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Posted: 8/4/2005 9:09:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/17/2005 11:54:58 AM EDT by 1Andy2]
ETA:update 08/25/05

I'm bored.

So I took the Handguards off my carbine... the aluminum peices are the heatshield, right?

Anyways, my dad has all kinds of bandsaws, lathes, etc and I've got so much freakin Mesquite that isn't suitable for furniture (too small) but would probably make good carbine HGs.

Where can I get just the metal heatshields? Thats the piece I don't think I could make on my own (at least not of a decent quality anyways).

I'll post pics when I actually get started.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:02:22 PM EDT
This is actually my second attempt. Basically identical except it was a smaller diameter and had NO bug burrow holes in it. I neglected to take pics of it :/ Its out at a friend's shop who has a 3 jaw chuck to hold the end while he drills a hole through it.

I'll post more progress when I get the first one back and finish it.











Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:05:40 PM EDT
Tagged - looking good so far!
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:19:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:30:33 PM EDT
Bumped a 100 round drum in 2-3 nice segments in my bro's MAK...handguard melted, and slowly oozed from the rifle to the ground. Perhaps some sort of heat shield is in order? (removes tinfoil helmet and fashions new handguard)
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:31:59 PM EDT
Tag ...
Link Posted: 7/14/2005 8:41:18 PM EDT

Make me some shoes, while you're at it.

Someone had to say it.
Link Posted: 7/14/2005 8:41:52 PM EDT
AKs dont have heatshields in the wood, you should be fine without
Link Posted: 7/14/2005 8:47:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
AKs dont have heatshields in the wood, you should be fine without



"A south Texas man caught fire today while shooting his gun. Apparently he was practicing a method called 'bumpfiring' when his gun burst into flames quickly turning the man into a holocaust of writhing, twitching pain..."

Well, thats how I hope they write it.
Link Posted: 7/14/2005 8:47:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
AKs dont have heatshields in the wood, you should be fine without



"A south Texas man caught fire today while shooting his gun. Apparently he was practicing a method called 'bumpfiring' when his gun burst into flames quickly turning the man into a holocaust of writhing, twitching pain..."

Well, thats how I hope they write it.



I bumpfire my MAK90 by the drum and I have yet to catch them on fire.
Link Posted: 7/14/2005 8:50:04 PM EDT
I wouldn't use mesquite as a handguard...no more than I'd use pine.

Use a solid, hard wood...

Also, eschew the hardguards. They'll collect the heat (which is fine with polymer), but it'll probably char the wood where it touches.

Probably better to run it as-is, and let the heat dissapate naturally. Hopefully it's an HBAR


I wouldn't be doing Beta C-Mag dumps in it

Link Posted: 7/14/2005 8:52:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
I bumpfire my MAK90 by the drum and I have yet to catch them on fire.



I haven't had my AK wood catch fire exactily, but I've certainly made it smoke, the inside is a little charred, and the laminate has bubbled all over the place...

Bumpfiring 4 30 round mags will do that...

(old Norinco 7.62x39 AK, replaced the Chinese furniture with Soviet/Russian AKM furniture..)

Link Posted: 7/14/2005 8:52:10 PM EDT
The mesquite will smell good when it starts to smoke
Link Posted: 7/14/2005 8:57:51 PM EDT
Mesquite is a hardwood. People use it in furniture construction all the time. Looks great if you can find a big enough piece to use. Hell, I've seen guitars that had mesquite sides...

I wanted to do wood handguards for looks. Also I was going to eventually try making a mesquite stock, too.
Link Posted: 7/14/2005 9:01:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Make me some shoes, while you're at it.

Someone had to say it.

Link Posted: 7/14/2005 9:10:47 PM EDT
"I can fix it. My dad has an awesome set of tools."

Link Posted: 8/3/2005 6:03:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/3/2005 6:04:20 PM EDT by 1Andy2]
Could a mod move this to the Build it yourself forum please?

Its kinda getting buried in GD.

I'm fixin to add pics of what I did today...
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 8:54:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2005 8:59:51 PM EDT by 1Andy2]
Ok, I still haven't gotten my first HG back, so no progress on that yet...

But! I decided since I was making a mesquite HG I might as well make the rest of the furniture to match!

Heres what I've done on that so far:

Chunk of wood.


Bandsawed into a rough stock:

And PG:

Both sanded flat:

Next I used an oscillating spindle sander to round em both up:



Link Posted: 8/4/2005 9:01:00 PM EDT
Tag
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 9:03:35 PM EDT
I'm going to watch this progress, because it looks very good so far.
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 9:10:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 9:12:35 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 9:12:40 PM EDT
Talk about gettin wood!!


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Link Posted: 8/4/2005 9:14:58 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 12:52:14 AM EDT
So tagged...
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:15:04 AM EDT
Tagged!

That wood furniture is going to look sweet!
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:40:41 AM EDT
That's pretty freakin neat.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 8:16:30 AM EDT
Tagaroo
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 4:45:29 PM EDT
I like it
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 5:28:04 PM EDT

Link Posted: 8/6/2005 9:11:22 PM EDT




Link Posted: 8/6/2005 10:52:13 PM EDT
The redneck in me must tag this thread.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 5:06:52 AM EDT
I'm definitely admiring your handiwork. There was an article on wood furniture in the last "Book of the AR15" and I thought it looked great. I don't recall what wood they used, but they didn't mention anything about catching fire or dying a horrible death....so you should be good to go. :)

Were I doing it, I would cut the notch for the grip and bore the buffertube hole before I rounded the pieces out too much more.

What type of finish are you thinking about using? Would an oil finish prevent water damage without bubbling out when the barrel heats up? I love oiled wood finishes.

I'm jealous and seriously wishing I had some woodworking tools! Congrats on this one, hoss.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 2:34:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VaughnT:
I'm definitely admiring your handiwork. There was an article on wood furniture in the last "Book of the AR15" and I thought it looked great. I don't recall what wood they used, but they didn't mention anything about catching fire or dying a horrible death....so you should be good to go. :)

Were I doing it, I would cut the notch for the grip and bore the buffertube hole before I rounded the pieces out too much more.

What type of finish are you thinking about using? Would an oil finish prevent water damage without bubbling out when the barrel heats up? I love oiled wood finishes.

I'm jealous and seriously wishing I had some woodworking tools! Congrats on this one, hoss.



Yeah, I actually need to work on the stock a bit more. Maybe deepen the curve on the front portion. Maybe the PG too. Tomorrow is going to be interesting trying to drill the buffer tube hole with my dad's drill press...

The PG might end up looking a little funny once its installed on the gun because I deliberately made it slightly oversized. My fingers are a kind of long and the regular A2 PG makes shooting a little uncomfortable.

I got my first HG back, but I don't know if I'll post pics of it. The pithwood just ran too deep on one side for me to lathe it all off, so one side doesn't look very good.

As a matter of fact I was thinking about an oil finish. Mesquite has such a beautiful grain to it, it would be a shame to cover it up with a really dark finish. I think I'll use the first HG to test different finishes out on. Maybe put 4 or 5 different finishes on it in sections and then put it on the gun to see which looks the best.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 3:43:04 PM EDT
Okie, little more progress done.

I wasn't really able to drill a hole straight through the stock, so I cut it in half and used a router instead.

Cut in half:


Mr Router:





Rounded bit to smooth it up.


After hand sanding the inside:


I'm gonna glue it up tonight and we'll see what happens.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 5:31:04 PM EDT
looks good! how much time you got into this project so far?
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 5:34:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:24:25 PM EDT
Tag
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:36:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rooster3:
looks good! how much time you got into this project so far?




More than I care to think about.

Oh yeah, and here's the completed PG (minus oil/varnish)





The slice on the right is back from the beginning when I rought cut the PG out of a chunk of wood. Same peice of wood. The stain is a linseed oil based wood stain from back in the 70's.

That's probably what I'm going to use. What do you guys think? Too dark? Too light?
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 8:01:18 PM EDT
The new budweiser aluminum beer bottles look as thick as ar heat sheilds when you cut them in two, been thinking about useing one forheat
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 8:04:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
The slice on the right is back from the beginning when I rought cut the PG out of a chunk of wood. Same peice of wood. The stain is a linseed oil based wood stain from back in the 70's.

That's probably what I'm going to use. What do you guys think? Too dark? Too light?



Just right, IMO.

Looks good.

Link Posted: 8/18/2005 10:03:01 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 5:04:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DrMark:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
The slice on the right is back from the beginning when I rought cut the PG out of a chunk of wood. Same peice of wood. The stain is a linseed oil based wood stain from back in the 70's.

That's probably what I'm going to use. What do you guys think? Too dark? Too light?



Just right, IMO.

Looks good.




+1 Perfect.



Link Posted: 8/20/2005 3:15:02 PM EDT
More eye candy ready today:





Also finished gluing the stock back up but I'm not gonna post pics of it til I sand it because it has tape residue and marks from the clamps all over it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 1:40:07 AM EDT
That pistol grip looks kinda uncomfortable IMO. How does it feel in your hand?
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 6:51:47 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:19:21 AM EDT
Looks excellent so far. I really-really do like the grain in mesquite. Keep the pics coming and GOOD LUCK!
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 10:47:20 AM EDT
Looks great!
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:10:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:16:08 AM EDT
Looks great. Tag.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 11:28:15 AM EDT
Tagged for the outcome.
Looking good!
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