M-16 Bolt Carrier Advantage over AR-15?

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Posted: 3/15/2006 9:24:15 AM EDT

I'm thinking about making my AR into an M-16. Is there a reliability difference or anything with the M-16's extra metal on the bolt carrier? Or is the AR configuration better?

Posted: 3/15/2006 9:32:30 AM EDT

[#1]

you can't just *make* your AR into an M16. that's been 100% illegal since 1986, unless you buy a DIAS that was made and tax paid before then. those are running in the tens-of-thousands-of dollars though.

lots of people do M16 carriers in their *semi-auto* AR's. i do. it's thought that the "extra metal" adds enough mass to make the weapon more reliable.

Posted: 3/15/2006 9:34:06 AM EDT

[#2]

Conventional wisdom says the M16 carrier will provide more reliable function, more solid follow up shots, and generally a better choice

The differences are subtle, but many will go a long way for that extra one-half of one percent improvement

Posted: 3/15/2006 9:39:45 AM EDT

[#3]

They will function exactly the same in an AR15. I defy anyone to prove otherwise.

Posted: 3/15/2006 9:40:32 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Conventional wisdom says the M16 carrier will provide more reliable function, more solid follow up shots, and generally a better choice

The differences are subtle, but many will go a long way for that extra one-half of one percent improvement

true, but there is usually little or no price difference between an AR BCG and an M-16 BCG.

if you are going to put one of each in fornt of me, and make them the same price, i'll take the 16 BCG since i'm getting that 1/2% for 0% more.

Posted: 3/15/2006 10:34:49 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
They will function exactly the same in an AR15. I defy anyone to prove otherwise.

Amen. If your rifle is not cycling reliably, the problem IS NOT the BCG! (Unless the gas key is loose...)

Posted: 3/15/2006 10:35:44 AM EDT

[#6]

Um, if at work you have auto lowers or your friend at the range or whatever, then you could put your upper on that lower if you had a m16 BC. But no there is not a huge difference. The m16 carrier has more mass, kinda like using a heavyer buffer, but its so little more I dont think it matters.

= buy what you find cheap.

Posted: 3/15/2006 10:54:13 AM EDT

[#7]

Depending on the semi auto carrier you are compairing it to, on the M16 carrier - it is the carrier that cocks the hammer and not the firing pin.

The M16 platform has tens of 1000s of hours and millions and millions of dollars in R&D and historical data. All of it is based on the weight of the M16 carrier and not the lighter civilian carrier. I use a M16 carrier in all of my personal stuff. There is certainly no disadvantage to it. And there is no advantage to the semi carrier.

That said, I have never trouble shot a problem that could be fixed by simply changing over to a heavier M16 carrier. So I would not recommend anyone go out of their way to replace their semi carriers with M16 versions.

Posted: 3/15/2006 11:05:36 AM EDT

[#8]

The bottom line is...

BOTH SHOULD BE BANNED FROM CIVILIAN USE!

Posted: 3/15/2006 11:06:39 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
I'm thinking about making my AR into an M-16. Is there a reliability difference or anything with the M-16's extra metal on the bolt carrier? Or is the AR configuration better?

efxguy

Posted: 3/15/2006 11:12:13 AM EDT

[#10]

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Posted: 3/15/2006 11:12:55 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
The bottom line is...

BOTH SHOULD BE BANNED FROM CIVILIAN USE!

Posted: 3/15/2006 11:31:07 AM EDT

[#12]

by "make" i was referring to obtaining a Class3 and slapping it on a full auto lower. And if that doesn't work out i'll probably just put the carrier in my AR. I have never seen anybody walking around the range opening AR's and checking the parts. Hell i've seen police getting M-16 parts for people at the range, people with no class 3 or form4

Posted: 3/15/2006 12:49:54 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
by "make" i was referring to obtaining a Class3 and slapping it on a full auto lower.

Cool! As long as you keep everything legal, Good buddy!

Posted: 3/15/2006 1:03:09 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

Cool! As long as you keep everything legal, Good buddy! hr

I have to keep everything legal. My mom is an internal auditor

Posted: 3/15/2006 1:07:40 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
They will function exactly the same in an AR15. I defy anyone to prove otherwise.

Take a look at all the posts complaining about the notched hammer of the AR15 catching the collar of the firing pin and either causing malfunctions or just bending the snot out of the firing pin retaining pin, eating up the firing pin collar, etc.

That won't happen with an M16 carrier because it has a shrouded firing pin (as do the "Enhanced" AR15 bolt carriers).

Posted: 3/15/2006 1:11:25 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
The bottom line is...

BOTH SHOULD BE BANNED FROM CIVILIAN USE!

www.careerbuilder.com/monk-e-mail/?mid=5129165

Posted: 3/15/2006 1:55:50 PM EDT

[#17]

where do the sell m16 bolt carriers?

Posted: 3/17/2006 5:23:39 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
where do the sell m16 bolt carriers?

Stores last I checked.

http://www.fulton-armory.com/

Posted: 3/17/2006 5:29:00 PM EDT

[#19]

Now if only POF would sell me a P-416 carrier...

TS

ETA: Are 6.8 carriers AR15 or M-16???

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