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Posted: 4/9/2009 7:53:15 AM EDT
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DEVICES THAT FALLS INTO THE "WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?" CATEGORY:
UNLIKE SOME OTHER RECEIVER END PLATE SLING MOUNTS, THIS DESIGN PERMITS THE STOCK TO BE FULLY COLLAPSED: 
ONLY $24, TOO. THE HEAVY DUTY QD SWIVELS ARE $15. GOOD SHOOTING, WES GRANT MSTN.BIZ NOTE - NOT ON THE WEBSITE YET. JUST DO A $1 "SPECIAL ORDER" ON THE WEBSITE IF YOU WANT ONE. |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 7:55:28 AM EDT
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That mounting position seems like it may restrict the sling swivel from rotating all the way.
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Posted: 4/9/2009 8:41:51 AM EDT
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That mounting position seems like it may restrict the sling swivel from rotating all the way. INDEED, IT DOES. AND THAT IS NOT A BAD THING. IT'S A POSITIVE ONE. |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 9:29:13 AM EDT
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That mounting position seems like it may restrict the sling swivel from rotating all the way. INDEED, IT DOES. AND THAT IS NOT A BAD THING. IT'S A POSITIVE ONE. Absolutely! If it swiveled all the way around, your sling would get twisted. I have 3 and they work as advertised; however, the end plate will not fit on my Sendra Registered Receiver as the hole in the receiver is not deep enough. |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 9:56:41 AM EDT
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That mounting position seems like it may restrict the sling swivel from rotating all the way. INDEED, IT DOES. AND THAT IS NOT A BAD THING. IT'S A POSITIVE ONE. Huh....so the guys at Knight's Armament company are wrong? 
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Posted: 4/9/2009 10:18:49 AM EDT
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That mounting position seems like it may restrict the sling swivel from rotating all the way. INDEED, IT DOES. AND THAT IS NOT A BAD THING. IT'S A POSITIVE ONE. Huh....so the guys at Knight's Armament company are wrong? http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1043466/JUAKU-P1000236.JPG Only if you don't transition side to side. In the above setup, if you transition to the opposite side, the sling gets bound up or gets too tight. In setup using Noveske's or Magpuls end plate, the sling hook just slides from left to right with no binding. |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 10:22:39 AM EDT
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That mounting position seems like it may restrict the sling swivel from rotating all the way. INDEED, IT DOES. AND THAT IS NOT A BAD THING. IT'S A POSITIVE ONE. Huh....so the guys at Knight's Armament company are wrong? http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1043466/JUAKU-P1000236.JPG THEY WERE FIRST, AND NOT REALLY "WRONG" IN A LITERAL SENSE. HOWEVER, WITH THE SWIVEL COMPLETELY FREE TO ROTATE 360 DEGREES, SOME UNWANTED TWISTS CAN BE PUT INTO YOUR SLING. THEY'RE SIMPLE TO REMOVE, OF COURSE. JUST A MINOR HASSLE. NOTE THAT LARUE DESIGNED HIS BUILT-IN FOREND SLING MOUNTS EXPRESSLY TO PREVENT THE SLING SWIVEL FROM BEING ABLE TO ROTATE , FOR THIS EXACT REASON. |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 10:31:54 AM EDT
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"Why didnt I think of that" for sure.
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Posted: 4/9/2009 10:46:06 AM EDT
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I like this idea,
I llike that if I want to take my sling off, I don't have a ring rattleing around back there. I may be selling my magpul end plate after acquiring one of these. I think this may fit my needs better |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 10:57:49 AM EDT
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Will these work with the UBR?
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Posted: 4/9/2009 11:03:31 AM EDT
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I like this idea, I llike that if I want to take my sling off, I don't have a ring rattleing around back there. I may be selling my magpul end plate after acquiring one of these. I think this may fit my needs better Exactly! I sold one of my Magpul end plates and now the other two will be going soon. |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 11:52:39 AM EDT
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No. normal carbine extensions only.
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Posted: 4/9/2009 12:10:20 PM EDT
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Will these work with the UBR? No. No endplate will work with the UBR/M93. I do like this, though I've seen it many times before. |
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Posted: 4/9/2009 2:16:19 PM EDT
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I think its a fine idea.
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Posted: 4/9/2009 3:33:43 PM EDT
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though I've seen it many times before.
sharpshooter - can you elaborate on that? It will make me feel better if my prototype wasn't the first. 
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Posted: 4/9/2009 11:38:35 PM EDT
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I was looking for this months ago, and could not find one. I figured it was too logical to NOT be available. Oh well, my magpul ASAP plate serves me well.
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Posted: 4/10/2009 6:06:18 AM EDT
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though I've seen it many times before.
sharpshooter - can you elaborate on that? It will make me feel better if my prototype wasn't the first. I'm not sure where all I've seen it, but I know that I HAVE seen it before, and more than once, and more than one place. The first I saw of it I had no idea who made it... (May not have been the Noveske version..?) A while later I saw it on the Noveske website. I've seen it pop up at random since then, not all too often though. 
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Posted: 4/10/2009 6:45:19 AM EDT
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I'd like to try one out & compare it to my ASAP
(1) NEW NOVESKE "MINIMALIST" RECEIVER END PLATE SLING MOUNT: $24 (1)HEAVY DUTY QD SWIVELS: $15 If you prefer to use USPS as your shipping method, please contact the store owner How do I go about ordering off the site using USPS or do I need to call? |
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Posted: 4/10/2009 7:10:32 AM EDT
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I'd like to try one out & compare it to my ASAP (1) NEW NOVESKE "MINIMALIST" RECEIVER END PLATE SLING MOUNT: $24 (1)HEAVY DUTY QD SWIVELS: $15 If you prefer to use USPS as your shipping method, please contact the store owner How do I go about ordering off the site using USPS or do I need to call? I WILL NO LONGER USE USPS - TOO MANY PROBLEMS LOCALLY. IT'S FEDEX AIR OR GROUND, YOUR CHOICE. |
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Posted: 4/10/2009 9:08:32 AM EDT
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ok, I'll have to wait & put a bigger order together
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Posted: 4/10/2009 3:32:53 PM EDT
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I think I like this better than the ASAP I just ordered.
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Posted: 4/10/2009 5:51:25 PM EDT
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WES, how much will the QD sling swivel rotate?
Thanks! |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 12:01:32 PM EDT
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My ASAP came in and it is LOUD. I want the NOVESKE piece. DAMN. LOL
I guess I'm off to order the Noveske piece. It'll match my barrel. lol |
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Posted: 4/11/2009 12:41:01 PM EDT
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Ordered it about 20 min ago. lol Anybody want an ASAP?
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Posted: 4/12/2009 9:35:26 AM EDT
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Ok this puts me in a dilemma. Do I want this or a Magpul ASAP?
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Posted: 4/12/2009 1:24:03 PM EDT
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Ok this puts me in a dilemma. Do I want this or a Magpul ASAP? While I haven't had it installed long, I'm loving my ASAP so far; I'm not sure what other people are referring to, as I don't find it noisy AT ALL even without the sling attached. *shrug* That being said, I'm intrigued by this Noveske offering and I think I'll try it on my next build. I doubt that I'll be so blown away by it that I'll get rid of the ASAP but I do like the minimalist approach. My main question is how well does the sling swivel attach to the end plate? It doesn't appear that there's all that much gripping surface, though that could be due to the angle of the pics or something. I'm definitely interested in reading some reports on this piece of gear. |
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Posted: 4/12/2009 5:26:31 PM EDT
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All I know is that the first thing I noticed was that it "jingles" I didn't even take it out of the sealed package that came inside the ziplock with the instructions. I know that it probably quiets down with the sling attached but when are those gonna be in stock? IDK if nobody wants the ASAP I might put it on the next gun.
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Posted: 4/12/2009 10:53:57 PM EDT
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Simple. Smart. I like it!
Its one of those simple twists that should have been there from the beginning. |
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Posted: 4/13/2009 5:16:04 AM EDT
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WES, how much will the QD sling swivel rotate? Thanks! ABOUT 30 DEGREES UP AND 30 DEGREES DOWN. |
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Posted: 4/13/2009 8:58:54 AM EDT
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I'm excited about this new product because it allows you to close the stock all the way without interference problems. However, with that having been said, Daniel Defense has made a similar mount for several years now. To get around the stock interference problem, I simply did a little Dremel work on the affected portion of my collapsible stock and voila, problem solved. See the photo below. Note: I had to zoom in a lot on an existing photo so the quality is somewhat lacking, but you should be able to see where I Dremeled out a small area for the sling swivel. I do not however believe that this Dremeling would be advisable on an aftermarket stock such as the Magpul offerings, therefore I will likely be purchasing this new Noveske mount when I upgrade my stock.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 7:52:22 PM EDT
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Does Noveske have plans to make a sling like the magpul MS2 and a attachment point on a railed forend. Then they would have a sling system that would work for both singe and two point.
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Posted: 4/15/2009 8:00:27 PM EDT
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After thinking about this a little more Noveske could have a better set up then Magpul. If you run a SOPMOD II with a swivel mount you could easily pop it out of the end plate and attach the sling to the stock like a true two point. Does anyone know if they are thinking about this?
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Posted: 4/16/2009 4:07:10 AM EDT
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WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT? THEY'RE WAY TOO BUSY TO EVEN ANSWER THE PHONE THESE DAYS. I'M SURPRISED THEY HAVE TIME TO THINK AT ALL.
I RUN A TWO-POINT, MYSELF, BUT WITH THE AFT MOUNTING POINT ON THE RECEIVER END PLATE, NOT THE STOCK. TO EACH HIS OWN. WES |
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Posted: 4/16/2009 10:21:19 AM EDT
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Does Noveske have plans to make a sling like the magpul MS2 and a attachment point on a railed forend. I doubt it, they are too busy making weapons. The Noveske QD sockets have been out for awhile, they are simple and work well. I've had one on the below for 5 or 6 months with good results. 
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Posted: 4/16/2009 1:04:21 PM EDT
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I do like this, though I've seen it many times before.
me too ... at DanielDefense site (but i did not like the price $50) 
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Posted: 4/16/2009 4:30:01 PM EDT
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Anyone use the Noveske piece with an MS2 yet?
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Posted: 4/19/2009 12:17:53 PM EDT
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Anyone use the Noveske piece with an MS2 yet? If magpul ever ships my sling out 
Ive been using it with the vickers sling with great success. Weak side transitions are much easier than when mounting it on one side because the swivel can rotate. Also my stock closes all the way with the sling installed but it does push the button down alittle. I dont see it being a problem though |
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Posted: 4/19/2009 2:57:41 PM EDT
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I'm happy with it.
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Posted: 4/20/2009 9:54:31 AM EDT
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I have basically the exact same design from daniel defense, love it best and easiest way to mount a sling IMHO
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Posted: 4/20/2009 11:17:34 AM EDT
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Running a DPMS lower, should I run into any issues with my QD off of my Vltor stock fitting into this Noveske sling mount plate with regards to the QD and or the hole in my lower?
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Posted: 4/21/2009 2:20:04 AM EDT
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Running a DPMS lower, should I run into any issues with my QD off of my Vltor stock fitting into this Noveske sling mount plate with regards to the QD and or the hole in my lower? THE QD SWIVEL FROM THE VLTOR STOCK WILL WORK FINE. I'VE HAD NO PROBLEM INSTALLING THESE ON ARMALITE, COLT, OR LMT LOWERS. I HAVE NO BASIS FOR AN OPINION REGARDING DPMS AS I HAVE NEVER WORKED WITH ONE. |
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Posted: 4/21/2009 2:26:02 AM EDT
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Running a DPMS lower, should I run into any issues with my QD off of my Vltor stock fitting into this Noveske sling mount plate with regards to the QD and or the hole in my lower? THE QD SWIVEL FROM THE VLTOR STOCK WILL WORK FINE. I'VE HAD NO PROBLEM INSTALLING THESE ON ARMALITE, COLT, OR LMT LOWERS. I HAVE NO BASIS FOR AN OPINION REGARDING DPMS AS I HAVE NEVER WORKED WITH ONE. I will order one today and report back on the fit. 
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Posted: 4/21/2009 5:42:31 AM EDT
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I did spot a problem on my install.
I can't get the castle nut back far enough to make the final turn of the buffer tube to fully engage the buffer detent as the tube/protrusion for the sling mount hits the side of the reciever. If I back off the last thread, the buffer detent is just barely engaged. I'll probably attack the end plate tube protrusion with a light file and a honing stone to see if I can create enough clearance to make the last thread and get the tube to fully sit on the buffer detent. |
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Posted: 4/21/2009 6:05:48 AM EDT
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I have basically the exact same design from daniel defense, love it best and easiest way to mount a sling IMHO http://www.danieldefense.com/img/product/832c0aa788cc8507e8304bdab99169ca.jpg I have both. The DD version is very different. It doesn't allow the stock to close completely. Look at the depth of the DD design vs. the Noveske. The Noveske is flat, low profile, and allows the stock to completely collapse. |
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Posted: 4/21/2009 10:23:54 PM EDT
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Removed about 0.026" of material and now the buffer tube sits over the buffer tube detent properly using the end plate.
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Posted: 4/22/2009 8:17:38 PM EDT
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Hey guys, I am in the market for one of these, but I can't seem to find a dealer that will ship me one for less than $9! It won't cost them more than a buck to drop it in a first class envelope...
Can anybody point me in the right direction? Or just sell me one? 
Thanks! |
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Posted: 4/23/2009 4:00:49 PM EDT
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Yeah it sux to pay $9 shipping on $24 part that weighs about 1oz. So I ended up ordering a Noveske t-shirt to help justify the shipping. So with the added t-shirt you end up paying a total of $50 for the damn $24 part.
WTF did I just do?
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Posted: 4/23/2009 4:24:42 PM EDT
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Just to report but it works flawlessly with the magpul MS2 sling. It even works with the stock fully collapsed which you cant say with the ASAP plate
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Posted: 4/24/2009 7:41:35 AM EDT
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WE JUST GOT SOME MORE OF THESE IN STOCK.
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Posted: 4/24/2009 7:53:26 AM EDT
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I have basically the exact same design from daniel defense, love it best and easiest way to mount a sling IMHO http://www.danieldefense.com/img/product/832c0aa788cc8507e8304bdab99169ca.jpg I have both. The DD version is very different. It doesn't allow the stock to close completely. Look at the depth of the DD design vs. the Noveske. The Noveske is flat, low profile, and allows the stock to completely collapse. this. i had the DD version and it wouldn't let me close my SOPMOD all the way and lock shut... this version is unique in that it appears to take advantage of the relief hole in the rear of the lower allowing for the endplate thickness to stay the same |
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Posted: 4/24/2009 4:43:13 PM EDT
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I received mine and it works great. Stock closes properly and my MS2 attaches fine.
Thanks for such a great product. P.S. I see that you show the QD swivel on the web site now. 
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