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Originally Posted By nf9648:
Just waiting on a RAS, side sling swivel, and KAC QD flash hider... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/Guns/DSC02465_zps2af100f8.jpg If you find a place selling the flash hider PM me. I'm looking for one myself. |
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Originally Posted By Merdoc:
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Just waiting on a RAS, side sling swivel, and KAC QD flash hider... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/Guns/DSC02465_zps2af100f8.jpg If you find a place selling the flash hider PM me. I'm looking for one myself. I know where you can get a new in the box KAC QD, PM inbound. |
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I like the paint scheme. In case you're still looking, you can pick up a new blem RAS direct from KAC for $150. I went with a blem, as I knew I was going to rattle can my rig.
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Just waiting on a RAS, side sling swivel, and KAC QD flash hider... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/Guns/DSC02465_zps2af100f8.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Rothbard:
I like the paint scheme. In case you're still looking, you can pick up a new blem RAS direct from KAC for $150. I went with a blem, as I knew I was going to rattle can my rig. Originally Posted By nf9648:
Just waiting on a RAS, side sling swivel, and KAC QD flash hider... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/Guns/DSC02465_zps2af100f8.jpg The RAS should be here tomorrow, only part I haven't found is the QD flash hider. I'd hate to buy another 3t brake just so I could pull a QD off another upper... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By TREETOP:
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/treetopper/B3C71341-C389-46A3-8D0A-87E34175C1D3-1058-000001005BCFBB27_zps2c8768f6.jpg Shes a beaut! Thank you. ![]() I'm trying to decide whether to paint it or not.. |
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Originally Posted By G_MAN: Colt M4 upper, RAS, M2 in a PRI mount, LMT BUIS and SOPMOD, VTAC. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/SUPA_G_MAN/Firearms/IMG_1632.jpg obligatory feet photo As soon as I can get a Wilcox mount... |
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Colt M4 upper, RAS, M2 in a PRI mount, LMT BUIS and SOPMOD, VTAC. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/SUPA_G_MAN/Firearms/IMG_1632.jpg obligatory feet photo As soon as I can get a Wilcox mount... PRI is GTG as well. Issue item for navy MK18s. and it's available directly from PRI |
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Originally Posted By G_MAN:
PRI is GTG as well. Issue item for navy MK18s. and it's available directly from PRI View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Colt M4 upper, RAS, M2 in a PRI mount, LMT BUIS and SOPMOD, VTAC. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/SUPA_G_MAN/Firearms/IMG_1632.jpg obligatory feet photo As soon as I can get a Wilcox mount... PRI is GTG as well. Issue item for navy MK18s. and it's available directly from PRI Can you show a reference for this? I was under the impression that the PRI mount was a copy of the Wilcox. I know the Wilcox was issued to SEALs, but was not aware that the PRI was actually issued. Please correct me if I'm wrong. |
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I've never seen a PRI on any Mk18 or CQBR, I've heard reference to them but...where are they? Seem about 50+ WilcoX mounts though, fwiw,
Will P.S. the PRI does look to have less of a signature though, the thumb screw seems smaller, and hopefully of a better material. I haven't taken a magnet to my WilcoX screw but seeing how easily the metal deforms while tightening it down, I'm guessing aluminum. |
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Originally Posted By FAB-10_Guy:
Can you show a reference for this? I was under the impression that the PRI mount was a copy of the Wilcox. I know the Wilcox was issued to SEALs, but was not aware that the PRI was actually issued. Please correct me if I'm wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FAB-10_Guy:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Colt M4 upper, RAS, M2 in a PRI mount, LMT BUIS and SOPMOD, VTAC. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/SUPA_G_MAN/Firearms/IMG_1632.jpg obligatory feet photo As soon as I can get a Wilcox mount... PRI is GTG as well. Issue item for navy MK18s. and it's available directly from PRI Can you show a reference for this? I was under the impression that the PRI mount was a copy of the Wilcox. I know the Wilcox was issued to SEALs, but was not aware that the PRI was actually issued. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I was under the opposite impression. if you dig around you'll find people quoting that it is in fact in the Crane catalog, on some issued Navy CQBRs and copied by wilcox. Yes, Wilcox had the contract, but good luck finding one. regardless, it's a great mount, will do everything the wilcox will, it's available and maybe there's enough info out there that might make it ok for some to accept it for "clone" purposes. SMGLee (2006)" you are right that Wilcox riped off the PRI aimpoint mount but on my Crane catalog, the PRI mount is actualy listed instead of the Wilcox." Edit: Not that this is some verification, but, I built my "pseudo" cqbr clone in 2002 and, after researching it, all the info that I found pointed me toward the PRI. |
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Originally Posted By G_MAN:
I was under the opposite impression. if you dig around you'll find people quoting that it is in fact in the Crane catalog, on some issued Navy CQBRs and copied by wilcox. Yes, Wilcox had the contract, but good luck finding one. regardless, it's a great mount, will do everything the wilcox will, it's available and maybe there's enough info out there that might make it ok for some to accept it for "clone" purposes. SMGLee (2006)" you are right that Wilcox riped off the PRI aimpoint mount but on my Crane catalog, the PRI mount is actualy listed instead of the Wilcox." Edit: Not that this is some verification, but, I built my "pseudo" cqbr clone in 2002 and, after researching it, all the info that I found pointed me toward the PRI. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By FAB-10_Guy:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Colt M4 upper, RAS, M2 in a PRI mount, LMT BUIS and SOPMOD, VTAC. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/SUPA_G_MAN/Firearms/IMG_1632.jpg obligatory feet photo As soon as I can get a Wilcox mount... PRI is GTG as well. Issue item for navy MK18s. and it's available directly from PRI Can you show a reference for this? I was under the impression that the PRI mount was a copy of the Wilcox. I know the Wilcox was issued to SEALs, but was not aware that the PRI was actually issued. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I was under the opposite impression. if you dig around you'll find people quoting that it is in fact in the Crane catalog, on some issued Navy CQBRs and copied by wilcox. Yes, Wilcox had the contract, but good luck finding one. regardless, it's a great mount, will do everything the wilcox will, it's available and maybe there's enough info out there that might make it ok for some to accept it for "clone" purposes. SMGLee (2006)" you are right that Wilcox riped off the PRI aimpoint mount but on my Crane catalog, the PRI mount is actualy listed instead of the Wilcox." Edit: Not that this is some verification, but, I built my "pseudo" cqbr clone in 2002 and, after researching it, all the info that I found pointed me toward the PRI. Thanks for the correction, and additional details on this. |
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Originally Posted By FAB-10_Guy:
Thanks for the correction, and additional details on this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FAB-10_Guy:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By FAB-10_Guy:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By G_MAN:
Colt M4 upper, RAS, M2 in a PRI mount, LMT BUIS and SOPMOD, VTAC. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/SUPA_G_MAN/Firearms/IMG_1632.jpg obligatory feet photo As soon as I can get a Wilcox mount... PRI is GTG as well. Issue item for navy MK18s. and it's available directly from PRI Can you show a reference for this? I was under the impression that the PRI mount was a copy of the Wilcox. I know the Wilcox was issued to SEALs, but was not aware that the PRI was actually issued. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I was under the opposite impression. if you dig around you'll find people quoting that it is in fact in the Crane catalog, on some issued Navy CQBRs and copied by wilcox. Yes, Wilcox had the contract, but good luck finding one. regardless, it's a great mount, will do everything the wilcox will, it's available and maybe there's enough info out there that might make it ok for some to accept it for "clone" purposes. SMGLee (2006)" you are right that Wilcox riped off the PRI aimpoint mount but on my Crane catalog, the PRI mount is actualy listed instead of the Wilcox." Edit: Not that this is some verification, but, I built my "pseudo" cqbr clone in 2002 and, after researching it, all the info that I found pointed me toward the PRI. Thanks for the correction, and additional details on this. Brownells carries the Wilcox mount. |
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Originally Posted By Socomike:
<a href="http://s841.photobucket.com/user/paintballa698/media/fc8f085f-1779-4e29-9e11-d2434d106849_zpsefd96098.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz338/paintballa698/fc8f085f-1779-4e29-9e11-d2434d106849_zpsefd96098.jpg</a> Block 1 M4. This was a mock up. It is currently torn down and the barrel is about to leave to ADCO to be cut to 12.5. Still looking for a decently priced Wilcox mount. -Colt 6921 upper. -DPMS SBRed Lower -CAR stock -KAC RAS -Aimpoint CompM2 -LDI Otal-A Green Laser. View Quote What's a good price for the Wilcox? TNVC has them for $120 while Brownell's wants $165. |
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How incorrect is the M4 profile? If at all? Everything is being swapped for socom profile correct?
Basically what are the majority of you'll running? Not sure if I should just grab the m4 upper from bcm now or wait a bit. |
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It is my understanding that the SOCOM barrels first started showing up on the Phased Replacement rifles, the M-4 profile should be correct for an early M-4 SOPMOD style clone. See first page for more info, if anyone has any info for me to add to the first post please let me know!
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Originally Posted By rbhoover:
It is my understanding that the SOCOM barrels first started showing up on the Phased Replacement rifles, the M-4 profile should be correct for an early M-4 SOPMOD style clone. See first page for more info, if anyone has any info for me to add to the first post please let me know! View Quote I'd say it'd be a mixed bag, the Govt. didn't start using the SOCOM barrel exclusively with the M4A1 till 2003, naturally a few units would still have M4 profiles in their inventories and may still have not upgraded to the SOCOM profile. FWIW, Will |
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Originally Posted By rbhoover:
It is my understanding that the SOCOM barrels first started showing up on the Phased Replacement rifles, the M-4 profile should be correct for an early M-4 SOPMOD style clone. See first page for more info, if anyone has any info for me to add to the first post please let me know! View Quote M4A1 SOCOM profile barrels have been around nearly a decade if not longer. I've had 2 colt barrels since 2005, only M4 barrel I have now is a regular profile LMT 14.5". nothing wrong with them other than a little more weight, the extra thickness probably helps accuracy as well. |
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Originally Posted By nf9648:
M4A1 SOCOM profile barrels have been around nearly a decade if not longer. I've had 2 colt barrels since 2005, only M4 barrel I have now is a regular profile LMT 14.5". nothing wrong with them other than a little more weight, the extra thickness probably helps accuracy as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By nf9648:
Originally Posted By rbhoover:
It is my understanding that the SOCOM barrels first started showing up on the Phased Replacement rifles, the M-4 profile should be correct for an early M-4 SOPMOD style clone. See first page for more info, if anyone has any info for me to add to the first post please let me know! M4A1 SOCOM profile barrels have been around nearly a decade if not longer. I've had 2 colt barrels since 2005, only M4 barrel I have now is a regular profile LMT 14.5". nothing wrong with them other than a little more weight, the extra thickness probably helps accuracy as well. So, for the purist clone builders, the barrel really should be a SOCOM profile. Correct? |
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Originally Posted By Lepus:
So, for the purist clone builders, the barrel really should be a SOCOM profile. Correct? View Quote It should be a 14.5" Colt SOCOM profile for a true clone. The closest substitute is the BCM 14.5" SOCOM because, unlike others (e.g., PSA "SOCOM" profile), it has the lateral "flats" cut out for M203 mounting. ETA: if we ever see some surplus FN SOCOM barrels, those should be fine, too ![]() |
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PR some please post a PR.
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Originally Posted By cmcflex:
It should be a 14.5" Colt SOCOM profile for a true clone. The closest substitute is the BCM 14.5" SOCOM because, unlike others (e.g., PSA "SOCOM" profile), it has the lateral "flats" cut out for M203 mounting. ETA: if we ever see some surplus FN SOCOM barrels, those should be fine, too ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Originally Posted By Lepus:
So, for the purist clone builders, the barrel really should be a SOCOM profile. Correct? It should be a 14.5" Colt SOCOM profile for a true clone. The closest substitute is the BCM 14.5" SOCOM because, unlike others (e.g., PSA "SOCOM" profile), it has the lateral "flats" cut out for M203 mounting. ETA: if we ever see some surplus FN SOCOM barrels, those should be fine, too ![]() Thanks for clarification, going to have to pick a BCM up. |
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Originally Posted By cmcflex:
It should be a 14.5" Colt SOCOM profile for a true clone. The closest substitute is the BCM 14.5" SOCOM because, unlike others (e.g., PSA "SOCOM" profile), it has the lateral "flats" cut out for M203 mounting. ETA: if we ever see some surplus FN SOCOM barrels, those should be fine, too ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Originally Posted By Lepus:
So, for the purist clone builders, the barrel really should be a SOCOM profile. Correct? It should be a 14.5" Colt SOCOM profile for a true clone. The closest substitute is the BCM 14.5" SOCOM because, unlike others (e.g., PSA "SOCOM" profile), it has the lateral "flats" cut out for M203 mounting. ETA: if we ever see some surplus FN SOCOM barrels, those should be fine, too ![]() No, like I said earlier, the SOPMOD program had already been implemented before the SOCOM profile was available. The first SOPMOD M4A1's started coming out in the late 90's, the SOCOM profile wasn't until 2003 so again like I said, its a mixed bag of what you'll find. And for the "purist" that would depend on what you're building. This thread covers the Block I, 1.5/PR, and Block II, the Block I and PR should be either M4 or SOCOM depending on the unit doing the upgrade, the Block II undoubtedly should be a SOCOM profile. Now back to that "purist" thing, that would have to be a Colt pure and simple as no other company has supplied SOCOM barrels to this program. BCM does make good stuff but, the op asked for "purist" clone building. And what is a FN SOCOM Barrel? When were these made? In my travels the only FN barrels I saw were on M16's and of course machine guns. Are you saying FNMI supplied M4/M4A1 barrels to the Govt.? Will |
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Originally Posted By schaz42:
No, like I said earlier, the SOPMOD program had already been implemented before the SOCOM profile was available. The first SOPMOD M4A1's started coming out in the late 90's, the SOCOM profile wasn't until 2003 so again like I said, its a mixed bag of what you'll find. And for the "purist" that would depend on what you're building. This thread covers the Block I, 1.5/PR, and Block II, the Block I and PR should be either M4 or SOCOM depending on the unit doing the upgrade, the Block II undoubtedly should be a SOCOM profile. Now back to that "purist" thing, that would have to be a Colt pure and simple as no other company has supplied SOCOM barrels to this program. BCM does make good stuff but, the op asked for "purist" clone building. And what is a FN SOCOM Barrel? When were these made? In my travels the only FN barrels I saw were on M16's and of course machine guns. Are you saying FNMI supplied M4/M4A1 barrels to the Govt.? Will View Quote Fair points. FN recently won the contract to produce M4s, so that is all I meant: perhaps someday we will see surplus FN M4 barrels. That's a big perhaps. Sure, govt profile barrels are probably fine depending on what you're building. I would prefer a Colt govt profile M4 barrel over a BCM SOCOM, but that's just the purist in me. |
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Originally Posted By USP45Tim:
With a little patience, $80 or so used on the EE. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By USP45Tim:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
What's a good price for the Wilcox? TNVC has them for $120 while Brownell's wants $165. For me is was $60 or so about 5-6 years ago... ![]() |
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Originally Posted By gunnut003:
For me is was $60 or so about 5-6 years ago... ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By gunnut003:
Originally Posted By USP45Tim:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
What's a good price for the Wilcox? TNVC has them for $120 while Brownell's wants $165. For me is was $60 or so about 5-6 years ago... ![]() Ill give ya $61.00. Profit is profit my friend. |
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Originally Posted By cmcflex:
It should be a 14.5" Colt SOCOM profile for a true clone. The closest substitute is the BCM 14.5" SOCOM because, unlike others (e.g., PSA "SOCOM" profile), it has the lateral "flats" cut out for M203 mounting. ETA: if we ever see some surplus FN SOCOM barrels, those should be fine, too ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cmcflex:
Originally Posted By Lepus:
So, for the purist clone builders, the barrel really should be a SOCOM profile. Correct? It should be a 14.5" Colt SOCOM profile for a true clone. The closest substitute is the BCM 14.5" SOCOM because, unlike others (e.g., PSA "SOCOM" profile), it has the lateral "flats" cut out for M203 mounting. ETA: if we ever see some surplus FN SOCOM barrels, those should be fine, too ![]() CMMGs M4A1 SOCOM barrels were cut to the same spec as the Colt barrels as well, but I don't think they have offered them for a few years now. I ran one past 15k in a year and sold it on the EE in 08'-09', I'm sure someone is still running it hard. |
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Originally Posted By Postal0311:
I don't think I posted this here yet: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-43jF3mWEqvk/UZJ_oqdJgoI/AAAAAAAADR8/KHqoTuNfpjM/s1440/2013-05-14%252014.04.41.jpg View Quote sight fell off. |
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Any PR's with EXPS?
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
No accessories, but this is a real SF M4A1 that I fixed the other day. Of course we had to testfire it! ![]() ![]() http://imageshack.us/a/img22/4086/a92n.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img203/8519/8xai.jpg View Quote If it fires Wolf ammo it must be running good! ![]() |
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Originally Posted By rbhoover:
If it fires Wolf ammo it must be running good! ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rbhoover:
Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
No accessories, but this is a real SF M4A1 that I fixed the other day. Of course we had to testfire it! ![]() ![]() http://imageshack.us/a/img22/4086/a92n.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img203/8519/8xai.jpg If it fires Wolf ammo it must be running good! ![]() Can't comment on the usage of Wolf ammo ![]() ![]() |
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Does this smell like chloroform to you?
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Lancelot, that is a great photo of the MK18 MOD0 with replacement upper.
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WTB: Buck Tarani/ Strider Trainer Knife B554-BL
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Originally Posted By Postal0311: Lancelot, that is a great photo of the MK18 MOD0 with replacement upper. View Quote Actually, I was told that it is a Mk 18 that just got a new barrel. But if it is a Mk18 with a replacement upper, does it count as a PR since it is a replacement? We have several pictures in this thread of guns that look just like that, and or, just like that with a folding BUIS. |
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Originally Posted By Lancelot: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420649_10201028106169792_65428664_n.jpg PYONGTAEK, ROK (Mar. 20, 2010) – Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure (VBSS) Team members from Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer USS Lassen (DDG-82) conduct a boarding of Republic of Korea Navy Fast Combat Support Ship Cheonji (AOE-57). Lassen is in Korea in support of Exercise Foal Eagle 2010. (U.S. Navy photo by Damage Controlman Third Class Brian D. Barker/Released) http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8403/8694529570_d18651c4e6_b.jpg View Quote Your BCM - is that a pinned 14.5" or true SBR 14.5"?
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Your BCM - is that a pinned 14.5" or true SBR 14.5"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By Lancelot:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420649_10201028106169792_65428664_n.jpg PYONGTAEK, ROK (Mar. 20, 2010) – Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure (VBSS) Team members from Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer USS Lassen (DDG-82) conduct a boarding of Republic of Korea Navy Fast Combat Support Ship Cheonji (AOE-57). Lassen is in Korea in support of Exercise Foal Eagle 2010. (U.S. Navy photo by Damage Controlman Third Class Brian D. Barker/Released) http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8403/8694529570_d18651c4e6_b.jpg Your BCM - is that a pinned 14.5" or true SBR 14.5"? IIRC, It's pinned. It's got an A2X. |
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