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Posted: 7/24/2005 7:36:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/24/2005 7:38:05 PM EDT by ic_guerrero]
Is this what the packaging for the Mk 262 Mod 1 that Cabela’s sales looks like?




Thanks,

Marco
Link Posted: 7/24/2005 7:55:41 PM EDT
No. I don't have the box right here, but I think it just says Black Hills 5.56 mm77 Grain MKHP.

Whatever the exact language, it does NOT say Mk 262 Mod 1, or anything like that.



Link Posted: 7/24/2005 8:00:03 PM EDT
Could this be the real deal then? Not the blemished stuff?
Link Posted: 7/24/2005 10:23:40 PM EDT
if it is me and the rest of the free worlkd would like to know where to get it, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee......
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 5:15:40 AM EDT
That's what the boxes say for 50 rds when I shot down with AMU at Benning. The Mk 262 Mod 0 that I have here are in 20 rd brown cardboard boxes. Don't know about Cablea's.

CD
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 11:11:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ic_guerrero:
Could this be the real deal then? Not the blemished stuff?



I'm sure it is the real deal. Cool for you if you got ahold of some.
If you don't mine my asking, where did you come across it?
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 11:14:12 AM EDT
IM sierraeight and ask him, he owns Black Hills Ammo.
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 11:15:04 AM EDT
Here ya go.

http://www.gizmosguns.com/product.asp?ProductID=17318

Link Posted: 7/25/2005 12:41:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VanekSF1:
Here ya go.

http://www.gizmosguns.com/product.asp?ProductID=17318




Thats where I got the picture. I just wanted to make sure it was real before I paid $38 a box.
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 3:47:09 PM EDT
where is it listed on Cabela’s web page? Could not fined it

What,s the Vel. / Energy of the MK 262 MOD1 ammo
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 4:39:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sharkbait:
What,s the Vel. / Energy of the MK 262 MOD1 ammo



I have chronographed it at ~2830 fps through a suppressed SPR and 2870 fps in a 20-incher.
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 5:02:34 PM EDT
Thank you KIndly
Link Posted: 7/25/2005 10:56:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sharkbait:
where is it listed on Cabela’s web page? Could not fined it



It is listed as:

5.56mm, 77 Grain MKCL for $27.99

Under the Black Hills ammo listings
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 12:44:00 AM EDT
So, has anyone ordered from Gizmo's yet? I'm very interested in a few hundred rounds of this but I'd like to know it's a good dealer before I put in an order.
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 7:31:33 AM EDT
i justed ordered 4 boxes, I'll post here and let you know how it goes
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 9:15:45 AM EDT
sweet
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 9:17:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/26/2005 9:18:14 AM EDT by Kal-El]
double post
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 11:44:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 11:55:15 AM EDT
I'm interested in doing a comparison between the factory seconds and the "real" stuff. If anyone has done such a comparison please let us know your results.
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 3:39:43 PM EDT
... tag
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 3:44:46 PM EDT
mucho taggage
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 4:30:09 PM EDT
tag.
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 10:37:20 PM EDT
Does any one have a picture of the packaging for Mk262 that Cabela's sales?
Link Posted: 7/26/2005 11:39:20 PM EDT


I still cannot believe that none of the usual companies will stock any real (non-seconds) Mk262 Mod 1. It's less than $6000 for 10,000 rds. Chump change for any decent sized company. In my earlier days, I would have bought a 10K lot on my own. There seems to be plenty of people who want it. Even at the high price, some people are willing to pay for the best.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 3:16:14 AM EDT
I will use the grade AAA stuff in my SPR clone (better made than the issue units).
I wil use the cosmetics in my Recce (much better made than an M-4)

This is for deployment purposes only.

For practice when I'm hanging out in Idaho, the worlds most beatiful place since Californians moved to California and then to Colorado I will load my own to duplicate the above.

There are guys at my home ranges that don't get around much (they don't want the black helicopters to spot them). When I come back home I'll sell some 50 round packs for $50.00 a crack; "Psst. Gerge, don't look around and don't be obvious;and for God's sake don't ask me where I got this (wink, wink), but this is that stuff we were drilling haji's with at 700 meters." "They load this so hot because it's more accurate that way." "We don't want the bad guys to get any because it's hot enough to shoot down helicopters." etc. etc.

Link Posted: 7/27/2005 4:21:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AK_Mike:


I still cannot believe that none of the usual companies will stock any real (non-seconds) Mk262 Mod 1. It's less than $6000 for 10,000 rds. Chump change for any decent sized company. In my earlier days, I would have bought a 10K lot on my own. There seems to be plenty of people who want it. Even at the high price, some people are willing to pay for the best.



Won't happen, all the non seconds stuff goes straight to the military.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 8:46:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By AK_Mike:


I still cannot believe that none of the usual companies will stock any real (non-seconds) Mk262 Mod 1. It's less than $6000 for 10,000 rds. Chump change for any decent sized company. In my earlier days, I would have bought a 10K lot on my own. There seems to be plenty of people who want it. Even at the high price, some people are willing to pay for the best.



Won't happen, all the non seconds stuff goes straight to the military.



Not true. For a minimum 10K or 25K order, BH will make a run for you. This is what GPSS did the first time around, and failed to do the second time (they couldn't get enough orders to make the minimum which dropped from 25K to 10K). First time buyers might be required to order 25K initially. I missed out on the first batch unfortunately, had a case and a half on order. These are first run.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 8:50:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/27/2005 9:01:28 AM EDT by photoman]

Originally Posted By AK_Mike:

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By AK_Mike:


I still cannot believe that none of the usual companies will stock any real (non-seconds) Mk262 Mod 1. It's less than $6000 for 10,000 rds. Chump change for any decent sized company. In my earlier days, I would have bought a 10K lot on my own. There seems to be plenty of people who want it. Even at the high price, some people are willing to pay for the best.



Won't happen, all the non seconds stuff goes straight to the military.



Not true. For a minimum 10K or 25K order, BH will make a run for you. This is what GPSS did the first time around, and failed to do the second time (they couldn't get enough orders to make the minimum which dropped from 25K to 10K). First time buyers might be required to order 25K initially. I missed out on the first batch unfortunately, had a case and a half on order. These are first run.



I'm going to repeat this one more time, and only because Sierraeight posted it before(and mind you I'm paraphrasing it a bit), all Mk262 Mod1 ammo that passes QC goes to the military. The only thing sold on the commercial market is seconds. Now if Jeff comes in here and says otherwise I'll believe it but untill then I'm inclined to go by what the OWNER of the company said right here on this board on more than one occasion.


The GPSS laod was with the 77gt nosler bullet too not the 77gr SMK.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 10:19:25 AM EDT
I have 3 boxes of Cabela's ammo and the boxes are marked "Seconds". I'll check the other markings and maybe post a photo of the box cover tonight when I get home.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 10:22:16 AM EDT
I sent a copy of the picture that is posted on this tread to a US Navy Gunners Mate that I served with and he said that that’s what the boxes of Mk262 MOD1 that he has in the armory look like.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 12:18:12 PM EDT
I stand corrected, my post was misguiding.

The load GPSS sold was equivalent to MK262 Mod 1 as far as I am concerned, though it's not the military ammo. It's loaded as hot, and has the cannelured bullet. I thought I remember the primer and mouth being sealed but I'm not sure anymore.

I would rather have that GPSS ammo than the seconds.

If someone/some company ordered the bulk order from Blackhills, you can have it EXACTLY match the military issue as it's just a custom run. There would be virtually no difference except for the markings on the box.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 12:56:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AK_Mike:
If someone/some company ordered the bulk order from Blackhills, you can have it EXACTLY match the military issue as it's just a custom run. There would be virtually no difference except for the markings on the box.



Group buy anyone??
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 1:47:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AK_Mike:
I would rather have that GPSS ammo than the seconds.




I take it you haven't seen the factory seconds yet? You would be hard pressed to tell they are seconds.

Link Posted: 7/27/2005 6:33:05 PM EDT
Does anyone have chronograph results for an 18" barrel?
Thanks, -JD
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 8:12:55 PM EDT
The 262 Mod 1 ammo I got from Cabelas says, 5.56MM, 77 gr match HP. It says factory seconds on the side of the box also. It doesn't mention Mod 1 or 262 anywhere on the box.
Link Posted: 7/27/2005 9:01:43 PM EDT
tagged
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 4:01:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/28/2005 3:20:22 PM EDT by sharkbait]
Does anyone have a link on the Cabelas site for the 262 mod 1 ammo?

Link Posted: 7/28/2005 4:02:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TANGOCHASER:
The 262 Mod 1 ammo I got from Cabelas says, 5.56MM, 77 gr match HP. It says factory seconds on the side of the box also. It doesn't mention Mod 1 or 262 anywhere on the box.



It won't because thanks to Billyboyclinton, we can't buy "surplus" ammo anymore. If it had Mk262 Mod1 on it anywhere we legaly could not have it.
Link Posted: 7/28/2005 4:32:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HotLead:
Does anyone have chronograph results for an 18" barrel?
Thanks, -JD



Again, ~2830 in 18" w/suppressor.
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 8:01:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rn22723:
Gizmo's Gun MK 262 Ammo Link



As I figured - Dead link

Luck
Alac
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 11:10:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rn22723:
Gizmo's Gun MK 262 Ammo - Link is Dead

It's dead because I think they sold out of the ammo. I bought several boxes.
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 11:25:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VanekSF1:
Originally Posted By rn22723:
Gizmo's Gun MK 262 Ammo - Link is Dead

It's dead because I think they sold out of the ammo. I bought several boxes.



So did I.
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 12:03:55 PM EDT
Tag for future reference.
Link Posted: 7/29/2005 5:46:25 PM EDT
im guilty, got the last four boxes
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:34:48 AM EDT
Does it come in 20rd or 50rd boxes?
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:07:24 AM EDT
50 rounds..........
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:00:22 PM EDT
I was in a shop yesterday. In the ammo section he had one 20 round box that was marked like posted here, with the exception that it was a 20 round box not 50. It was not marked as being seconds. It was priced at $3.99, like all the other .223, 5.56 ammo.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:04:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rob96:
I was in a shop yesterday. In the ammo section he had one 20 round box that was marked like posted here, with the exception that it was a 20 round box not 50. It was not marked as being seconds. It was priced at $3.99, like all the other .223, 5.56 ammo.



Did you ask if/when they will be getting more?
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:18:10 PM EDT
No I didn't. Basically noticed as I was leaving.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 10:52:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VanekSF1:
Originally Posted By rn22723:
Gizmo's Gun MK 262 Ammo - Link is Dead

It's dead because I think they sold out of the ammo. I bought several boxes.



Exactly - I meant I didnt figure they would have much.

Kinda surprised at the interest this stuff generates. At $760 per case, I'd like to see if its significantly different than the "seconds", if these are indeed anything but. If I can get $50 a box like LawnDart poses, I got 3 cases up for grabs.

Luck
Alac
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 11:24:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rob96:
I was in a shop yesterday. In the ammo section he had one 20 round box that was marked like posted here, with the exception that it was a 20 round box not 50. It was not marked as being seconds. It was priced at $3.99, like all the other .223, 5.56 ammo.



20rd boxes??? Thats not right, it should be in 50rd boxes.
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