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Posted: 8/28/2004 11:50:28 AM EST
What was the rifle that Al Pacino was using in the bank shoot out?
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:51:12 AM EST
Which movie? You talking about Heat
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:54:11 AM EST
Surely you jest, as that is the most commonly asked question on this site. If you are serious, it is an FNC.

Be prepared for serious flaming.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:54:12 AM EST
Ops! Yes Heat
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:55:00 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:56:50 AM EST
ibtl



Where is the jezz picture.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:58:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By mrtw72:
What was the rifle that Al Pacino was using in the bank shoot out?





...welcome
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 11:59:12 AM EST
Here we go again
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:07:49 PM EST
Don't worry about it mrtw72. I didn't know it either until I came here!
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:10:45 PM EST
It's not an FNC. It's a Brazilian knockoff.

CRC
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:12:09 PM EST
can i shoot 5.56 in my .223?
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:12:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:28:26 PM EST
Please move along, keep moving !
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:37:05 PM EST
Fakes are easy to spot.

Link Posted: 8/28/2004 1:45:50 PM EST
Can I shoot .223s in my 5.56?
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 1:48:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/28/2004 2:41:06 PM EST by _DR]

Originally Posted By mrtw72:
What was the rifle that Al Pacino was using in the bank shoot out?



OK I wonder how many times this question has been asked now....

it was a







FN FNC

Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: standard model 997 mm (776 mm with folded butt); "Para" model 911 mm / 680 mm
Barrel length: 449 mm (363 mm "Para" model)
Weight with empty magazine: 4.06 kg (3.81 kg "Para" model)
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds (accept all STANAG-compatible magazines)
Rate of fire: about 700 rounds per minute
Effective range: 450 meters

Following the market failure of their previous 5.56mm caliber assault rifle, the CAL, famous Belgian company Fabrique Nationale began to develop the new assault rifle for 5.56mm NATO cartridge in the early 1970s. The final design, called the FNC (Fabrique Nationale Carbine) was produced circa 1978 and was consequently adopted by the Belgian Armed forces. It was also adopted by Sweden and Indonesia, and both those countries purchased the licenses to build more or less modified FNC carbines at their own facilities. Swedish version is known as Bofors AK-5 and Indonesian version is known as Pindad SS1. The FNC also was sold to some police forces around the world, and, in limited numbers for civilians - as a "Sporter" model, limited to semi-automatic mode only.

The FNC is a sound design which accumulated best features from other famous designs, such as Kalashnikov AK-47, Colt/Armalite M16, and others.

FNC is a gas operated, selective fire, magazine fed weapon.

The gas drive and rotating bolt of FNC strongly resembles the AK-47 system, but adapted for more advanced production technologies such as CNC machining and with some modifications. The long stroke gas piston is located above the barrel and is linked to the bolt carrier. Unlike the AK-47, the gas piston rod could be separated from the bolt carrier when gun is disassembled. The gas system featured two-positions gas regulator (for normal or adverse conditions) and a separate gas cutoff, combined with folding rifle grenade sights. When grenade sights are raised into the ready position, the gas cutoff automatically blocks the gas supply to the action, allowing for safe launching of rifle grenades. Both gas cutoff and a grenade sight are located on the gas chamber, just behind the front sight. The now common rotating bolt has two massive lugs that locks into the barrel extension.

The receiver is made from two parts that are linked by two cross-pins. The receiver could be opened for disassembly and maintenance by removing the rear pin, so the parts could be hinged around the forward pin (which also can be removed to separate receiver parts). Upper receiver is made from stamped steel, the lower receiver, along with magazine housing, is made from aluminum alloy.

Barrel of the FNC is equipped with flash hider which also served as a rifle grenade launcher.

FNC is equipped with hooded post front sight and a flip-up, "L" shaped rear diopter sight with 2 settings, for 250 and 400 meters range.

The controls of the FNC consist of the 4-positions safety / mode selector switch on the left side of the receiver. Available modes are Safe, Single shot, 3-rounds bursts and Full automatic fire. The cocking handle is attached to the bolt carrier at the right side and does reciprocate with the bolt group when gun is fired. The rear part of the cocking handle slot, cut in the upper receiver for cocking handle, is covered by the spring-loaded cover which automatically opens by the handle when it goes back and automatically closes the opening when cocking handle returns forward.

FNC is equipped with side-folding buttstock, made of steel and covered by plastic. A solid, non-folding plastic butt is available as an option. The pistol handle and the forend are made from plastic. FNC is equipped with sling swivels and can be fitted with special bayonet or with adapter for US M7 knife-bayonet. FNC can be fed from any STANAG (NATO standard) compliant magazine, and issued with 30 rounds magazines. If required, FNC could be fitted with 4X telescope sight or various IR / night vision sights.


OK, seriously, this needs to be stickied.....
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 1:48:45 PM EST
Who's Al Pacino?



Sly
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 1:49:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish:
Can I shoot .223s in my 5.56?



NO!

Your gun will explode.

One is super loaded for the military and one is not.

CRC
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 1:52:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:

Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish:
Can I shoot .223s in my 5.56?



NO!

Your gun will explode.

One is super loaded for the military and one is not.

CRC



Yeah, .223mm is way smaller than 5.56mm. 5.56 will blow the rifle sky high.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 2:09:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By _DR:

Originally Posted By mrtw72:
What was the rifle that Al Pacino was using in the bank shoot out?



OK I wonder how many times this question has been asked now....

FN FNC

Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: standard model 997 mm (776 mm with folded butt); "Para" model 911 mm / 680 mm
Barrel length: 449 mm (363 mm "Para" model)
Weight with empty magazine: 4.06 kg (3.81 kg "Para" model)
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds (accept all STANAG-compatible magazines)
Rate of fire: about 700 rounds per minute
Effective range: 450 meters

Following the market failure of their previous 5.56mm caliber assault rifle, the CAL, famous Belgian company Fabrique Nationale began to develop the new assault rifle for 5.56mm NATO cartridge in the early 1970s. The final design, called the FNC (Fabrique Nationale Carbine) was produced circa 1978 and was consequently adopted by the Belgian Armed forces. It was also adopted by Sweden and Indonesia, and both those countries purchased the licenses to build more or less modified FNC carbines at their own facilities. Swedish version is known as Bofors AK-5 and Indonesian version is known as Pindad SS1. The FNC also was sold to some police forces around the world, and, in limited numbers for civilians - as a "Sporter" model, limited to semi-automatic mode only.

The FNC is a sound design which accumulated best features from other famous designs, such as Kalashnikov AK-47, Colt/Armalite M16, and others.

FNC is a gas operated, selective fire, magazine fed weapon.

The gas drive and rotating bolt of FNC strongly resembles the AK-47 system, but adapted for more advanced production technologies such as CNC machining and with some modifications. The long stroke gas piston is located above the barrel and is linked to the bolt carrier. Unlike the AK-47, the gas piston rod could be separated from the bolt carrier when gun is disassembled. The gas system featured two-positions gas regulator (for normal or adverse conditions) and a separate gas cutoff, combined with folding rifle grenade sights. When grenade sights are raised into the ready position, the gas cutoff automatically blocks the gas supply to the action, allowing for safe launching of rifle grenades. Both gas cutoff and a grenade sight are located on the gas chamber, just behind the front sight. The now common rotating bolt has two massive lugs that locks into the barrel extension.

The receiver is made from two parts that are linked by two cross-pins. The receiver could be opened for disassembly and maintenance by removing the rear pin, so the parts could be hinged around the forward pin (which also can be removed to separate receiver parts). Upper receiver is made from stamped steel, the lower receiver, along with magazine housing, is made from aluminum alloy.

Barrel of the FNC is equipped with flash hider which also served as a rifle grenade launcher.

FNC is equipped with hooded post front sight and a flip-up, "L" shaped rear diopter sight with 2 settings, for 250 and 400 meters range.

The controls of the FNC consist of the 4-positions safety / mode selector switch on the left side of the receiver. Available modes are Safe, Single shot, 3-rounds bursts and Full automatic fire. The cocking handle is attached to the bolt carrier at the right side and does reciprocate with the bolt group when gun is fired. The rear part of the cocking handle slot, cut in the upper receiver for cocking handle, is covered by the spring-loaded cover which automatically opens by the handle when it goes back and automatically closes the opening when cocking handle returns forward.

FNC is equipped with side-folding buttstock, made of steel and covered by plastic. A solid, non-folding plastic butt is available as an option. The pistol handle and the forend are made from plastic. FNC is equipped with sling swivels and can be fitted with special bayonet or with adapter for US M7 knife-bayonet. FNC can be fed from any STANAG (NATO standard) compliant magazine, and issued with 30 rounds magazines. If required, FNC could be fitted with 4X telescope sight or various IR / night vision sights.


OK, seriously, this needs to be stickied.....



I wonder why Max Popenker didn't include the Pacino/Heat connection in his history of the FNC. Apparently, it's the rifle's sole claim to fame.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 2:23:46 PM EST
What kind of station wagon did DeNiro drive in the drive-in theater scene??
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 2:37:27 PM EST
Didn't Val Kilmer use a PSG1 in the drive-in scene?
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 2:46:57 PM EST
Thank you for the info. Next time I'll just keep my mouth shut.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 2:51:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
What kind of station wagon did DeNiro drive in the drive-in theater scene??



It was a Volvo wagon, a 242 I think.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 2:51:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
What kind of station wagon did DeNiro drive in the drive-in theater scene??



Hell with the station wagon, I want to know what kind of boots DeNiro was wearing!
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 2:54:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/28/2004 3:04:11 PM EST by _DR]

Originally Posted By Jeepster:
Didn't Val Kilmer use a PSG1 in the drive-in scene?



some kind of HK91 variant, could be a MSG90 or G3SG/1, but actually just looks like an HK91 with a bipod




MSG90


G3SG/1


HK91 w/bipod
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 2:55:21 PM EST
IBTL,
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 3:03:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/28/2004 3:04:01 PM EST by armalite_OG]
I was just in my fun shop today as a matter of fact and they have 4ea. 3shot burst/full auto FNC's 7900.00 each

I have been lusting over them ever since he got them a while back!

They are no M16 but I can almost afford one.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 4:12:54 PM EST
Oh man are you in for it. I asked this question once before I realized how often it was asked. Prepare for an ass ripin'.

<­BR>

Oh yeah, IBTL and all that stuff.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 6:45:32 PM EST


oh yeah, IBTL
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 7:40:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
What kind of station wagon did DeNiro drive in the drive-in theater scene??



a Buick, he also drove a Caddilac SeVille, and a Camaro Z28

Kilmer drove a Corvette.

Sizemore drove a DeVille.

Trejo drove an El Camino, a Chevy Silverado, a Caprice wagon, a Chevy van, and a Ford F350 crew cab dually.

Pacino drove a Ford Crown Victoria.

The Baja wrecker was a Peterbuilt.

The Goodhew ambulance was a Chevy Van.

The getaway car was, of course, an Lincoln Town Car.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 7:51:10 PM EST
The real question is............

What kind of gun did Pacino use in Scarface?
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 7:57:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By Spooge5150:
The real question is............

What kind of gun did Pacino use in Scarface?



easy - an M16 with an m203

Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:38:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By SNorman:

Originally Posted By CRC:

Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish:
Can I shoot .223s in my 5.56?



NO!

Your gun will explode.

One is super loaded for the military and one is not.

CRC



Yeah, .223mm is way smaller than 5.56mm. 5.56 will blow the rifle sky high.



Damnit!
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:55:52 AM EST
Can I shoot .223 in my .223?

IBTL!
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 8:05:43 PM EST
yes
.....
Movie: HEAT (1995)

pacino: FN FNC

kilmer: HK-91 (cause kilmer never went full auto on it (& and we know he would have) and the selector switch has only 2 settingsin the pic)
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 5:40:23 AM EST
The pics have inspired me! I think I'll watch Heat for the "who knows how many"'th time!
Kilmer was too smooth with those mag dumps. Absolutely, one of my all time favorite
movies. I guess I'll have to rent "Scar Face", I've never seen that one...

Johnny C!
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 6:59:58 AM EST
YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN SCARFACE!!!!
YOU MAKE ME SICK
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:09:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
What kind of station wagon did DeNiro drive in the drive-in theater scene?? hr


a Buick, he also drove a Caddilac SeVille, and a Camaro Z28

Kilmer drove a Corvette.

Sizemore drove a DeVille.

Trejo drove an El Camino, a Chevy Silverado, a Caprice wagon, a Chevy van, and a Ford F350 crew cab dually.

Pacino drove a Ford Crown Victoria.

The Baja wrecker was a Peterbuilt.

The Goodhew ambulance was a Chevy Van.

The getaway car was, of course, an Lincoln Town Car.



I think DeNiro also drove a BWM 850i Coupe at one point.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:50:16 AM EST
Say hello to my leeetle friend.

IBTL dittos...
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 9:06:11 AM EST
What kind of vest did Stalone wear in "Daylight"?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 9:22:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By mrtw72:
Thank you for the info. Next time I'll just keep my mouth shut.



It's okay guy, they're just havin' fun.

Hit the "search" button before posting questions. Chances are it's been asked and answered.



BTW: IBTL
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 9:30:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
What kind of station wagon did DeNiro drive in the drive-in theater scene??



a Buick, he also drove a Caddilac SeVille, and a Camaro Z28

Kilmer drove a Corvette.

Sizemore drove a DeVille.

Trejo drove an El Camino, a Chevy Silverado, a Caprice wagon, a Chevy van, and a Ford F350 crew cab dually.

Pacino drove a Ford Crown Victoria.

The Baja wrecker was a Peterbuilt.

The Goodhew ambulance was a Chevy Van.

The getaway car was, of course, an Lincoln Town Car.


Okay, what was the name of the ambulance company, from the armored car scene?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 9:51:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
Okay, what was the name of the ambulance company, from the armored car scene?


Ambulance's city/county was Goodhew and was number 92.

Armored car was number 605.
The armored car's tag number was also 3K918C4.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 10:08:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By tivoli410:

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
Okay, what was the name of the ambulance company, from the armored car scene?


Ambulance's city/county was Goodhew and was number 92.

Armored car was number 605.
The armored car's tag number was also 3K918C4.




Link Posted: 8/30/2004 11:02:21 AM EST
Speaking of guns in movies, I caught Escape From LA on tv the other night (ugh), and I noticed that the futuristic police force only had 10-rd mags in their super evil assault rifles. I thought that was hilarious.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 11:53:57 AM EST
Okay, everyone (typing as I giggle) I think everybody has been hard enough on the poor guy. mrtw72, They ARE just playing, that question, and a few others, are an ongoing theme around here. I havent been here all that long, but have seen it come up a lot. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves, its his second post! I am glad I managed to not ask that question before, although I did not know what kind of rifle Pacino had either until not long ago. I just never ask because I wasnt all that interested. I am glad I never did ask a noobish question around here. Yeah, right!
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