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Posted: 7/30/2005 8:57:14 AM EDT
Law Enforcement Marked Bushmaster M-4 Patrolman Carbine, 16" M-4 profile barrel with A-2 flash hider, A-3 upper with removable carry handle, 6 position telestock, Bushmaster hard case, sling, owners manual, 30 round mag.. $880.00

did I get a good deal on this gun? and is it top of Bushmaster class?
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:15:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 9:16:09 AM EDT by Stickman]

Originally Posted By Hylton:
Law Enforcement Marked Bushmaster M-4 Patrolman Carbine, 16" M-4 profile barrel with A-2 flash hider, A-3 upper with removable carry handle, 6 position telestock, Bushmaster hard case, sling, owners manual, 30 round mag.. $880.00

did I get a good deal on this gun? and is it top of Bushmaster class?



That price is fine, there will no doubt be people who pop up and post that they have seen them cheaper, but many places are more expensive. I would say you did good.


Bushmaster doesn't have different "classes" of products, they are all solid weapons.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:23:14 AM EDT
Congrats on a nice buy. Now bring on the pictures!
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:30:09 AM EDT
Good weapon at a good price. You did good. I returned the one I had on layaway. It was 1020. At 880 that is 140 bucks cheaper than I was paying.

Max
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:45:24 AM EDT
anyone know a good website that sells good AR upgrades?
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:46:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By maxell27:
Good weapon at a good price. You did good.
Max



I agree with Max

and as civilian Bushmaster carbines go, it is the top of its class.

You could shoot it just like it is and be good to go, or as many have done, replace the handguards with the M4 style (larger), or FF rail set-up and spend a small fortune tricking it out.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:46:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 9:47:17 AM EDT by Billmanweh]

Originally Posted By Hylton:
anyone know a good website that sells good AR upgrades?




Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:49:01 AM EDT
Overtime will the Law Enforcement/Government marked Bushmasters be worth more? Are they better then a civilian modals?
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 4:03:57 PM EDT
Calm down Billmanweh... I'm not sure he knows about the EE yet...

But Hylton, for future reference, here at AR15.com's very own Equipment Exchange, you can find the BEST deals. Hands down.

Welcome to the site and congrats on a fine purchase!

(I'm not much newer than you are. You'll eventually come to find that this site is and incredibly valuable resource. I can't imagine owning my AR without it.)
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 4:10:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 4:50:56 PM EDT by Stryfe]

Originally Posted By m4bandit:
(I'm not much newer than you are. You'll eventually come to find that this site is and incredibly valuable resource. I can't imagine owning my AR without it.)


I can.
I'd have one M4gery and be perfectly happy.
Instead I have a safe full of the little bastards.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 4:18:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hylton:
Law Enforcement Marked Bushmaster M-4 Patrolman Carbine, 16" M-4 profile barrel with A-2 flash hider, A-3 upper with removable carry handle, 6 position telestock, Bushmaster hard case, sling, owners manual, 30 round mag.. $880.00

did I get a good deal on this gun? and is it top of Bushmaster class?



I haven't seen any store sell one at even near 880. I think you got a good deal.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 4:26:12 PM EDT
There's a Colt comment in here somewhere...


Anyways, you did good, congrats on the sweet weapon.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 4:41:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Originally Posted By m4bandit:
(I'm not much newer than you are. You'll eventually come to find that this site is and incredibly valuable resource. I can't imagine owning my AR without it.)


I can.
I'd have an M4gery and be perfectly happen.
Instead I have a safe full of the little bastards.


Link Posted: 7/30/2005 4:50:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hylton:
Overtime will the Law Enforcement/Government marked Bushmasters be worth more? Are they better then a civilian modals?



No, they aren't any different and they aren't worth anymore.


As far as websites for AR upgrades, I guess it would be a question of what parts you think need upgrading....
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:14:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 5:15:34 PM EDT by BuddyLee_Wannabe]
I got the exact same model Bushmaster as you did. Only mine cost about 925$, with tax it came out to about 1000$. Im still waiting for mine to come in to the gunstore thoughhould.

Edited: Spelling
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:19:35 PM EDT
I paid a hair more than $1k for the exact same model the day the ban ended
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:25:19 PM EDT
You got a pretty good deal, I paid $950 for a M4A2 2 years ago.

Congrats on a great carbine and welcome aboard!
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 8:12:29 PM EDT
You did well.

My first was a BM. Good choice.

Welcome.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 2:12:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hispeedal2:
You did well.

My first was a BM. Good choice.

Welcome.



+1
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 4:33:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 4:34:12 AM EDT by 64FXR]
gotcha beat, 850 out the door. only thing is, im stuck in germany and wont be able to play with mine for another 3 months nice choice by the way.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 10:45:57 AM EDT
That is a pretty good price.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:03:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 1:04:20 PM EDT by m4bandit]
Haha, yes, I understand...

I started planning my next AR purchase the day I left the shop with my Bushmaster M4A3.

Needless to say, my wallet has been mighty skinny since then. h
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:06:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
I paid a hair more than $1k for the exact same model the day the ban ended



I paid 850.00 the same day for the exact same model on gunbroker.com
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:11:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AROKIE:

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
I paid a hair more than $1k for the exact same model the day the ban ended



I paid 850.00 the same day for the exact same model on gunbroker.com



yeah, but I shot my LEO marked no-ban gun on the day the ban expired dork
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:18:08 PM EDT
.....and I was shooting stamped guns long before the AWB ended.

Who cares? Its a good gun, the original poster got a good price, and thats what the thread is all about.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:27:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 1:33:54 PM EDT by Hylton]
I'm glad you guys think I got a good deal, I ordered her off of GunsAmerica from a dealer in Arkansas, Knesek Guns they have some super deals 5%

Pics of my new gun



Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:32:30 PM EDT
Before I ordered my M4A3 my uncle urged me to go with an Armalite and not a Bushy, did I make the right choice on the make going with Bushmaster?
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:34:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 1:36:27 PM EDT by Stickman]
Yes you did.



ETA- Have you fired it yet?
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:37:48 PM EDT
Not in yet, it should be here by Thursday or Friday, the wait is killing me.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:42:38 PM EDT
One thing has been bother me for the last week, I called Bushmaster and asked them about barrel ware and when the barrel will need replaced, they told me on chrome barrels I will start to lose accuracy after as many rounds as 16,000, then I’ll have to replace the barrel at 20,000. When the barrel does go out can I install another one myself at home?
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:51:08 PM EDT
First of all, most people on this baord will never shoot 20,000 rounds through their all their weapons put together, so most companies through out a BS number that really means nothing.

Secondly, the way you fire and treat the weapon will have more to do with how long the barrel lasts than the amount of rounds you put through it. If you do all your shooting at a bench shooting, slowfire only range, the barrel will last much much longer. If you are running CQB drills, don't expect it to do as well as the guy who only slow fires. Either way, it isn't a big deal to change the barrel.

I have a Bushmaster barrel that I beat on without mercy (loads of CQB drills). It still shoots well enough to make head shots at 100 yards without any problem, and while that isn't good enough for many people, it is more than good enough for me.

I guess my answer is to not worry about it.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 2:04:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 2:07:57 PM EDT by Hylton]
I dont know much about the .223 round, so I was wanting to learn some things

1: Can a FMJ .223 penetrate a bullet proof vest?

2: Penetrate through a car door and out the other side?

And what does the military use in the .223, FMJ?
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 2:13:39 PM EDT
www.ammo-oracle.com will answer all of your ammunition questions. Read it first, and you will be doing yourself a great favor.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 2:14:36 PM EDT
You got a good price. 10% obove dealer cost.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 3:30:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 3:34:31 PM EDT by Hylton]
great link Stickman, thanks

do you know th twist rate in my A3?
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 4:31:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hylton:
great link Stickman, thanks

do you know th twist rate in my A3?



It should be 1/9 twist.

Congrads on your first AR and at a good price.

SteyrAUG sold me my first AR, a Bushmaster. Out the door was $905.

Don't worry about wearing out your barrel. Feed it quality ammo often and keep the barrel clean.

HS1
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 4:46:33 PM EDT
I’ve herd good and bad things about Wolf ammunition, should I use it? Or should I spend a little more and go with Remington or Federal?
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 5:24:00 PM EDT
I just sold my LEO Bushmaster for $850 to buy a Bushmaster Modular

I looked around the internet and the average price was around $950-1050 for an LEO

I don't want to get into a pissing contest with anybody about ammo, so I will just say that I stuck with the XM193 ammo so I didn't have to learn any lessons on my own. A lot of people shoot the less expensive ammo and never have a single issue. I will say that the Bushmasters my friends had were pumping the Wolf and Silver Bear with no issues. I don't think it's all that bad
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 5:36:35 PM EDT
Not a bad price at all. Picked up a Bushmaster M4A2 post-ban rifle with the mini-Y compensator a few months before the BAN ended for $820 + tax.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 5:42:21 PM EDT
BIKECOP29,

If you are LE, you should be seeing prices around $880 for the M4A3 without any problem.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 5:42:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BIKECOP29:
Not a bad price at all. Picked up a Bushmaster M4A2 post-ban rifle with the mini-Y compensator a few months before the BAN ended for $820 + tax.



why didnt you wait for the ban to end??
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