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Posted: 10/5/2003 7:38:42 AM EDT
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So, our Special Forces, SEALs, Delta, and other highspeed operators all use the AK and it's variants? I knew they were hiding something from us all along...[rolleyes] |
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Posted: 10/5/2003 8:10:07 AM EDT
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Pretty obvious, methinks.
Lighter. Smaller. Nifty optical sights on most examples. I used mine in a carbine course and was pretty happy with it. YMMV. |
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Posted: 10/5/2003 8:35:00 AM EDT
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Scott:
that's a pretty provocative statement re. use of AK's by our troops. I won't event take the bait on that one. But, hey maybe you will get traffic on your site. good luck |
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Posted: 10/5/2003 8:40:12 AM EDT
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The AK and AR have distinct sound signatures. Id be using an AK in a hostle environment so they would think it was their buddy shooting at the enemy, unaware I will soon be shooting at them...
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Posted: 10/5/2003 9:19:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: The AK and AR have distinct sound signatures. Id be using an AK in a hostle environment so they would think it was their buddy shooting at the enemy, unaware I will soon be shooting at them... |
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Posted: 10/5/2003 9:24:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: Well, other than my constructive use of the word "need" and all the facts of gun ownership. I was wanting to know the advantages of the m4 over the standard ar-15. I think that it has been built up in the movies. Funny thing is that the guys that actually use these things (special forces exc.) all have aks or ak varants. Does that say anything to me. I think so. But check out my site anyway www.tradefirearms.com |
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Posted: 10/5/2003 9:47:47 AM EDT
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Hop, do you know the real reason why they would be using AK's?
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Posted: 10/5/2003 10:14:10 AM EDT
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I am not hop but I will answer your question anyway:
Field expedient solution - availability of ammo and weapons on battlefield if you are low and don't have resupply. Sterile ops. - do not want US made weapons used. |
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Posted: 10/5/2003 10:17:30 AM EDT
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ok, im no expert but what i have read on the subject of what special teams use are several types of weapons. what ever fits best for the operation, they have a vast array of weapons to choose from which include Aks and other arms. i think that they pick and choose wisely for the op.
like when the special ops were running around in bahgdad before the first strike i would think they would have had AKs to stay covert among the vermin that they were mixed in with, if they carried whacked out M4s they wouldnt blend in to well, AKs would be smarter in that situation. just my thoughts. |
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Posted: 10/5/2003 2:00:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Funny thing is that the guys that actually use these things (special forces exc.) all have aks or ak varants. Wrong. Some armored vehicle crews in Iraq got permission to use AKs because there werent enough M4s to go around and a Beretta doesnt cut it at keeping a guy with an RPG from smoking you at close range. The pics of the members of TF20 standing over the bodies of Uday and Qusay's bodies were well armed with some nice high speed M4 variants. |
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Posted: 10/5/2003 5:36:16 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hop, do you know the real reason why they would be using AK's? There have been two circumstances where AKs were used: - As Lumpy said, we had a bunch of tank crews armed with M9 pistols who had to dismount and patrol on foot. - Green Berets working directly with indiginous forces (i.e. anti-Taliban forces in Afghanistan) where everybody around them also had an AK and 5.56mm resupply was a long way off. Edited to add that they put in a special request for custom modified M4s that would allow them to use locally available AK mags and ammo without giving up the M4 design that they considered far superior. |
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Posted: 10/6/2003 8:13:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: Edited to add that they put in a special request for custom modified M4s that would allow them to use locally available AK mags and ammo without giving up the M4 design that they considered far superior. Absolutlely true - I've got the SOCOM Budget Request touching on that subject in the documents section at my website. |
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