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Posted: 11/2/2014 8:50:28 PM EDT
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I'd go to palmettostatearmory.com and buy one of theirs.
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Posted: 11/2/2014 8:52:03 PM EDT
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I have narrowed it down to these three using some factors. Budget : $750 Needs : dust cover - quad rail - FA a plus but not needed Bushmaster Car15 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_1989/products_id/84820/Bushmaster+90870+CAR15+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16.5%22+Quad-Rail Core-15 TAC UL 2 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_1989/products_id/411554630/Core-15+TAC+UL+II+FDE+16%22+5.56+30%2B1 Mossberg MMR Tactical http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Rifles/Mossberg/Mossberg+MMR+Tactical+5+56+16+1-4+Barrel+Rifle+With+Sights+65014 If you had only these 3 rifles to choose from what would it be? One factor for these rifles is they are local and can have in my hands this week. Any advise is appreciated. if i had to choose one of those 3 and only one, i would do without until i saved a little extra cash to get a much better stick. |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 8:55:14 PM EDT
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Personally, I'd go with the Core 15. But that's only because I own about 4 of their guns and they are great. Good luck with your choice...
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Posted: 11/2/2014 9:00:18 PM EDT
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I have narrowed it down to these three using some factors. Budget : $750 Needs : dust cover - quad rail - FA a plus but not needed Bushmaster Car15 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_1989/products_id/84820/Bushmaster+90870+CAR15+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16.5%22+Quad-Rail Core-15 TAC UL 2 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_1989/products_id/411554630/Core-15+TAC+UL+II+FDE+16%22+5.56+30%2B1 Mossberg MMR Tactical http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Rifles/Mossberg/Mossberg+MMR+Tactical+5+56+16+1-4+Barrel+Rifle+With+Sights+65014 If you had only these 3 rifles to choose from what would it be? One factor for these rifles is they are local and can have in my hands this week. Any advise is appreciated. None of the above, avoid the Carbon 15 at all costs, the Core would be better and forget about the Mossberg. For $50 bucks more (plus FFL fee) get this http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STR5035MLS&name=Spikes+Tactical+5.56%2f.223+16%22+Midlength+Rifle&groupid=11 In your budget get this http://grabagun.com/palmetto-state-armory-m4-16-556-mil-spec.html |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 9:37:39 PM EDT
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None of the above, avoid the Carbon 15 at all costs, the Core would be better and forget about the Mossberg. For $50 bucks more (plus FFL fee) get this http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STR5035MLS&name=Spikes+Tactical+5.56%2f.223+16%22+Midlength+Rifle&groupid=11 |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 9:44:55 PM EDT
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THIS None of the above, avoid the Carbon 15 at all costs, the Core would be better and forget about the Mossberg. For $50 bucks more (plus FFL fee) get this http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STR5035MLS&name=Spikes+Tactical+5.56%2f.223+16%22+Midlength+Rifle&groupid=11 Definitely this. You can always save up for a quad rail later. Tomac |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 9:48:15 PM EDT
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The Core-15 TAC, by far
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Posted: 11/2/2014 10:35:57 PM EDT
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Get the Spikes. Or any S&W M&P 15 that your local dealer has that is in your budget.
Its a bit more, but if I were buying my first AR today I'd save for the M&P 15 Mid Magpul Edition. You get the incredible 16" middie gas port, 5R rifling, 1:8 milonite barrel, good cholce of Magpul furniture, and some of the nicest fit and finish available. S&W has superb customer service way beyond the companies you are considering. 've seen them at $900 recently. Shop around. Its a buyer's market now. You can add a quad or modular rail later. |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 10:38:04 PM EDT
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I try not to be one of those guys who recommends something other than the options provided, buuuuuut........ I would skip all three of those. If it was me, I would put together a PSA midlength and call it good. A Spikes lower with PSA upper can be had in that range too, and would be far above and beyond those you have mentioned in quality.
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Posted: 11/2/2014 10:44:22 PM EDT
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If I had to pick one of those three, I would pick the Core 15.
That's staying within your parameters. But if you check some of the local Wal-marts in your area, you might find out you can get into a Sig M400 or a Colt for only a little bit more. |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 10:50:52 PM EDT
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Of those 3 options, the CORE 15 would be a no-brianer.
Having said that, $750 will easily get you into a premium PSA or no frills BCM upper, lower of your choice, and decent furniture. If you're dead set on buying an assembled rifle and the M&P sport is off the table, I'd probably go with the PSA offerings. Tough to beat this one: http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/firearms/rifles/palmetto-state-armory/psa-16-stainless-mid-length-1-7-freedom-carbine.html I have a couple of their "Freedom" uppers, absolutely no complaints. |
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Posted: 11/2/2014 10:52:28 PM EDT
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Stags are 100$ more. My 2¢
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Posted: 11/3/2014 12:06:34 AM EDT
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I have not followed what steels everyone is using but whatever rifle you intend to buy should have a barrel made of Mil 11559 chrome lined forged steel, a carpenter steel 158 bolt and forged receivers. In other words buy a rifle made from mil spec not commercial parts. I believe that the Bushmasters, DPMS, Stag and S&W's are all manufactured using commercial parts. Colt and Windham use MIl spec parts.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 12:21:47 AM EDT
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I think I am leaning to the Core-15 out of these 3.
But now you guys have me thinking I should take the $50 i have for extra mags and put it towards the gun. This is all my budget.I would have to wait a long time before i could add to it. Same deal, if had to choose between these three... Smith & Wesson M&P15 Optics Ready http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Rifles/Smith+Wesson/Smith+Wesson+M+P15+Optics+Ready+5+56+16+Rifle+811003 Stag Arms Stag Model 2 http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Rifles/Stag/Stag+Model+2+5+56+16+Rifle Anderson M4 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_1989/products_id/72728/Anderson+M4+Semi-Automatic+223+Remington5.56+NATO+30%2B1+Capa That Anderson it sounding good with that RF-85 coating and quad rail fore end. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 12:36:23 AM EDT
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You can grab a Windham Weaponry carbon fiber with life time warranty for 650ish. Or an aluminum model for 7-800 depending on your source.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 12:36:39 AM EDT
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I have not followed what steels everyone is using but whatever rifle you intend to buy should have a barrel made of Mil 11559 chrome lined forged steel, a carpenter steel 158 bolt and forged receivers. In other words buy a rifle made from mil spec not commercial parts. I believe that the Bushmasters, DPMS, Stag and S&W's are all manufactured using commercial parts. Colt and Windham use MIl spec parts. I have seen some Windhams (Carbon Fiber?) in my budget range.Are they built as good as the colts? I wish i could afford a colt with a dust cover. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 1:10:30 AM EDT
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I have seen some Windhams (Carbon Fiber?) in my budget range.Are they built as good as the colts? I wish i could afford a colt with a dust cover. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have not followed what steels everyone is using but whatever rifle you intend to buy should have a barrel made of Mil 11559 chrome lined forged steel, a carpenter steel 158 bolt and forged receivers. In other words buy a rifle made from mil spec not commercial parts. I believe that the Bushmasters, DPMS, Stag and S&W's are all manufactured using commercial parts. Colt and Windham use MIl spec parts. I have seen some Windhams (Carbon Fiber?) in my budget range.Are they built as good as the colts? I wish i could afford a colt with a dust cover. The fact that you keep bringing up the carbon fiber models tells me that you are new to the AR... I would take a M&P 15 Sport over the carbon models... matter of fact, with your budget, the Sport should be on your list. What do you think the dust cover buys you? You can get a Sport for $550 or less, leaving money for extra mags and ammo in your budget. I would go with this over the OR as well, since the OR doesn't come with sights. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 2:00:20 AM EDT
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I think I am leaning to the Core-15 out of these 3. But now you guys have me thinking I should take the $50 i have for extra mags and put it towards the gun. This is all my budget.I would have to wait a long time before i could add to it. Same deal, if had to choose between these three... Smith & Wesson M&P15 Optics Ready http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Rifles/Smith+Wesson/Smith+Wesson+M+P15+Optics+Ready+5+56+16+Rifle+811003 Stag Arms Stag Model 2 http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Rifles/Stag/Stag+Model+2+5+56+16+Rifle Anderson M4 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_1989/products_id/72728/Anderson+M4+Semi-Automatic+223+Remington5.56+NATO+30%2B1+Capa That Anderson it sounding good with that RF-85 coating and quad rail fore end. I'm guessing since your posting hotlinks that your looking at buying online. Of the 3 there the S&W would be the best choice, problem is no iron sights that model so you have to add those. if your on that tight of a budget here's my suggestion http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/1213/category/4282/ That will be the part you'll need to run through a FFL, with shipping but excluding FFL that will run you $176.99 right now as I type. http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-m4-16-cmv-cl-stripped-upper-with-bcg-and-charging-handle-1.html That will be a complete upper with bolt carrier group and charging handle. That can ship to you direct and as of now they are offering free shipping So far we're spent $536.99 sans FFL for the lower, you'll need a rear sight for the upper http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/sights-optics/rifle-iron-sights/magpul.html You can either buy a magpul that is in stock at PSA or get one at a local gun shop. I actually suggest the later since that might add to any PSA shipping fees....figure $60 bucks for that. That brings us to about $600.00 spent, leaving you $150.00 bucks in your budget for mags. This would get you a better quality rifle than any you've suggested so far and keep you on your $750.00 dollar budget This would be a good bargain for mags if you live in a state where you can own 30 rounders http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/1239/category/198/ |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 3:18:59 AM EDT
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I still haven't figured out these threads where guys are asking for advice, yet have already limited their choices to two or three of the shittiest rifles in their price range and don't want to hear about better options that might be out there.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 5:28:17 AM EDT
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I could not agree more with everyone who has posted. For your own good; PLEASE don't spend your money on ANY of those. ESPECIALLY the BM Carbon 15 followed closely by the Mossberg (their ARs are not like their shotguns...)
If you absolutely CANNOT spend more than $750, I would absolutely pick up a Smith and Wesson M&P15 Sport for about $550-$600, a few Magpul PMAGS, a sling, and as much ammunition as you can get with the remainder. Second option would be to save a couple hundred more dollars and get a Colt 6920. Well worth the wait. Good luck LV. Be patient, research, and keep us posted. This is not the think to impulse buy and settle-for with. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:02:28 AM EDT
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I have not followed what steels everyone is using but whatever rifle you intend to buy should have a barrel made of Mil 11559 chrome lined forged steel, a carpenter steel 158 bolt and forged receivers. In other words buy a rifle made from mil spec not commercial parts. I believe that the Bushmasters, DPMS, Stag and S&W's are all manufactured using commercial parts. Colt and Windham use MIl spec parts. Completely wrong on S&W, which meets or exceeds milspec. I would trade three milspec chrome lined barrels for one 4150 CMV, 5R rifled, 1:8 twist, melonite, middie gas port barrel that is on many M&P 15s. Their BCG and trigger group parts are fully milspec, as is the buffer tube, and everything else I can think of. Their milspec triggers are noted for smoothness. Fit and finish are way ahead of Colt. Only the budget Sport lacks a dust cover and forward assist, but it is otherwise milspec, but for the melonite barrel, which is objectively equal in durability, if not better, and highly likely to be more accurate. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:06:55 AM EDT
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of those 3, the core or Mossberg
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:10:05 AM EDT
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None of the above. Buy a BCM upper and put it on a PSA lower. Should bring you right to $750 shipped.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:11:10 AM EDT
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Second option would be to save a couple hundred more dollars and get a Colt 6920. Well worth the wait. There are 6920s that come up pretty regularly for $800-850. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 10:46:42 AM EDT
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Completely wrong on S&W, which meets or exceeds milspec. I would trade three milspec chrome lined barrels for one 4150 CMV, 5R rifled, 1:8 twist, melonite, middie gas port barrel that is on many M&P 15s. Their BCG and trigger group parts are fully milspec, as is the buffer tube, and everything else I can think of. Their milspec triggers are noted for smoothness. Fit and finish are way ahead of Colt. Only the budget Sport lacks a dust cover and forward assist, but it is otherwise milspec, but for the melonite barrel, which is objectively equal in durability, if not better, and highly likely to be more accurate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have not followed what steels everyone is using but whatever rifle you intend to buy should have a barrel made of Mil 11559 chrome lined forged steel, a carpenter steel 158 bolt and forged receivers. In other words buy a rifle made from mil spec not commercial parts. I believe that the Bushmasters, DPMS, Stag and S&W's are all manufactured using commercial parts. Colt and Windham use MIl spec parts. Completely wrong on S&W, which meets or exceeds milspec. I would trade three milspec chrome lined barrels for one 4150 CMV, 5R rifled, 1:8 twist, melonite, middie gas port barrel that is on many M&P 15s. Their BCG and trigger group parts are fully milspec, as is the buffer tube, and everything else I can think of. Their milspec triggers are noted for smoothness. Fit and finish are way ahead of Colt. Only the budget Sport lacks a dust cover and forward assist, but it is otherwise milspec, but for the melonite barrel, which is objectively equal in durability, if not better, and highly likely to be more accurate. Ummm, no. The 4150 barrel is only on the two top of the line S&W's, the MOE Mid and the VTAC II. The rest of the line up have 4140 barrels, either chrome lined or with Melonite. The BCG is the semi auto variety, so it is not mil-spec either. The receiver extension is mil spec dimensions, but I don't know about materials. All said though, S&W still builds a good AR and backs them up with lifetime service. I've had the Sport for a few years now, and it has been a good rifle. No complaints. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 11:08:30 AM EDT
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I still haven't figured out these threads where guys are asking for advice, yet have already limited their choices to two or three of the shittiest rifles in their price range and don't want to hear about better options that might be out there. The only thing I can figure out is they don't have a FFL willing to do the transfer for them, or that local shop salesman said "don't listen to those people online, they don't know their ass from a whole in the ground" |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 11:10:35 AM EDT
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None of the above. Buy a BCM upper and put it on a PSA lower. Should bring you right to $750 shipped. I thought about that also but if $50.00 was going to break his budget for the Spikes I linked then he's better off with the PSA upper sale I linked, it leaves him room for mags and maybe ammo. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 12:53:31 PM EDT
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I have seen some Windhams (Carbon Fiber?) in my budget range.Are they built as good as the colts? I wish i could afford a colt with a dust cover. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have not followed what steels everyone is using but whatever rifle you intend to buy should have a barrel made of Mil 11559 chrome lined forged steel, a carpenter steel 158 bolt and forged receivers. In other words buy a rifle made from mil spec not commercial parts. I believe that the Bushmasters, DPMS, Stag and S&W's are all manufactured using commercial parts. Colt and Windham use MIl spec parts. I have seen some Windhams (Carbon Fiber?) in my budget range.Are they built as good as the colts? I wish i could afford a colt with a dust cover. Heck no. Not even close. You're comparing a Kia to an Audi. Avoid plastic AR's (see also: polymer, carbon, etc) at all costs. They are junk and WILL break on you. I have seen it happen with my own eyes twice. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 1:26:23 PM EDT
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Heck no. Not even close. You're comparing a Kia to an Audi. Avoid plastic AR's (see also: polymer, carbon, etc) at all costs. They are junk and WILL break on you. I have seen it happen with my own eyes twice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have not followed what steels everyone is using but whatever rifle you intend to buy should have a barrel made of Mil 11559 chrome lined forged steel, a carpenter steel 158 bolt and forged receivers. In other words buy a rifle made from mil spec not commercial parts. I believe that the Bushmasters, DPMS, Stag and S&W's are all manufactured using commercial parts. Colt and Windham use MIl spec parts. I have seen some Windhams (Carbon Fiber?) in my budget range.Are they built as good as the colts? I wish i could afford a colt with a dust cover. Heck no. Not even close. You're comparing a Kia to an Audi. Avoid plastic AR's (see also: polymer, carbon, etc) at all costs. They are junk and WILL break on you. I have seen it happen with my own eyes twice. kia to audi? kia to chevy maybe 
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Posted: 11/3/2014 2:36:38 PM EDT
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Get the SPIKES Tactical rifle, it's superior to all those other rifles and only $50 more, it's a NO brainer. Softer shooting midlength and all the right 'specs', built like a tank etc etc...don't skimp on quality, you'll always regret it.
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THIS None of the above, avoid the Carbon 15 at all costs, the Core would be better and forget about the Mossberg. For $50 bucks more (plus FFL fee) get this http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STR5035MLS&name=Spikes+Tactical+5.56%2f.223+16%22+Midlength+Rifle&groupid=11 |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 2:38:27 PM EDT
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http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/1213/?utm_source=DAILY+DEAL%3A+5.56%2C+12GA+Buckshot%2C+Sig+238+%24419.99+%26+More&utm_campaign=Constant+Contact&utm_medium=email
Ok, PSA dropped the price of their complete lower again, it's now $130.00 plus shipping and FFL. Not counting shipping and FFL I can get a complete AR better quality than any the OP has mentioned for $490.00 sans rear sight and mags http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-m4-16-cmv-cl-stripped-upper-with-bcg-and-charging-handle-1.html |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 3:37:04 PM EDT
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Get the SPIKES Tactical rifle, it's superior to all those other rifles and only $50 more, it's a NO brainer. Softer shooting midlength and all the right 'specs', built like a tank etc etc...don't skimp on quality, you'll always regret it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Get the SPIKES Tactical rifle, it's superior to all those other rifles and only $50 more, it's a NO brainer. Softer shooting midlength and all the right 'specs', built like a tank etc etc...don't skimp on quality, you'll always regret it. Quoted:
THIS None of the above, avoid the Carbon 15 at all costs, the Core would be better and forget about the Mossberg. For $50 bucks more (plus FFL fee) get this http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STR5035MLS&name=Spikes+Tactical+5.56%2f.223+16%22+Midlength+Rifle&groupid=11 I agree with this or get if OP has to stick those three then he should get the core or the mossberg. If money is truly the root cause for choosing, I'd go smith and wesson |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 4:06:59 PM EDT
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None of the above. Buy a BCM upper and put it on a PSA lower. Should bring you right to $750 shipped. This is also another great option. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 4:09:24 PM EDT
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None of the above. Buy a BCM upper and put it on a PSA lower. Should bring you right to $750 shipped. This is also another great option. yep it is |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 6:57:06 PM EDT
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Ok I'm going to sell off one off my pistols to a buddy for $200.That will bring my budget up to $1000
I really just want to buy a company manufactured gun with one warranty.I don't want to build or piece one together. I'm looking to buy from one of my local gun shops.(hence the buds links) I've bought a few guns there. I think I found me a colt. Colt Rifle CRX16 Marksman http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_140/products_id/89829/Colt+Rifle+CRX16+Marksman+CRX-16+SA+223+Remington5.56+NATO But what do you guys think about these two? Sig Sauer RM400 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_397/products_id/716007734/Sig+Sauer+RM400-16B-B5-FOL+M400+B5+Foliage+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 S&W M&P15 Mid-Length MOE http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_763_977/products_id/80162/S%26W+M%26P15+Mid-Length+MOE+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 Hey and thank you all for driving my budget up 
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Posted: 11/3/2014 7:00:56 PM EDT
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I think you could find a Colt LE6920 for under 1,000 dollars and I know that a Colt 6720 can be had for well under that amount. Its the same as the 6920 but with a lightweight barrel. I think you're on the right track now.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 7:08:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you could find a Colt LE6920 for under 1,000 dollars and I know that a Colt 6720 can be had for well under that amount. Its the same as the 6920 but with a lightweight barrel. I think you're on the right track now. But now it's November... Unless you have a pressing need for a rifle right now, you might want to wait and see what christmas sales pop up.
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Posted: 11/3/2014 7:24:25 PM EDT
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Ok I'm going to sell off one off my pistols to a buddy for $200.That will bring my budget up to $1000 I really just want to buy a company manufactured gun with one warranty.I don't want to build or piece one together. I'm looking to buy from one of my local gun shops.(hence the buds links) I've bought a few guns there. I think I found me a colt. Colt Rifle CRX16 Marksman http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_140/products_id/89829/Colt+Rifle+CRX16+Marksman+CRX-16+SA+223+Remington5.56+NATO But what do you guys think about these two? Sig Sauer RM400 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_397/products_id/716007734/Sig+Sauer+RM400-16B-B5-FOL+M400+B5+Foliage+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 S&W M&P15 Mid-Length MOE http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_763_977/products_id/80162/S%26W+M%26P15+Mid-Length+MOE+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 Hey and thank you all for driving my budget up I think you are buying based on the looks and the extras added to the rifle, and not paying attention to the materials that make up the rifle. |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 8:03:03 PM EDT
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Colt SOCOMs have been on sale for $899 shipped twice in the last two weeks and this conversation is actually happening?
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Posted: 11/3/2014 8:14:30 PM EDT
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Here we go for budget builds:
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=16809966&DeviceOptOut=1 |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 8:17:35 PM EDT
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Colt SOCOMs have been on sale for $899 shipped twice in the last two weeks and this conversation is actually happening? Twice? |
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Posted: 11/3/2014 8:38:18 PM EDT
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I'd go to palmettostatearmory.com and buy one of theirs. Colt 6720. Done. ETA: nevermind, looks like they're gone.  They were $799 the other day. http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/colt-ar-15-5-56nato-16-carbine-pencil-barrel.html
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Posted: 11/3/2014 8:39:56 PM EDT
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Ok I'm going to sell off one off my pistols to a buddy for $200.That will bring my budget up to $1000 I really just want to buy a company manufactured gun with one warranty.I don't want to build or piece one together. I'm looking to buy from one of my local gun shops.(hence the buds links) I've bought a few guns there. I think I found me a colt. Colt Rifle CRX16 Marksman http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_140/products_id/89829/Colt+Rifle+CRX16+Marksman+CRX-16+SA+223+Remington5.56+NATO But what do you guys think about these two? Sig Sauer RM400 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_397/products_id/716007734/Sig+Sauer+RM400-16B-B5-FOL+M400+B5+Foliage+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 S&W M&P15 Mid-Length MOE http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_763_977/products_id/80162/S%26W+M%26P15+Mid-Length+MOE+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 Hey and thank you all for driving my budget up I think you are buying based on the looks and the extras added to the rifle, and not paying attention to the materials that make up the rifle. What he says, again I would suggest with your new budget get the Spikes from Aim Surplus, use the new found extra money for magazines Add on features you can change as you get extra money, your seeing rifles online that looks "tacticool " but are less rifle than what people are suggesting Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 6:00:23 AM EDT
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I need to crawl out from under my rock more often. I had no idea that the SOCOM had been offered at that price. I am looking to add another boomstick to my home, and was debating on a standard LE6920 to replace my old one. Cheapest I have found for it has been $899.00. Where are/were the SOCOM versions available for that price?
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Posted: 11/4/2014 7:20:50 AM EDT
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Colt SOCOMs have been on sale for $899 shipped twice in the last two weeks and this conversation is actually happening? Twice? Pretty much. Once as a stand alone rifle and second as a kit with an ACOG and a Pelican style case for $1899 shipped. Made the price of the rifle about probably less than $899. There is a big thread in GD somewhere about it. And in the Colt industry forum. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 9:45:15 AM EDT
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OP: The M&P 15 Mid Magpul Edition is what you want. The barrel is sheer perfection. 5R rifling. 1:8 twist. CMV 4150 steel. 16" mid gas port. Melonite to preserve that incredible rifling unaltered, and superb resistance to corrosion and wear. Smith may have come to ARs a bit late, but it sure brought its "A" game.
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Posted: 11/4/2014 9:53:37 AM EDT
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I need to crawl out from under my rock more often. I had no idea that the SOCOM had been offered at that price. I am looking to add another boomstick to my home, and was debating on a standard LE6920 to replace my old one. Cheapest I have found for it has been $899.00. Where are/were the SOCOM versions available for that price? had kac rails too |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 11:51:22 AM EDT
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Ok I'm going to sell off one off my pistols to a buddy for $200.That will bring my budget up to $1000 I really just want to buy a company manufactured gun with one warranty.I don't want to build or piece one together. I'm looking to buy from one of my local gun shops.(hence the buds links) I've bought a few guns there. I think I found me a colt. Colt Rifle CRX16 Marksman http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_140/products_id/89829/Colt+Rifle+CRX16+Marksman+CRX-16+SA+223+Remington5.56+NATO But what do you guys think about these two? Sig Sauer RM400 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_397/products_id/716007734/Sig+Sauer+RM400-16B-B5-FOL+M400+B5+Foliage+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 S&W M&P15 Mid-Length MOE http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_763_977/products_id/80162/S%26W+M%26P15+Mid-Length+MOE+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 Hey and thank you all for driving my budget up The "colt" ain't a Colt manufactured rifle, it's a 3rd party rifle....just say NO. The S&W is a middy like that Spikes I linked, but your better off getting the Spikes. The only thing your getting with the $160 dollar difference is the Magpul add on's , you can get those and add them yourself much cheaper. The Sigs are the same, and odds are you can get those cheaper at a Walmart if there is one near you that sells rifles. Bottom line is again if you want a factory rifle with no hassle of matching uppers and lowers the Spikes is now your best bet in the $1000 price range you now have, even with FFL fees you would have $150 bucks left in you budget for mags. IGNORE THE TACTICOOL CRAP FOR NOW, Your budget doesn't allow it and that stuff can be added as funds allow down the road. I'll show you. 
This is basically how most of my AR's looked when I bought them, pictured is a PSA 16" cold hammer forged I built back in the spring for $656.00 bucks total counting FFL 
This is a similar AR I built as my 1st AR 2012, about $700.00 spent then.....it started the same as the one above it. I added Magpul goodies as I saw sales over time, and didn't spend more than $100 bucks total for all of those pictured. You can do the same, buy the no frills rifle now and add what you want when you have funds. If you try to buy a "off the shelf" AR with all the bells and whistles now all you do is waste what money you have and get a lesser rifle in return. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:14:27 PM EDT
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. . . The S&W is a middy like that Spikes I linked, but your better off getting the Spikes. The only thing your getting with the $160 dollar difference is the Magpul add on's , you can get those and add them yourself much cheaper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ok I'm going to sell off one off my pistols to a buddy for $200.That will bring my budget up to $1000 I really just want to buy a company manufactured gun with one warranty.I don't want to build or piece one together. I'm looking to buy from one of my local gun shops.(hence the buds links) I've bought a few guns there. I think I found me a colt. Colt Rifle CRX16 Marksman http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_140/products_id/89829/Colt+Rifle+CRX16+Marksman+CRX-16+SA+223+Remington5.56+NATO But what do you guys think about these two? Sig Sauer RM400 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_397/products_id/716007734/Sig+Sauer+RM400-16B-B5-FOL+M400+B5+Foliage+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 S&W M&P15 Mid-Length MOE http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_763_977/products_id/80162/S%26W+M%26P15+Mid-Length+MOE+30%2B1+223REM5.56NATO+16%22 Hey and thank you all for driving my budget up . . . The S&W is a middy like that Spikes I linked, but your better off getting the Spikes. The only thing your getting with the $160 dollar difference is the Magpul add on's , you can get those and add them yourself much cheaper. I love Spikes, and have one of their uppers. But, with respect, the main difference is not the Magpul add on's. That is NOT the ONLY thing OP would get: It is that incredible barrel: 5R rifling. 1:8 twist, CMV 4150 steel and the melonite treatment to preserve the accuracy of that rifling along with superior corrosion protection inside and out and super hard surface resistance to wear. That is one of the best 16" carbine profle middie gassed barrels that money can buy. Period. I'd pay the extra $160 in a heartbeat for that barrel, even if the good Magpul furniture was not also being used. |
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Posted: 11/4/2014 4:22:27 PM EDT
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It would be hard to beat the new Ruger that just came out. It's the AR-556 (NOT the SR-556)
Street price is around $600 and it is truly a quality gun. cap |
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