posted: 8/10/2011 9:25:34 PM EDT
[#45]
LOL!
thanks for being considerate! I am pretty thick skinned, had been exposed to all kind of je..people through out 2 immigrations, and a few years in IDF, so no problem, don't get on the guy who asked for specs, I am interested myself. here is what the owner of this rifle posted to answer my question and I am actually disappointed he said literally: "all parts are manufactured by agreement or imported from RRA!"   I think, they get 80% lowers and finish them. also RRA uppers, LPK, 1:9 twist. Basically RRA AR with ZBROYAR engraving slapped on the 80% lower I am still trying to get more info |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 9:57:47 PM EDT
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LOL! thanks for being considerate! I am pretty thick skinned, had been exposed to all kind of je..people through out 2 immigrations, and a few years in IDF, so no problem, don't get on the guy who asked for specs, I am interested myself. here is what the owner of this rifle posted to answer my question and I am actually disappointed he said literally: "all parts are manufactured by agreement or imported from RRA!"
I think, they get 80% lowers and finish them. also RRA uppers, LPK, 1:9 twist. Basically RRA AR with ZBROYAR engraving slapped on the 80% lower I am still trying to get more info how is that possible? are we allowed to sell to them? |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 9:58:10 PM EDT
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i was not looking for certain response, and really was not planning to troll or insert double meaning. English is my second language and sometimes my skills betray me, though I think I still spell and write better than many US born people I know. I thought that AR-15 being produced in former Soviet Union country was topic deserving a discussion on the AR-15 forum. Especially AR with decent specs and seamingly good finish and components. I guess I was wrong, well, I will go back to my hole and let the paid members on this forum use their sarcastic acronims what did you expect? i mean honestly, its an american rifle, made in a soviet union. it honestly looks like shit to me, and just because its listed with specs doesnt mean it really has them. There are plenty of U.S. made AK pattern rifles floating around. Whats your point? And for that matter, "a soviet union" doesn't really exist anymore. Y'all need to be nice to OP. This is interesting. Apparently we arent the only ones that like to slather our rifles in rails. |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 10:00:27 PM EDT
[#48]
Holy Shit!
I just found out pricing and some more specs Basic model - forged RRA lower, anodized, RRA 16 inch lightweight profile midlength chromed lined 4130 Chrome-moly barrel 1:9 twist, basic M4 6-pos stock and M4 foreend - $2100! Proff model - forged RRA lower, anodized, RRA 16 inch HBAR profile midlength chromed lined 4130 Chrome-moly barrel 1:9 twist, FF quad rail foreend and 2 stage match trigger - "Call for pricing" |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 10:00:28 PM EDT
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Is the OP actually Hallstar trying to get people on board with some new rifle since we won't buy the "RRA is the best rifle in the world" line? 
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here is what the owner of this rifle posted to answer my question and I am actually disappointed he said literally: "all parts are manufactured by agreement or imported from RRA!"
I think, they get 80% lowers and finish them. also RRA uppers, LPK, 1:9 twist. Basically RRA AR with ZBROYAR engraving slapped on the 80% lower 
[sarcasm] This rifle is better than any Colt, DD or Spike's because it's made with RRA parts and it costs twice as much! [/sarcasm] |
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Posted: 8/10/2011 10:06:48 PM EDT
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Holy Shit! I just found out pricing and some more specs Basic model - forged RRA lower, anodized, RRA 16 inch lightweight profile midlength chromed lined 4130 Chrome-moly barrel 1:9 twist, basic M4 6-pos stock and M4 foreend - $2100! Proff model - forged RRA lower, anodized, RRA 16 inch HBAR profile midlength chromed lined 4130 Chrome-moly barrel 1:9 twist, FF quad rail foreend and 2 stage match trigger - "Call for pricing" bahahahahahahah, wheres hallstar when you need him, this has got to be the best rifle ever made.........BAHAHAHAHAHA  
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