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Posted: 12/8/2013 4:29:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/8/2013 4:31:03 PM EST by Finslayer83]
My 11" vtac wont work as planned on my 11.5" SBR build.

More or less due to suppressor / mount clearance.

So 10" rails are what I need. Ideally is love a 10" vtac, but they are not made.

So..... What 10" rails should I look at?

Eta: anyone cut down a vtac?
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 4:36:22 PM EST
This is my next one: URX 4
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 4:40:37 PM EST
Midwest GEN2 SS.

Cutting a vtac/troy back to 10" would leave some of the vent holes open-ended on the front.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 4:41:26 PM EST
KAC URX 4 10" for the win.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 4:41:34 PM EST
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Interesting.

I'm interested in the mounting system.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 4:44:28 PM EST
Samson evolution
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:10:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Midwest GEN2 SS.

Cutting a vtac/troy back to 10" would leave some of the vent holes open-ended on the front.
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How strong is the gen 2 mounting system on the t series and ss series?

It looks like others are moving away from the clamping system.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:17:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
My 11" vtac wont work as planned on my 11.5" SBR build.

More or less due to suppressor / mount clearance.

So 10" rails are what I need. Ideally is love a 10" vtac, but they are not made.

So..... What 10" rails should I look at?

Eta: anyone cut down a vtac?
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Samson Evolution 10" is one of my favorites, and has a large ID for suppressors that fit inside the HG. Bulletproof mount and construction.

GSM
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:19:14 PM EST
I believe that Nordic components' mid length tube is 9.75 inches.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:23:21 PM EST
How is the centurion 10" C4?
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:33:45 PM EST
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How is the centurion 10" C4?
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I'm running the 12" on 2 different rifles and I like 'em. They aren't the lightest, but they aren't heavy and they work.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:35:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
How is the centurion 10" C4?
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My comment on the Gen2 SS was based on the similarity between it and the vtac.

If I were looking for a 10 inch rail, the C4 would be it. I had the c4 midlength cut-out and regret selling it.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:37:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
My comment on the Gen2 SS was based on the similarity between it and the vtac.

If I were looking for a 10 inch rail, the C4 would be it. I had the c4 midlength cut-out and regret selling it.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
How is the centurion 10" C4?
My comment on the Gen2 SS was based on the similarity between it and the vtac.

If I were looking for a 10 inch rail, the C4 would be it. I had the c4 midlength cut-out and regret selling it.


10-4.

I do like tubes better than a quad.

This is frustrating.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:39:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/8/2013 5:41:02 PM EST by drop11]
I was gonna recommend the centurion to you but I thought you wanted a slick side for some reason. Centurion makes excellent rails. I'm running the 12" and have been for almost 9 months I think. Its been perfect to me. I'll be picking up a 10" right after christams for a new build.

Something to note. As far as quad rails go the c4 is one of the thinnest .
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:50:42 PM EST
Yeah at 2" I think the centurion is leading the pack now.

I like the standard barrel nut design.

Buy once - cry once seems to apply here for this.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:52:56 PM EST
SLR makes a pretty rugged 10" rail.

Link Posted: 12/8/2013 5:55:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Yeah at 2" I think the centurion is leading the pack now.

I like the standard barrel nut design.

Buy once - cry once seems to apply here for this.
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DD has one slimmer. I don't remember which one and whether or not it is a free float.
I really can't say enough good about the C4 though. Easy on. Easy off for things like cleaning the barrel and lubing it. I know its subjective but I also think its the best looking quad out there as well.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 6:12:06 PM EST
I have a C4 9". It's not a bad rail, but it never struck me as super skinny. I will say that it is ridiculously solid, and easy to install.





Link Posted: 12/8/2013 6:14:09 PM EST
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DD has one slimmer. I don't remember which one and whether or not it is a free float.
I really can't say enough good about the C4 though. Easy on. Easy off for things like cleaning the barrel and lubing it. I know its subjective but I also think its the best looking quad out there as well.
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Originally Posted By drop11:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Yeah at 2" I think the centurion is leading the pack now.

I like the standard barrel nut design.

Buy once - cry once seems to apply here for this.



DD has one slimmer. I don't remember which one and whether or not it is a free float.
I really can't say enough good about the C4 though. Easy on. Easy off for things like cleaning the barrel and lubing it. I know its subjective but I also think its the best looking quad out there as well.
Aside from the RIS II, I agree. And centurion definitely has DD beat in the weight dept.
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 6:49:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/8/2013 6:49:44 PM EST by survivorman]
I run the 10in C4s and love them......solid and super easy to install
Link Posted: 12/8/2013 8:29:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/8/2013 8:35:24 PM EST by LMTRocks]
Fin-
You got the YHM QD 5.56?

It will clear.

I've tried looking for the photos of my friend's rifle with my 308 can on it.

11.5" barrel and Alpha 11" cheese grater HG. 5.56 QD mount.

I had 2 of them but I think they're MIA now.

Here's a 7.5" 22 I built with the 7.2 VTAC:


Link Posted: 12/8/2013 8:45:53 PM EST
Between my friends and I we have like 5 Centurion Arms rails. They are good to go.

In stock too: Centurion Arms rail.

A 10" rail will work well in an 11.5.
Link Posted: 12/9/2013 2:01:08 AM EST
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You got the YHM QD 5.56?

It will clear.

I've tried looking for the photos of my friend's rifle with my 308 can on it.

11.5" barrel and Alpha 11" cheese grater HG. 5.56 QD mount.

I had 2 of them but I think they're MIA now.

Here's a 7.5" 22 I built with the 7.2 VTAC:
<a href="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3779/9695979107_a1e9a78f72_b.jpg" target="_blank">http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3779/9695979107_a1e9a78f72_b.jpg</a>
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<a href="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/9695979449_79b3def799_b.jpg" target="_blank">http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5488/9695979449_79b3def799_b.jpg</a>
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Yes to the phantom 5.56.

I didn't know if the mount / collar + location if it at the edge of the rail would allow for the can to fully engage the mount while not touching the rail.
Link Posted: 12/9/2013 2:58:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/9/2013 2:58:30 AM EST by Lancelot]
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Link Posted: 12/10/2013 12:15:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
How is the centurion 10" C4?
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It's awesome

P.S. Odd place to move this thread to Lancelot
Link Posted: 12/10/2013 6:18:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/10/2013 6:18:00 AM EST by Lancelot]
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Link Posted: 12/10/2013 10:52:50 AM EST
I think I'll pull the trigger on the 10" C4
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 5:22:49 PM EST
I have this listed in the EE:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_159/1252734_WTS____Smith_and_Wesson_MandP15_Free_Float_Alum_rails.html
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 10:30:43 AM EST
Geissele has 2 different 10" rails, MK1 & MK3
http://geissele.com/rails.html?size=5
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