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1/22/2020 12:12:56 PM
Posted: 9/20/2009 6:59:57 AM EST
From what I understand, the standard DMR is a 20" Ar-15/ m16 with an acog. the Marksman is trained to shoot precision shots out to 500m. in your opinion, can the same thing be done with a 16" barrel ar-15 carbine with an acog?
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:04:48 AM EST
The US Army 2005 Infantry Designated Marksman Strategy (Doctrine, Operations, Training, Materiel, Leadership and Education, Personnel, and Facilities) specified the DM weapon should be an M4 carbine with ACOG, with improved trigger and 77-grain match ammo if available. Further recommendation was for a free-float rail system.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:08:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By Sinister:
The US Army 2005 Infantry Designated Marksman Strategy (Doctrine, Operations, Training, Materiel, Leadership and Education, Personnel, and Facilities) specified the DM weapon should be an M4 carbine with ACOG, with improved trigger and 77-grain match ammo if available. Further recommendation was for a free-float rail system.


Much thanks for this information!
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:10:46 AM EST
5th post from above shows some interesting pics
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=111334

as far as I know that project is dead

Link Posted: 9/20/2009 7:48:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2009 7:49:34 AM EST by ICEAGE]
Ehh yeah, awhile back I believe a member here (in the military) mentioned they'd been able to make reasonably accurate shots at 900 meters with an M4 and Acog. (Just punching paper)


Also, I believe the IDF has DM that use an M4 and Acog.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 8:44:48 AM EST
I have not had good success with a 16" (1:9) at 600 yards. I use a 20". I would definitely suggest a 1:7 twist for the longer, heavier bullets, like 77gr. The bullet weight is the most important thing, and getting a barrel to twist it. The longer the barrel, the more time to get the twist working, and the higher the muzzle velocity, both critical for long distance. Trigger is VERY important.
Link Posted: 9/20/2009 9:01:10 AM EST
Originally Posted By Frens:
5th post from above shows some interesting pics
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=111334

as far as I know that project is dead



That's pretty cool. I've been thinking about building a M16A4'ish clone but with a WOA SS barrel.

A 16" M4 is more than capable of making accurate hits out to 600yds. I just heard of a kill with a 10.5" at 500yds! The shooter has more to do with it than the equipment.
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