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Posted: 5/11/2004 5:20:26 PM EST
I am new to this forum had a couple of guestions for you guys. I am in the process of buying my first Ar but not sure what company to buy from. My choices are Colt, Bushmaster,Armalite.Rock River arms, and DPMS all of them are around the same price and most have the same options are they all the same quality is it just a matter of personal opinion. Since i will be spending a lot of money want to make sure I get the most bang for my buck. I'm leaning right now towards the Bushmaster M-4 car or the Armalite s.o.f M-4. I neeed help deciding. Also can theese guns be fitted with a true CAR stock. Thanks for any help
Link Posted: 5/11/2004 5:26:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/11/2004 5:26:50 PM EST by s0ulzer0]
Any of those would be a great first choice - sorry, you'll have to decide what you like best.
Yes, any of those can have a "true CAR stock" put on AFTER the AWB sunsets.

Oh yeah - Welcome!

~ s0ulzer0
Link Posted: 5/11/2004 5:47:20 PM EST
Colt Rules.
Link Posted: 5/11/2004 6:25:51 PM EST
Black Label - Zakk Rules and by-the-way, Colt's are P.O.S. --- ROCK RIVER RULES!
Link Posted: 5/11/2004 6:30:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/11/2004 6:32:16 PM EST by M11293]
I would say... Colt but they tend to be really pricey for what you get. Bushmaster is probably beter since you get more bang for the buck; they are great guns. Don't forget RRA, really good price for what you get (also very good guns). DPMS is really good too, along with Armalite.

Ah...what the hell, they are all damn good!

Let's say................preference.

Oh, just something I have noticed, a lot of people will say that their rifle is best. Wonder why?
Link Posted: 5/11/2004 6:37:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/11/2004 6:55:22 PM EST by kingcleophus]
Can you specify what it was about the Bushmaster M4 C that stood out? What are you looking for in a first rifle?
Link Posted: 5/11/2004 6:51:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By Warshell61:
Black Label - Zakk Rules and by-the-way, Colt's are P.O.S. --- ROCK RIVER RULES!



Zakk Kicks ass, but Randy was the shit...what a sad day when we lost him.
Link Posted: 5/11/2004 6:52:54 PM EST
You can't go wrong with any of those rifles...you'll probably get more votes for the Bushy, but, really, you'll be well served by any of them.
Link Posted: 5/11/2004 6:54:20 PM EST
The are more Bushmasters around here, wonder why?
Link Posted: 5/11/2004 7:00:57 PM EST
...Reload, previously cowering in the back corner of the room, slips into a possition by the back exit door and then, at just the right moment yells out, "Colt Baby! Yah! Woo-Hoo!" before running out into the parking lot...
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 12:24:31 PM EST
Colt does rule! Also they are the Best!
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 12:55:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/12/2004 12:55:32 PM EST by CJan_NH]

Originally Posted By RAMBOSKY:
The are more Bushmasters around here, wonder why?


For the same reason Ford sells more Escorts than T-Birds
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 12:59:19 PM EST
I would steer clear of DPMS, I dont like rifles suited for .223. With RRA, BM, and Colt you can shoot 5.56 or .223. The DPMS I had sucked, but I have seen others that were fine. I got a lemon, so I am soured on them.
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 1:00:45 PM EST
I like my DPMS CAR15 HBAR. Excellent AR!!!
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 2:11:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By h8mtv:
I would steer clear of DPMS, I dont like rifles suited for .223. With RRA, BM, and Colt you can shoot 5.56 or .223. The DPMS I had sucked, but I have seen others that were fine. I got a lemon, so I am soured on them.



My DPMS has right on the lower rcvr. 223/5.56! So not all DPMS are for .223 only.
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 4:00:20 PM EST
I thought 5.56 or 223 was the same thing just that 5.56 was the NATO name for 223 just like 7.62 and .308 what gives there is no diference between the two cartridges.
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 4:06:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/12/2004 4:09:23 PM EST by leveractionjackson]
Well right now I have a Ruger mini-14 Ranch rifle and I am not happy with it the accuracy sucks even from a rest. I have always liked the CAR look but the Bushmaster has cromed barrel and forged upper and lower receiver and I hae never herd ant thing bad about them. My gunsmith told me what ever I do do not buy a Colt and I have herd that Armalites have poor fit and finish but I am just going by word of mouth. That is why kingcleophus i'm leaning toward Bushmaster
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 4:17:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/12/2004 4:18:07 PM EST by CJan_NH]

Originally Posted By leveractionjackson:
I thought 5.56 or 223 was the same thing just that 5.56 was the NATO name for 223 just like 7.62 and .308 what gives there is no diference between the two cartridges.


Not true, there is a difference.

From the AMMO ORACLE



"The chambers for .223 and 5.56 weapons are not the same either. Though the AR15 design provides an extremely strong action, high pressure signs on the brass and primers, extraction failures and cycling problems may be seen when firing hot 5.56 ammo in .223-chambered rifles. Military M16s and AR15s from Colt, Bushmaster, FN, DPMS, and some others, have the M16-spec chamber and should have no trouble firing hot 5.56 ammunition.

Military M16s have slightly more headspace and have a longer throat area, compared to the SAAMI .223 chamber spec, which was originally designed for bolt-action rifles. Commercial SAAMI-specification .223 chambers have a much shorter throat or leade and less freebore than the military chamber. Shooting 5.56 Mil-Spec ammo in a SAAMI-specification chamber can increase pressure dramatically, up to an additional 15,000 psi or more."
Link Posted: 5/12/2004 5:01:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By leveractionjackson:
Well right now I have a Ruger mini-14 Ranch rifle and I am not happy with it the accuracy sucks even from a rest. I have always liked the CAR look but the Bushmaster has cromed barrel and forged upper and lower receiver and I hae never herd ant thing bad about them. My gunsmith told me what ever I do do not buy a Colt and I have herd that Armalites have poor fit and finish but I am just going by word of mouth. That is why kingcleophus i'm leaning toward Bushmaster



Jackson, Good luck in your final decision. I have a Colt MT6400, and the Bushmaster M4carbine. I like them both. You know, on Sept. 14, the assault gun ban most likely goes away(expires); Perhaps you can hold off till then and get a M4C with the true telescopic stock, flash hider, and bayonet lug. Those will make the rifle you are looking for more military genuine.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 3:00:28 PM EST
buy a bushmaster

unless you're a colt fanatic or buying class III


You'll be more than satisfied with BUSHMASTER!
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 4:45:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By CJan_NH:

Originally Posted By RAMBOSKY:
The are more Bushmasters around here, wonder why?


For the same reason Ford sells more Escorts than T-Birds



or Chevrolet selling more Camaros than Corvettes...
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 4:50:22 PM EST
ford sells more escorts because the t-bird is grossly overppriced.so i agree with your point.
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:35:11 PM EST
i don't really know too much about ar15s. i just got my first one today-a rra tactical entry. they said 4 to 5 weeks, and it got here in 4 weeks-two days. i looks great and i put two thirty round labelles through it flawlessly. can't complain. again-i'm not an expert, but i'm really happy so far.....
Link Posted: 5/13/2004 5:50:31 PM EST
No reason not to be happy with the rifle you purchased. You made a good choice for a first rifle. You will hear us go back and forth on which company makes better rifles, truth is ALL the companys have a fault or two. As long as you are happy then call it good..
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