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Link Posted: 7/11/2023 12:47:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: Vehemence] [#1]
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No, but I’ve had shitty luck w/other Expo Arms products…

For example, how hard is it to produce an in-spec castle nut?

I’ll stick w/KAC and P&S (or whatever they’re currently calling themselves).


Oh yeah, pic thread:



(seems the armorer forgot to strike out and re-etch the FC designations on this one )
Hydra
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 1:36:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Vehemence:


No, but I’ve had shitty luck w/other Expo Arms products…

For example, how hard is it to produce an in-spec castle nut?

I’ll stick w/KAC and P&S (or whatever they’re currently calling themselves).
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Originally Posted By Vehemence:


No, but I’ve had shitty luck w/other Expo Arms products…

For example, how hard is it to produce an in-spec castle nut?

I’ll stick w/KAC and P&S (or whatever they’re currently calling themselves).

Curious as to markings.

EXPO series is just rebranded components, I'd like to know who's making these.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 2:48:55 PM EST
[#3]
Same.  Be willing to bet it’s a P&S.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 2:59:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Raoul_Duke70:
Same.  Be willing to bet it’s a P&S.
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If so, that’s a steal. I’m tempted to get one just to inspect & review it, but I’m one of the lucky few that already has more than enough of the real deal than I (*currently) need.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 3:24:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: TGWLDR] [#5]
Originally Posted By Raoul_Duke70:
Same.  Be willing to bet it’s a P&S.
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Originally Posted By Vehemence:


If so, that’s a steal. I’m tempted to get one just to inspect & review it, but I’m one of the lucky few that already has more than enough of the real deal than I (*currently) need.
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Prudent American Technologies, Inc CAGE #8FW25 is my bet, same as the Brownells.

I could be wrong.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 3:57:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:
Anybody see these yet?

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shucks, just missed their 13% off sale.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 7:49:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:


Prudent American Technologies, Inc CAGE #8FW25 is my bet, same as the Brownells.

I could be wrong.
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If I needed an RAS I’d grab one just for the confirmation but I’m pretty certain you’d be proven correct here.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 10:05:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:


Prudent American Technologies, Inc CAGE #8FW25 is my bet, same as the Brownells.

I could be wrong.
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:
Originally Posted By Raoul_Duke70:
Same.  Be willing to bet it’s a P&S.

Originally Posted By Vehemence:


If so, that’s a steal. I’m tempted to get one just to inspect & review it, but I’m one of the lucky few that already has more than enough of the real deal than I (*currently) need.

Prudent American Technologies, Inc CAGE #8FW25 is my bet, same as the Brownells.

I could be wrong.


Wish they'd tool up for the FF RAS and MRE
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 11:00:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HipSh0T:


Wish they'd tool up for the FF RAS and MRE
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Originally Posted By HipSh0T:
Originally Posted By TGWLDR:
Originally Posted By Raoul_Duke70:
Same.  Be willing to bet it’s a P&S.

Originally Posted By Vehemence:


If so, that’s a steal. I’m tempted to get one just to inspect & review it, but I’m one of the lucky few that already has more than enough of the real deal than I (*currently) need.

Prudent American Technologies, Inc CAGE #8FW25 is my bet, same as the Brownells.

I could be wrong.


Wish they'd tool up for the FF RAS and MRE


The MK12 as well for that matter. There is a huge market sitting that KAC has no interest in apparently.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 9:48:25 AM EST
[#10]
Finally have an TA01NSN on the way to comple my block 1 build.

Did they all use the standard ACOG mounts, or is there other clone correct mounts.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 2:08:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver] [#11]
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
Finally have an TA01NSN on the way to comple my block 1 build.

Did they all use the standard ACOG mounts, or is there other clone correct mounts.
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Majority that I've seen had the standard ACOG two thumb screw mount.  Once in a blue moon I'll see a ARMS/LaRue? Quick Throw mount

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Link Posted: 7/12/2023 3:41:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

Majority that I've seen had the standard ACOG two thumb screw mount.  Once in a blue moon I'll see a ARMS/LaRue? Quick Throw mount

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/Picture_001_jpg-2883240.JPG
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By Yumago:
Finally have an TA01NSN on the way to comple my block 1 build.

Did they all use the standard ACOG mounts, or is there other clone correct mounts.

Majority that I've seen had the standard ACOG two thumb screw mount.  Once in a blue moon I'll see a ARMS/LaRue? Quick Throw mount

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/Picture_001_jpg-2883240.JPG


Every time I see an ARMS rail I feel like I need one…
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 12:49:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: nate_the_great] [#13]
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Needs a rear sight now that the CQD sling mount and end plate are setup.
Link Posted: 7/16/2023 9:27:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nate_the_great:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/381888/IMG_2652_jpeg-2886592.JPG

Needs a rear sight now that the CQD sling mount and end plate are setup.
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Nate, nice
Link Posted: 7/17/2023 9:27:31 AM EST
[#15]
@Vehemence
@Raoul_Duke70

(And anybody else interested).

EXPO ARMS RAS

M4 is currently OOS, M5 available.
Link Posted: 7/17/2023 3:26:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:
@Vehemence
@Raoul_Duke70

(And anybody else interested).

EXPO ARMS RAS

M4 is currently OOS, M5 available.
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Looks like you were right.  Outstanding price for a RAS and glad to see them more easily available after buying salty secondhand ones for $200 plus lololol.
Link Posted: 7/17/2023 3:28:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Raoul_Duke70:


Outstanding price for a RAS and glad to see them more easily available after buying salty secondhand ones for $200 plus lololol.
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Absolutely.
Link Posted: 7/17/2023 4:12:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: Vehemence] [#18]
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:
@Vehemence
@Raoul_Duke70

(And anybody else interested).

EXPO ARMS RAS

M4 is currently OOS, M5 available.
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Thanks for the info. If I end up using my spare KAC for another build and need another quad after that, I’ll consider these - assuming they’ll still be available - and at that price.

But you know what they say about assuming…

Anyway, doubt I’ll need another one for the next year or so.
Link Posted: 7/19/2023 1:30:53 PM EST
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Recon



Link Posted: 7/19/2023 1:35:42 PM EST
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You spelled SEXY wrong.


Nice rig.
Link Posted: 7/19/2023 6:26:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:

You spelled SEXY wrong.


Nice rig.
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:

You spelled SEXY wrong.


Nice rig.

This
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 8:02:37 AM EST
[#22]
ACOG finally came in, and have the standard Trijicon mount on its way as well.

I think it's finally done for the most part.

Any constructive criticism is appreciated

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Link Posted: 7/20/2023 8:14:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
ACOG finally came in, and have the standard Trijicon mount on its way as well.

I think it's finally done for the most part.

Any constructive criticism is appreciated

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/fef2284e-65c7-4155-a32d-f02877fbf1e9_jpg-2892194.JPG
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Looks good.
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:30:37 AM EST
[#24]
Got my barrel in finally
NOS 2019 made socom barrel.. the fun begins

Link Posted: 7/20/2023 11:35:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Frens:
Got my barrel in finally
NOS 2019 made socom barrel.. the fun begins

https://i.postimg.cc/X76Fb7LJ/IMG-2470.jpg
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Damn! That pic is blurry.  
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 1:15:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: Vehemence] [#26]
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
ACOG finally came in, and have the standard Trijicon mount on its way as well.

I think it's finally done for the most part.

Any constructive criticism is appreciated

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Nice. One quick change I would make would be the grip. Just swap the one you have for an F marked Colt or FN A2 grip and you’ll be in even better shape.

Good looking rifle you have there - cheers!
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 4:54:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
ACOG finally came in, and have the standard Trijicon mount on its way as well.

I think it's finally done for the most part.

Any constructive criticism is appreciated

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/fef2284e-65c7-4155-a32d-f02877fbf1e9_jpg-2892194.JPG
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Needs paint.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 5:26:16 AM EST
[#28]
Does anyone have an extra, or know where I can get the center piece for this light? I don't really want to buy another complete light

Friend took it apart at the range, it got dropped and stepped on. So now it won't screw into the body.

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Link Posted: 7/21/2023 5:52:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
Does anyone have an extra, or know where I can get the center piece for this light? I don't really want to buy another complete light

Friend took it apart at the range, it got dropped and stepped on. So now it won't screw into the body.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20230721_062426_jpg-2893162.JPG
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Is it distorted or just some dinged threads? If it's the threads, get yourself a small triangular file and clean them up.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 6:08:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Is it distorted or just some dinged threads? If it's the threads, get yourself a small triangular file and clean them up.
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I think it's a little of both. Mostly distorted at the area that threads into the body. I am trying to bend it back but so far no luck
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:04:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: Cowbell] [#31]
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
Does anyone have an extra, or know where I can get the center piece for this light? I don't really want to buy another complete light

Friend took it apart at the range, it got dropped and stepped on. So now it won't screw into the body.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20230721_062426_jpg-2893162.JPG
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Is this it? Ebay link hope it works

Link


Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:15:06 AM EST
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Similar but I don't think it would work Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:19:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
Similar but I don't think it would work https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20230721_091432_jpg-2893228.JPG
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Did a dremel try and eat that?
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:26:15 AM EST
[#34]
Reach out to SF directly,  they may surprise you.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 8:32:57 AM EST
[#35]
Impatient me, and pliers at 530am while half asleep trying to bend it back into shape. It's getting close, going to keep messing with it here and there unless I can find a replacement piece
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 9:13:32 PM EST
[#36]


JN8:12 always hits me in the feels
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 3:50:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
Impatient me, and pliers at 530am while half asleep trying to bend it back into shape. It's getting close, going to keep messing with it here and there unless I can find a replacement piece
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If you can find a proper die to fix the threads, it may fix the oblong issue as well.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:02:08 PM EST
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What tools/punch is used in M4 to M4a1 conversion? I've seen some pretty raw electro pencil action but what makes the nice x's and remarks M4a1
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 1:09:12 AM EST
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What tools/punch is used in M4 to M4a1 conversion? I've seen some pretty raw electro pencil action but what makes the nice x's and remarks M4a1
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I've seen several ways by the Army.  Stamps, grinding out and remarking and lining out with a laser and remarked.
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 1:26:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Henchovinland:
What tools/punch is used in M4 to M4a1 conversion? I've seen some pretty raw electro pencil action but what makes the nice x's and remarks M4a1
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Laser etching seems to be the way during the PIP

https://www.army.mil/article-amp/198266/anniston_techs_perform_a1_job_converting_m4_carbines_at_fort_sill

With black paint over it







carica foto online


Link Posted: 7/23/2023 5:58:35 AM EST
[#41]
Fricken laser beams it is then
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 11:20:25 AM EST
[#42]
I was watching some soldiers turn in their rifles yesterday and glimpsed some FN M4A1s. I hadn't seen one yet so that was interesting. I'll have to take a closer look next time I am at the armsroom to get my M17, or just have the armorer show me a few. I don't get to play with M4s anymore, unless we deployed to a crappy place and I would do what I did in AFG and carry an M4 and an M9.
Link Posted: 7/23/2023 11:18:22 PM EST
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What’s an acceptable rds to mount on an elcan?  Cant find any reference pics of an rmr.  Nor can i find any info in the xoptek that comes with the current ones.  And I can’t find any (or not sure if I’d want one due to lack of service on them know) doctors or insights.
Link Posted: 7/24/2023 1:30:41 AM EST
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I was watching some soldiers turn in their rifles yesterday and glimpsed some FN M4A1s. I hadn't seen one yet so that was interesting. I'll have to take a closer look next time I am at the armsroom to get my M17, or just have the armorer show me a few. I don't get to play with M4s anymore, unless we deployed to a crappy place and I would do what I did in AFG and carry an M4 and an M9.
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FN M4/M4A1s use either a 7 digit SN or "Y" prefix with 6 digit SN in my experience.
Link Posted: 7/24/2023 9:53:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RichieRich562:
What's an acceptable rds to mount on an elcan?  Cant find any reference pics of an rmr.  Nor can i find any info in the xoptek that comes with the current ones.  And I can't find any (or not sure if I'd want one due to lack of service on them know) doctors or insights.
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Docter, insight MRDS or T1/T2
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 1:50:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: Yumago] [#46]
Update on the light, I was able to source a part from Wet Worx Outfitters and now my light is whole again.

Now I just need to get around to getting an LED bulb for it so it is usable in 2023.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 7:18:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: HipSh0T] [#47]
Check out this video by Jeff G... I had no idea you could upgrade a Block II, etc. with the FERFRANS system, always thought it was a proprietary upper.

FERFRANS rifles, making full auto effective.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 10:16:22 PM EST
[#48]
Hey all, have a new Colt SOCOM (the US Prop marked ones).

I was going to just sell the upper and keep the lower but after shooting it (its my first FSP build) I really enjoy how different it is.

The 14.5 P/W job was typical Colt attention to appearances (it looks horrible, huge grind mark) and I have Surefire cans that would be Block II appropriate.

After reading dozens of posts, I've seen some people put 4 prongs on their 14.5 FSP SOCOM barrels and call it either "phased replacement" or cite some atypical unit (like PJs).

If I were to have the P/W redone with a 4 prong, are there particular optics / stocks / flashlights that are "correct" for a PR or 1.5? It sounded like people were just slapping Block II "accessories" on their FSP builds and calling it good but wasn't sure if that was actually historical.

Many thanks.

Link Posted: 7/26/2023 11:04:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Deimo5:
Hey all, have a new Colt SOCOM (the US Prop marked ones).

I was going to just sell the upper and keep the lower but after shooting it (its my first FSP build) I really enjoy how different it is.

The 14.5 P/W job was typical Colt attention to appearances (it looks horrible, huge grind mark) and I have Surefire cans that would be Block II appropriate.

After reading dozens of posts, I've seen some people put 4 prongs on their 14.5 FSP SOCOM barrels and call it either "phased replacement" or cite some atypical unit (like PJs).

If I were to have the P/W redone with a 4 prong, are there particular optics / stocks / flashlights that are "correct" for a PR or 1.5? It sounded like people were just slapping Block II "accessories" on their FSP builds and calling it good but wasn't sure if that was actually historical.

Many thanks.

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I was told that some army units used the 4 prong with either an EoTech or elcan.
Link Posted: 7/27/2023 12:13:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Deimo5:
Hey all, have a new Colt SOCOM (the US Prop marked ones).

I was going to just sell the upper and keep the lower but after shooting it (its my first FSP build) I really enjoy how different it is.

The 14.5 P/W job was typical Colt attention to appearances (it looks horrible, huge grind mark) and I have Surefire cans that would be Block II appropriate.

After reading dozens of posts, I've seen some people put 4 prongs on their 14.5 FSP SOCOM barrels and call it either "phased replacement" or cite some atypical unit (like PJs).

If I were to have the P/W redone with a 4 prong, are there particular optics / stocks / flashlights that are "correct" for a PR or 1.5? It sounded like people were just slapping Block II "accessories" on their FSP builds and calling it good but wasn't sure if that was actually historical.

Many thanks.

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I would put a closed tines flash hider or a 212a on it or even a sfa2. Airforce  sof uses the 212a and the close tinrd flash hider is an updated version of that. The new sfa2 is an a2 flash hider with the ability to mount a sf can.
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