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Posted: 10/15/2003 3:12:25 PM EDT
I need a round for an 18' bbl with a 1-9 twist. I'm looking for somthing best for use (on varmints) at around 200 yds. The Black Hills 55gr Full Metal Jac did not do so well. Any suggestions from the those in the know??

Thanks in advance

Twist is 1-9, thanks
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 3:52:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Robertesq1: I need a round for an 18' bbl with a 1-9 twist. I'm looking for somthing best for use (on varmints) at around 200 yds. The Black Hills 55gr Full Metal Jac did not do so well. Any suggestions from the those in the know?? Thanks in advance Twist is 1-9, thanks
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A 50 grain hollowpoint would be great, Winchester or Federal. I use my own loads, but for little criters you need a more "dramatic" bullet.
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 4:32:05 PM EDT
Ohio: Thanks What I'm looking for is accuracy, and was wondering if any particular round performs best with the 18 bbl and 1-0 twist.
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 4:42:16 PM EDT
The only way to know what will perform best in your rifle to try different ammo yourself. What works in one rifle doesn't work the same in another, even with the same setup. One round I'd try is the Winchester 45 grain JHP. This is known to be fairly accurate and will devastate varmints.
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 4:51:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/15/2003 4:58:59 PM EDT by Robertesq1]
El-Roto I know, but I also know that certain weights, and twists are at least theoretically better suited and was wondering if anyone with greater experience might save me some time. I was thinking maybe going up in weight to 62 grain. According to the Ammo Oracle lighter grain 30-50 are better with 1-12 to 1-14 twist and a 1:9 twist will stabilize bullet lengths equivalent to lead-core bullets of 40 to 75 grains in weight (with 55-60 in the center of the bell curve).
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 6:00:43 PM EDT
I have a bushmaster varminter and have been trying to find the "best" round for it.I have been doing some accurancy tests at 100 yards and my tightest groups so far have been from the Winchester 45 grain JHP so far.I have tried about half of the differents brands and types of ammo that i have bought and is hands down the best so far.I have been doing 10 round groups and is the only one under 1 moa so far when using a bipod.No fliers after 10 shots is good in my book.
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 6:06:05 PM EDT
My bad, Rob...I hit "Reply" before I looked at your post count and realized too late I gave a canned answer to a board vet. I figured I'd take my lumps rather than try to hide behind the -edit- feature.
Link Posted: 10/15/2003 6:13:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By El_Roto: My bad, Rob...I hit "Reply" before I looked at your post count and realized too late I gave a canned answer to a board vet. I figured I'd take my lumps rather than try to hide behind the -edit- feature.
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No sweat, I'm fishing, glad for any comments/ideas, thanks for the input.
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 7:00:06 AM EDT
I would recommend a load that uses the Hornady V-Max bullet. Hornady loads them as does Black Hills. I have had great success with bullets as light as 35-40 gr., although for 200 yds I'd recommend a little more weight.
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 11:23:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Robertesq1: I know, but I also know that certain weights, and twists are at least theoretically better suited and was wondering if anyone with greater experience might save me some time.
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The 50 grain has done well for me, running fast, too. Anytime I get lighter I have to slow down or lose bullets. I am using 1/9 for these. I have a 1/12" barrel on another rifle; it uses the lighter bullets. In the AR I do 50 and up. For varmints I wouldn't get too heavy unless you use the ballistic tips.
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 12:19:51 PM EDT
Accuracy wise, I have great results with Hornady 68gr BTHP match (the 68 gr V-MAX I bet would be awesome too, but have not tried it yet). This is out of a standard chromoly 1/9 16" barrel. However, the 45gr JHPs are not far behind, and I get excellent groups with them as well. I tend to use the lighter ones for ground squirrels cuz they pop 'em open pretty good. hehe. Come to think of it though, I haven't shot squirrels with the 68gr bullets. My theory is that the wouldn't be as catastrophic (but maybe they would), plus they are more expensive [:)].
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 12:46:20 PM EDT
I ordered the following Black Hills to try: .223 Rem. 60gr Hornady V-Max .223 Rem. 68gr Heavy Match Hollow Point .223 Rem. 50gr Hornady V-Max .223 Rem. 77gr Sierra Match K Any comments??
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 1:33:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Robertesq1: I ordered the following Black Hills to try: .223 Rem. 60gr Hornady V-Max .223 Rem. 68gr Heavy Match Hollow Point .223 Rem. 50gr Hornady V-Max .223 Rem. 77gr Sierra Match K Any comments??
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My bet is the Sierras won't stabilize, off paper at 100 yards. The 68 grains are good antipersonnel, they won't expand fast enough for the classic varmint behaviour; the others will be great for critters.
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 2:14:48 PM EDT
Let us know your results. I would be very interested. Also run over to Walmart and pick up a box of 45gr JHPs if you haven't tried them already. I would have thought they wouldn't do very well (according the the oracle and all) but they suprised me with their accuracy.
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 3:48:24 PM EDT
Another vote for trying the 45gr Winchester load. Shoot them in a RRA 24in 1-8 twist varmint rig, under 1/2 inch groups at a 100yds. What more do you want?
Link Posted: 10/17/2003 4:02:30 AM EDT
I count four votes for 45 gr Win jhp.
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