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Posted: 1/16/2022 11:39:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2022 1:03:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARguy81: Been keeping an eye out for the 14.5 SOCOM barrels and haven't seen any reasonably priced lately. They are going for over $1000 on GB, is that normal? Get on a waiting list with any or all of the major supply houses. There is no way in hell that I would pay a grand for a SOCOM barrel. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2022 1:09:44 PM EDT
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Would a Troy rail be acceptable? Meaning did they use them at all?
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Posted: 1/16/2022 1:28:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARguy81: Been keeping an eye out for the 14.5 SOCOM barrels and haven't seen any reasonably priced lately. They are going for over $1000 on GB, is that normal? I posted one on the EE with Colt 14.5 SOCOM block 2 in the description recently. It sat for a few days with zero interest and I took it down and decided to keep it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 1:44:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/06CBD6C7-D452-497E-9DED-8AB882418183_jpe-2242213.JPG |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 1:53:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rsatch: I posted one on the EE with Colt 14.5 SOCOM block 2 in the description recently. It sat for a few days with zero interest and I took it down and decided to keep it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rsatch: Originally Posted By ARguy81: Been keeping an eye out for the 14.5 SOCOM barrels and haven't seen any reasonably priced lately. They are going for over $1000 on GB, is that normal? I posted one on the EE with Colt 14.5 SOCOM block 2 in the description recently. It sat for a few days with zero interest and I took it down and decided to keep it. You should sell it on GB. |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 9:50:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theodoric: That barrel looks like a 16". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theodoric: Originally Posted By LsuJon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/06CBD6C7-D452-497E-9DED-8AB882418183_jpe-2242213.JPG Agreed. |
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Posted: 1/17/2022 1:28:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theodoric: That barrel looks like a 16". |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 2:04:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2022 2:04:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2022 2:09:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: https://i.imgur.com/sdRxMJI.jpg Hot lineup. Which is your favorite? |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 2:11:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Honda4828: Hot lineup. Which is your favorite? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Honda4828: Originally Posted By HD2006: https://i.imgur.com/sdRxMJI.jpg Hot lineup. Which is your favorite? URGI is getting the most use right now. Mainly because I want to get used to shooting with an LPVO. However the non FSP with Elcan will forever be my favorite. |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 3:02:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2022 6:03:51 PM EDT
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Would be cool if the other socom units adopt the RIS III. I wouldn't be surprised if we see individual purchases though.
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Posted: 1/18/2022 6:13:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Would be cool if the other socom units adopt the RIS III. I wouldn't be surprised if we see individual purchases though. Agreed. Press info shows similar rail sizes aswell, I'm more interested in the weight differences between the two. I'd happily chop up a spare Cqbr upper to try one out. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 6:36:12 PM EDT
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I just got my stripped m4a1 upper from brownells - unfortunately the upper reciever is marked Daniel Defense (I was hoping they were still shipping the blank uppers but no dice).
Possibly stupid question: If I go ahead and get this setup Pin/weld with a 4 prong - will I be able to switch out the upper for one that is unmarked at a later time or do I need to do that before I pin/weld? Worried that I will not be able to uninstall/re-install rail system around a welded 4 prong... |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 6:37:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: I just got my stripped m4a1 upper from brownells - unfortunately the upper reciever is marked Daniel Defense (I was hoping they were still shipping the blank uppers but no dice). Possibly stupid question: If I go ahead and get this setup Pin/weld with a 4 prong - will I be able to switch out the upper for one that is unmarked at a later time or do I need to do that before I pin/weld? Worried that I will not be able to uninstall/re-install rail system around a welded 4 prong... You can but I would switch out the upper first. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: I just got my stripped m4a1 upper from brownells - unfortunately the upper reciever is marked Daniel Defense (I was hoping they were still shipping the blank uppers but no dice). Possibly stupid question: If I go ahead and get this setup Pin/weld with a 4 prong - will I be able to switch out the upper for one that is unmarked at a later time or do I need to do that before I pin/weld? Worried that I will not be able to uninstall/re-install rail system around a welded 4 prong... I was pretty bummed about that as well when I received mine. I haven’t done a pin/weld yet because I’ve been contemplating what to do now. Do I spend more money and look for a colt upper, or just use it as is and be done with it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:14:01 PM EDT
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If you even think you might want to change it out then now is a good time. Colt parts can be feast or famine and right now there seems to be plenty of uppers out there.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:15:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: You can but I would switch out the upper first. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: I just got my stripped m4a1 upper from brownells - unfortunately the upper reciever is marked Daniel Defense (I was hoping they were still shipping the blank uppers but no dice). Possibly stupid question: If I go ahead and get this setup Pin/weld with a 4 prong - will I be able to switch out the upper for one that is unmarked at a later time or do I need to do that before I pin/weld? Worried that I will not be able to uninstall/re-install rail system around a welded 4 prong... You can but I would switch out the upper first. It’s really easy to swap the receiver on a non FSP. It really wouldn’t make a difference if the flash hider is installed or not. Now an FSP upper, that’s a different story. Still possible with a pin/weld flash hider but a much bigger pain. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:17:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: You can but I would switch out the upper first. So its doable but a big pain? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:22:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevieJ309: If you even think you might want to change it out then now is a good time. Colt parts can be feast or famine and right now there seems to be plenty of uppers out there. If I can change it later its not a big deal - I just wanted to make sure it was possible before I sent stuff off to adco (they are still the go-to right?). |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:24:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: It’s really easy to swap the receiver on a non FSP. It really wouldn’t make a difference if the flash hider is installed or not. Now an FSP upper, that’s a different story. Still possible with a pin/weld flash hider but a much bigger pain. Please explain how it's "really easy" when you have muzzle device pinned. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:34:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: I was pretty bummed about that as well when I received mine. I haven’t done a pin/weld yet because I’ve been contemplating what to do now. Do I spend more money and look for a colt upper, or just use it as is and be done with it. Big Tex has cage code stripped uppers in stock, if you're looking for one. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:45:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HD2006]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Please explain how it's "really easy" when you have muzzle device pinned. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By HD2006: It’s really easy to swap the receiver on a non FSP. It really wouldn’t make a difference if the flash hider is installed or not. Now an FSP upper, that’s a different story. Still possible with a pin/weld flash hider but a much bigger pain. Please explain how it's "really easy" when you have muzzle device pinned. This is strictly for non FSP RIS II’s. Unbolt and remove rail from bolt up plate, remove gas tube. Loosen barrel nut and slide off receiver and down the barrel. Remove barrel and bolt up plate, bolt up plate is between the receiver and barrel nut. Reverse process to reinstall on new receiver. For a receiver swap I wouldn’t remove the muzzle device even if it wasn’t pinned/welded. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:54:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: This is strictly for non FSP RIS II’s. Unbolt and remove rail from bolt up plate, remove gas tube. Loosen barrel nut and slide off receiver and down the barrel. Remove barrel and bolt up plate, bolt up plate is between the receiver and barrel nut. Reverse process to reinstall on new receiver. For a receiver swap I wouldn’t remove the muzzle device even if it wasn’t pinned/welded. What about the M203 hangers that don't fit over the muzzle device? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 7:59:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: What about the M203 hangers that don't fit over the muzzle device? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By HD2006: This is strictly for non FSP RIS II’s. Unbolt and remove rail from bolt up plate, remove gas tube. Loosen barrel nut and slide off receiver and down the barrel. Remove barrel and bolt up plate, bolt up plate is between the receiver and barrel nut. Reverse process to reinstall on new receiver. For a receiver swap I wouldn’t remove the muzzle device even if it wasn’t pinned/welded. What about the M203 hangers that don't fit over the muzzle device? Fair point, I don’t have those installed. I suppose my point is moot if the M203 hangers are still installed. Is it possible to remove them with the rail installed? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 8:10:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Fair point, I don’t have those installed. I suppose my point is moot if the M203 hangers are still installed. Is it possible to remove them with the rail installed? I think I may have done it once with a cut down Allen key but I don't remember if it was possible or not. Definitely more room with an NT4 vs a 4 prong if you are going to try it. You can slide the rail forward a couple of inches at least and kind of access the barrel nut with the rail dangling off the barrel at least. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 8:11:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bman2k]
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Do you guys recommend pinning the gas block? Would a BCM low profile gas block also fit under the RIS II rail if I can’t find the Daniel Defense MK12?
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Posted: 1/19/2022 8:40:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: If I can change it later its not a big deal - I just wanted to make sure it was possible before I sent stuff off to adco (they are still the go-to right?). Your gas block and barrel nut will be permanently with the barrel (until you get the flash hider unpinned) but everything else is removable. You can still slide a non fsp rail off relatively easily and I have done it. Like mentioned before you will have to remove the 203 hangers. I did mine with a full size Allen key and all it took was some maneuvering of the rail and barrel and some patience. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 9:30:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Fair point, I don’t have those installed. I suppose my point is moot if the M203 hangers are still installed. Is it possible to remove them with the rail installed? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Originally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By HD2006: This is strictly for non FSP RIS II’s. Unbolt and remove rail from bolt up plate, remove gas tube. Loosen barrel nut and slide off receiver and down the barrel. Remove barrel and bolt up plate, bolt up plate is between the receiver and barrel nut. Reverse process to reinstall on new receiver. For a receiver swap I wouldn’t remove the muzzle device even if it wasn’t pinned/welded. What about the M203 hangers that don't fit over the muzzle device? Fair point, I don’t have those installed. I suppose my point is moot if the M203 hangers are still installed. Is it possible to remove them with the rail installed? I just did a upper swap last week on non front sight post, that still had the hangers installed. It is a SBR so it’s not pinned and welded, but I never removed the flash hider, or the gas block, I did have to remove the lower rail panel, but that was it. Quick, well is quick as it can be to swap uppers.on a side note I didn’t even remove the gas tube as it doesn’t interfere with the barrel nut anyway. I think the FSP would be the same as other than having to remove the front sight to slide it forward, it’s been so long since I did one of those so from memory I think it’s doable as well, you can’t reinstall the front sight until the rail is in place anyway? Like I said I may be wrong as it’s been a couple of years since I did one of those. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 9:32:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: What about the M203 hangers that don't fit over the muzzle device? Those actually come off. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 10:34:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Those actually come off. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Originally Posted By pezboytate: What about the M203 hangers that don't fit over the muzzle device? Those actually come off. I left mine on as I continue to kick around the idea of getting a M203 then if the mounts are still on it I do remove them, (I did on another) and couldn’t find them anywhere so I figured they ended up getting tossed. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 7:30:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: Get on a waiting list with any or all of the major supply houses. There is no way in hell that I would pay a grand for a SOCOM barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By ARguy81: Been keeping an eye out for the 14.5 SOCOM barrels and haven't seen any reasonably priced lately. They are going for over $1000 on GB, is that normal? Get on a waiting list with any or all of the major supply houses. There is no way in hell that I would pay a grand for a SOCOM barrel. Just got a email in stock at G&R |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:32:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Herk-Healer: Just got a email in stock at G&R Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Herk-Healer: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By ARguy81: Been keeping an eye out for the 14.5 SOCOM barrels and haven't seen any reasonably priced lately. They are going for over $1000 on GB, is that normal? Get on a waiting list with any or all of the major supply houses. There is no way in hell that I would pay a grand for a SOCOM barrel. Just got a email in stock at G&R Appreciate the look bro. Just got a stripped socom  @ARguy81 @Herk-Healer |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:36:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ARguy81]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Honda4828: Appreciate the look bro. Just got a stripped socom @ARguy81 @Herk-Healer Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Honda4828: Originally Posted By Herk-Healer: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By ARguy81: Been keeping an eye out for the 14.5 SOCOM barrels and haven't seen any reasonably priced lately. They are going for over $1000 on GB, is that normal? Get on a waiting list with any or all of the major supply houses. There is no way in hell that I would pay a grand for a SOCOM barrel. Just got a email in stock at G&R Appreciate the look bro. Just got a stripped socom @ARguy81 @Herk-Healer Heck Yeah! Now, are these barrels .625 or .750? I have a spare A frame FSB and will use that if it fits. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:15:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Duck_Hunt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARguy81: Heck Yeah! Now, are these barrels .625 or .750? I have a spare A frame FSB and will use that if it fits. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARguy81: Originally Posted By Honda4828: Originally Posted By Herk-Healer: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By ARguy81: Been keeping an eye out for the 14.5 SOCOM barrels and haven't seen any reasonably priced lately. They are going for over $1000 on GB, is that normal? Get on a waiting list with any or all of the major supply houses. There is no way in hell that I would pay a grand for a SOCOM barrel. Just got a email in stock at G&R Appreciate the look bro. Just got a stripped socom @ARguy81 @Herk-Healer Heck Yeah! Now, are these barrels .625 or .750? I have a spare A frame FSB and will use that if it fits. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but Socoms and true government profiles should all be .750 gbj. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:30:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Honda4828: Someone correct me if I’m wrong but Socoms and true government profiles should all be .750 gbj. That’s correct. Brownells has Colt Socom fsb barrels in stock. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 11:45:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Duck_Hunt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FONTY: That’s correct. Brownells has Colt Socom fsb barrels in stock. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FONTY: Originally Posted By Honda4828: Someone correct me if I’m wrong but Socoms and true government profiles should all be .750 gbj. That’s correct. Brownells has Colt Socom fsb barrels in stock. Ayup. As an FYI For anyone looking G&r has the fsb socom for $315 and Brownells has it for $350. G&R didn’t charge tax either. The stripped socom is OOS now at g&r. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 12:33:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Honda4828: Ayup. As an FYI For anyone looking G&r has the fsb socom for $315 and Brownells has it for $350. G&R didn’t charge tax either. The stripped socom is OOS now at g&r. That’s a good price from G&R, they also have stripped Colt 10.3 for $230. I missed the stripped Socom barrels 
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Posted: 1/20/2022 3:38:59 PM EDT
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any one have set of these rail covers they are willing to part with? The three piece set one not the ladder panel.
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Posted: 1/20/2022 3:59:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: any one have set of these rail covers they are willing to part with? The three piece set one not the ladder panel. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/A9CAECA6-98C4-4252-BF4E-5F529DD2F963_jpe-2247568.JPG No but I want that rail! 
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Posted: 1/20/2022 4:31:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: any one have set of these rail covers they are willing to part with? The three piece set one not the ladder panel. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/A9CAECA6-98C4-4252-BF4E-5F529DD2F963_jpe-2247568.JPG I might I'll look when I get home |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 8:42:50 PM EDT
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So I got one of those big Tex uppers to fix this DD marked Bullshit from Brownells...
Now I am hunting for a lower. Is something like this from TNT going to give me close enough markings or do I have to go to CCC route? Any better-priced options avail I am missing? https://www.tntgear.com/catalog/product-detail.php?ID=4263 https://charliescustomclones.com/colt-carbine-lower-receiver-complete-2020-2021-production/ |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:15:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: So I got one of those big Tex uppers to fix this DD marked Bullshit from Brownells... Now I am hunting for a lower. Is something like this from TNT going to give me close enough markings or do I have to go to CCC route? Any better-priced options avail I am missing? https://www.tntgear.com/catalog/product-detail.php?ID=4263 https://charliescustomclones.com/colt-carbine-lower-receiver-complete-2020-2021-production/ |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:29:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Ccc sucks. Avoid at all costs. This! |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:32:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: So I got one of those big Tex uppers to fix this DD marked Bullshit from Brownells... Now I am hunting for a lower. Is something like this from TNT going to give me close enough markings or do I have to go to CCC route? Any better-priced options avail I am missing? https://www.tntgear.com/catalog/product-detail.php?ID=4263 https://charliescustomclones.com/colt-carbine-lower-receiver-complete-2020-2021-production/ Lots of guys have used Palmetto State Armory's "M4A1" marked stripped lower. They look really nice on a clone build. |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:37:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HAMBURGERATTACK]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Lots of guys have used Palmetto State Armory's "M4A1" marked stripped lower. They look really nice on a clone build. Do these come in stock often? I would take this or the areo precision m4a1 clone lower in a heartbeat... |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 9:46:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: Do these come in stock often? I would take this or the areo precision m4a1 clone lower in a heartbeat... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Lots of guys have used Palmetto State Armory's "M4A1" marked stripped lower. They look really nice on a clone build. Do these come in stock often? I would take this or the areo precision m4a1 clone lower in a heartbeat... Looks like they're out of stock at the moment, but yes - it's usually not long before they're in stock again. |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2022 10:00:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mdewey12]
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I have quite a big pile of those DD rail covers if you or anyone else is interested. Also does anyone know if the EXPS3-2s were issued/purchased or just the EXPS3-0s. Thanks
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