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Posted: 12/14/2003 12:45:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2003 12:47:51 PM EDT by Gewehr3]






Link Posted: 12/14/2003 12:49:11 PM EDT
Nice pics.
Link Posted: 12/14/2003 1:13:35 PM EDT
i want one..........now.......DICK
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 1:59:11 PM EDT
After we mounted red dots over ACOGs now we can mount ACOGs over red dots...[:P][;)]
Link Posted: 12/18/2003 3:35:22 PM EDT
Cool....What's the model number? Availability?
those Back up sights look pretty useless.
What is the rail on the top for? What the hell is that football shaped thing on the side??
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 3:18:51 AM EDT
Any dealers know anything about this?
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 3:36:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 3:41:11 AM EDT
It looks like it´s prototype of new ER 3.5. I saw ER on local gunshow here and wrote the specs of that scope but it´s long gone and I don´t have search... [:(]

It seemed very rugged and it has very good optics. Only problem they still have (then) they haven´t had strong enough mount to take beating of the LMG´s

They tried Elcan mount but it wasn´t strong enough(!).

That´s what I was told.
MN
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 3:47:03 AM EDT
Swedish Army?

Sounds dangerous, 'ya.'

Truth is, I'd surrender faster to the Swedish Bikini Team.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 5:22:28 AM EDT
Maybe they should stick to making the optics and let others like ARMS, KAC and PRI make mounts for them.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 6:44:01 AM EDT
I like the way you can flip the Killflash out of the way but I don't like the integrated mount. I can't think of any use for the top rail either.

If they're looking to replace the M68 they'll have to do better.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 10:22:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2003 10:25:53 AM EDT by IronBalaclava]
Yeah, the integral mount does'nt look too great.
Looks like they took a few steps back with the hardware. Hardware store nuts?[%|]

I'm curious as to the advantages it has over an M68 CCO?
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 7:02:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Delta_3_63:
I like the way you can flip the Killflash out of the way but I don't like the integrated mount. I can't think of any use for the top rail either.

If they're looking to replace the M68 they'll have to do better.
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Top rail might be useful for IR flashlight etc. if you do not have a rail system.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:48:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2003 8:49:27 PM EDT by BusMaster007]
What firearm is it mounted TO?
Let me rephrase that:

To what firearm is the sight mounted?
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 10:40:09 PM EDT
Anyone know when the last time these guys were in a conflict? I would'nt rush in.

BTW Nice Pics
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 12:07:08 PM EDT
Argh! Red X's, I cant see the pictures [>(]
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 8:20:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By KZ45:
Anyone know when the last time these guys were in a conflict? I would'nt rush in.

BTW Nice Pics
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The last time they were in combat, didn't they have funny looking axes, and metal bowls on their heads with horns sticking out?
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 10:25:03 AM EDT
Well, no.  Sweden's last war was in 1814.
In war with France and Denmark, "The Napoleon War of King Karl XIV Johan".
Allied with Sweden: England, Russia, Austria and German states.
War campaign in Germany against Napoleon (France) and a war with Denmark.
The Swedish King, Karl XIV Johan, was Commander-in-chief of the allied Northern Army. That was an Army of 155.000 troopers.
Sweden also made an attack on Denmark (The danes were an allied of Napoleon).
Peace on January 15, 1814 in Kiel with Denmark.
Peace on May 30, 1814 in Paris with France.
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 11:23:50 AM EDT
They had these under the table last year at SHOT for discerning customers (I found out from Wes...)  When we looked at them to a man we started laughing - it had an C79/ELCAN mount.

I guess they wised up to the mount - but all in all I think they should stick to the 1x M2 's  and leave magnified optics to others.

Link Posted: 12/21/2003 4:37:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SuperChicken:
Argh! Red X's, I cant see the pictures [>(]
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Link Posted: 12/21/2003 5:05:17 PM EDT
External controls and very heavy for it's size.
Jack
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 9:08:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KevinB:
all I think they should stick to the 1x M2 's  and leave magnified optics to others.

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.......pertaining to the new Swedish Aimpoint being magnified or variable power?[>:/]

What's the scoop?
Link Posted: 12/21/2003 9:42:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Duffy:
Well, no.  Sweden's last war was in 1814.
In war with France and Denmark, "The Napoleon War of King Karl XIV Johan".
Allied with Sweden: England, Russia, Austria and German states.
War campaign in Germany against Napoleon (France) and a war with Denmark.
The Swedish King, Karl XIV Johan, was Commander-in-chief of the allied Northern Army. That was an Army of 155.000 troopers.
Sweden also made an attack on Denmark (The danes were an allied of Napoleon).
Peace on January 15, 1814 in Kiel with Denmark.
Peace on May 30, 1814 in Paris with France.
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Oh, in that case I'm sure these are top notch.

Sorry.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 5:55:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BusMaster007:
What firearm is it mounted TO?
Let me rephrase that:

To what firearm is the sight mounted?
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Really.
What GUN does the Swedish Army use?
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 5:58:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2003 6:19:07 PM EDT by Duffy]
I think it's a modified FNC, AK5.
[img]world.guns.ru/assault/ak5.jpg[/img]

KZ, it means nothing other than they were in wars well afdter the Viking raiding days.  They adopted the G3, then the FNC, but they did develope many great weapons like the Bofor gun and Carl Gustav AT missle. [img]home.st.net.au/~dunn/usarmy/strandgun01.jpg[/img]
[img]www.lssr.ca/carl_g.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 6:36:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2003 6:37:00 PM EDT by KevinB]
Technically the Garl G is not a missile - for it is not controlled after the shot it is a gun/RR.

:)

PS the one I saw at SHOT was 3.5x
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 7:12:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KevinB:

:)

PS the one I saw at SHOT was 3.5x
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[shock] well folks, there we have it.
Link Posted: 12/22/2003 7:16:49 PM EDT
Regarding the Carl Gustav 84mm RR

The M2 Carl Gustav is the primary section level anti-tank recoiless rifle which employs two kinds of ammunition for the weapon. The primary round is the High Explosive Anti-Tank commonly referrd to as HEAT. The effective range os this round of ammunition is 700m. The second round is the High Explosive Dual Purpose Round (HEDP). This round was specifically designed to destroy bunkers and fortified positions. The effective range of this ammunition is 500m. The Carl Gustav is best served by a two man crew. One fires the weapon and the other carries ammunitions and acts as the loader. The weapons is fitteed with iron sights, and it is equipped with a 2x optical sight with a 17 degree field of view. It can be fired from the standing, kneeling or prone position. When fired on flat surfaces, the weapon is supported by a flexible bipod mounted immediately in front of the shoulder
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:07:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Duffy:
I think it's a modified FNC, AK5.
[url]world.guns.ru/assault/ak5.jpg[/url]

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Heyyyyy, that's kinda like the gun AL PACINO used in HEAT!  Ain't it?! [;D]
Thank you.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:12:51 PM EDT
The US military call it the RAWS.
Jack
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:34:40 PM EDT
shows ya how much I know [bd]
Link Posted: 12/26/2003 9:41:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2003 9:46:08 PM EDT by KZ45]
Originally Posted By Duffy:

KZ, it means nothing other than they were in wars well afdter the Viking raiding days.  They adopted the G3, then the FNC, but they did develope many great weapons like the Bofor gun and Carl Gustav AT missle.
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Duffy, I was not saying that they could not build quality weapons because they have not been in a war for quite a while, but that everyone in the industry is finding that it is when a weapon, or sighting system is in combat for a while that the truth about it begins to come out,
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 5:04:09 AM EDT
[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/083407.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 5:07:00 AM EDT
[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/083409.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 5:13:45 AM EDT
[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/083410.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 5:17:35 AM EDT
[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/083412.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 5:53:01 AM EDT
Hm, what kind of backup sight is that, rear peep and front notch?[%|]  I also second a previous question, what are the football shaped thingies on the sides?
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 7:42:16 AM EDT
I like the look, just question the durability.  I'd like to hold one.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 7:51:41 AM EDT
Yuk.  Looks like the el cheapo $30 BSA red dot that Wal-Mart sells.  The mounts look about that quality, too.  I think I'll stick with the ARMS mounts and AMRS #40, and go ACOG for my magnified optic needs.  

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