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Posted: 2/13/2013 3:20:53 AM EDT
I have 2 distinct questions here. What is the minimal amount of magnification in a scope you need to be able to adjust your shots on paper without a spotting scope at 100 yards and separately 300 yards. most of my shooting will be range and such and I do not want to have to take a spotting scope. thanks beforehand
Link Posted: 2/13/2013 3:33:05 AM EDT
now that I think about it a little more 300 maybe too much for any scope. but to reiterate, I do not want to scope the covers both ranges. I would like individual Answers Thanks
Link Posted: 2/13/2013 3:42:50 AM EDT
Depends on what caliber you are talking about. .224 holes are hard to see .308 much easier. At 300 yards you can see .308 holes with a 10x scope with the right light conditions.
Link Posted: 2/13/2013 4:42:23 AM EDT
.223 caliber
Link Posted: 2/13/2013 4:51:16 AM EDT
One tip to help you see your holes is to use an orange or white paper target. The small holes on a black target are really hard to see. At 300 yards to see a .224 hole I use suggest about a 20x scope to see the holes. Scope quality matters also.
Link Posted: 2/13/2013 5:07:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By reelserious:
One tip to help you see your holes is to use an orange or white paper target. The small holes on a black target are really hard to see. At 300 yards to see a .224 hole I use suggest about a 20x scope to see the holes. Scope quality matters also.


What about 100 yards? (4x acog or elcan or 1-4x), 1-6x, 1-8x. Which would be the least needed to see at 100?
Link Posted: 2/13/2013 5:42:18 AM EDT
I like 9x minimum to see shots on paper at 100y (12x is better and 16x makes it easy), but a clear 8x should work. Avoid dark/black targets as the holes are much harder to find at any magnification. 4x isnt good for 100y, but shoot-n-see targets could show hits ( but not misses on normal paper)

Its not all about magnification, glass clarity and resolution as well as target color are all big factors.

At 200, I can barely make out hits on shoot-n-see targets with a great glass on a 4x, but anything that hits normal paper is lost.
At 300, you need a clear 25+ and a white sheet on a clothesline a few feet back from the target to make the holes pop.
Link Posted: 2/13/2013 6:01:35 AM EDT
I too would second a 9x minimum for 100 yards.

I've got a 9x on my Savage 17 HMR, and I can see hits at 100 yards on my reactive targets fairly well.

I ran a 12x on one of my 223s for awhile, and it was really easy to see hits at 100 yards on my reactive targets.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 4:48:10 AM EDT
I will say it also depends a LOT on scope quality.


I can't speak for 300 yards, but at 100 yards my Nikon Monarch 1-4X scope set on 3 powercan pick up .224 holes whereas my 1-3X Weaver cannot pick up .308 holes.
Link Posted: 2/15/2013 12:50:26 PM EDT
I can get by at 100 yards without a spotting scope, using a clear 3-9x40mm scope on 9 power.

Like said, .308 holes are pretty easy to see. On the .223 holes, sometimes I have to hit the spot a few times to begin seeing where the group is landing.
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