I'm looking for a frontgrip that is shorter/fatter than the Knight's style of grip.  Basically I'm looking for a HK MP5k size grip, but fits a weaver/picaninny style of rail.  I found these on the net b4 but now cant find them.

scottMO

Try this, TDI Short Grip from BrightFlashlights

try sportmans guide ar15  front grip aluimum rubber overmold 24.95

Hey Scott , whereabout in Misery you from? Consider the CQD Vertical Grip you can a general description on the EE under new parts on about page 3 from GNRtactical.com a great price too. No its not $24.95 but you get what you pay for, and a VG is no different. I have 3VG's sitting in a box at home more or less ruined because I wasn't aware of the functional difference between center bolt lock up types and cross bolt lock up types in principle they should both work on any rail however - center bolt lock up types generally work better with Picatinny rail and cross bolt lock up types work better with Weaver rail. But the CQD VG would work equally well with any rail, I have mine mounted on a #4 SIR rail and is rock solid, it did not wiggle loose at all the cross bolts were set as tight after as before I fired my carbine. - Check it out !  

Hammer,

I'm in a suburb of Kansas City.  I appreciate all the info.  I think the TDI grip will fit my overall needs the best.

thanks guys

scottMO

i have tdi and i like how it is just long enough for my hand and the thickness makes it comfortable to grip