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Posted: 2/4/2023 6:26:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: Vehemence]
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Posted: 2/7/2023 8:24:53 PM EST
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LA, USA
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Posted: 2/8/2023 6:52:14 AM EST
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What was the correct USMC issue sling for the A4? I think I saw Blue Force Gear mentioned in a post some pages back, but can’t find it again. If this is correct can any one tell me the name of this sling and any attachments/adaptors, or provide any NSN for them. Thanks in advance.
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Posted: 2/9/2023 2:10:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eyesky31: What was the correct USMC issue sling for the A4? I think I saw Blue Force Gear mentioned in a post some pages back, but can’t find it again. If this is correct can any one tell me the name of this sling and any attachments/adaptors, or provide any NSN for them. Thanks in advance. In 03-07, we were issued the green web sling. People purchased CQB Solutions/Specter gear 3 point slings and that was the preferable choice. Sometimes if we couldn't get that, we used the Mamba sling, which sucked on the heavier A4, and was marginal on the lighter A2. Venture surplus is selling some, but it looks likey they don't include the front and rear straps that go on the rifle. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 8:05:25 PM EST
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Depending on the unit 2 pts were still being issued back in 07. Hell some were still fielding A2s. When I got deployed in 07, we were issued brand new A4s. Several of us bought 3 PT slings of varying brands. I ended up with a Blackhawk 3pt which served me well.
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Posted: 2/9/2023 9:28:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmc_noma: Depending on the unit 2 pts were still being issued back in 07. Hell some were still fielding A2s. When I got deployed in 07, we were issued brand new A4s. Several of us bought 3 PT slings of varying brands. I ended up with a Blackhawk 3pt which served me well. I had an A2 with a 3 point sling in 07.  Attached File |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2023 5:51:55 AM EST
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Thanks for the input.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2023 2:49:15 PM EST
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I've been searching through this thread and know that the TA31 and Aimpoint PRO are clone correct.
Can someone tell me if there are other aimpoint models that are clone correct? I want a red dot but don't like the PRO due to the obscure battery that it takes. Is the COMP M4 or M5 clone correct? |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 2:54:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nintendo64: I've been searching through this thread and know that the TA31 and Aimpoint PRO are clone correct. Can someone tell me if there are other aimpoint models that are clone correct? I want a red dot but don't like the PRO due to the obscure battery that it takes. Is the COMP M4 or M5 clone correct? PRO was never an issued optic. |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 3:53:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: Vehemence]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nintendo64: I've been searching through this thread and know that the TA31 and Aimpoint PRO are clone correct. Can someone tell me if there are other aimpoint models that are clone correct? I want a red dot but don't like the PRO due to the obscure battery that it takes. Is the COMP M4 or M5 clone correct? I’m guessing you’re thinking of the CompM2 as opposed to the PRO. Lots of cloners get the PRO and change out a couple of caps to make it look like a CompM2. While I prefer the original, almost-antique CompM2, some guys like to go the PRO route, as the newer optic has better battery life, dot, & surely other upgrades/improvements too. But, you already said you don’t like that optic. While you’re mainly going to see the usual suspects, the ACOG and the CompM2, you could also use a carry handle, an EOTech, the CompM4 you asked about, and I’m sure there are others I am unaware of as well. I’ve also seen all kinds of variable magnification glass on A4s, most of which was probably privately purchased. Here are a few pics I found from a very limited search: A4s w/carry handles:   A4s w/EOTechs:  512 above? hard to tell, but looks like it  A4s w/CompM4s:  and don’t forget your toothpick!  |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 4:15:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: I’m guessing you’re thinking of the CompM2 as opposed to the PRO. Lots of cloners get the PRO and change out a couple of caps to make it look like a CompM2. While I prefer the original, almost-antique CompM2, some guys like to go the PRO route, as the newer optic has better battery life, dot, & surely other upgrades/improvements too. But, you already said you don’t like that optic. While you’re mainly going to see the usual suspects, the ACOG and the CompM2, you could also use a carry handle, an EOTech, the CompM4 you asked about, and I’m sure there are others I am unaware of as well. I’ve also seen all kinds of variable magnification glass on A4s, most of which was probably privately purchased. Here are a few pics I found from a very limited search: A4s w/EOTechs: https://i.imgur.com/l43gEZt.jpg 512 above? hard to tell, but looks like it https://i.imgur.com/vgPjIp2.jpg 552 most likely. |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 4:26:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: Vehemence]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: 552 most likely. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By Vehemence: I’m guessing you’re thinking of the CompM2 as opposed to the PRO. Lots of cloners get the PRO and change out a couple of caps to make it look like a CompM2. While I prefer the original, almost-antique CompM2, some guys like to go the PRO route, as the newer optic has better battery life, dot, & surely other upgrades/improvements too. But, you already said you don’t like that optic. While you’re mainly going to see the usual suspects, the ACOG and the CompM2, you could also use a carry handle, an EOTech, the CompM4 you asked about, and I’m sure there are others I am unaware of as well. I’ve also seen all kinds of variable magnification glass on A4s, most of which was probably privately purchased. Here are a few pics I found from a very limited search: A4s w/EOTechs: https://i.imgur.com/l43gEZt.jpg 512 above? hard to tell, but looks like it https://i.imgur.com/vgPjIp2.jpg 552 most likely. Yeah, that’s very possible - especially if they were outfitted w/nods. Then again, I have seen service photos of different units in different branches using actual 512s. I’m guessing the guys using the 512s probably didn’t have NV. I emphasize the ‘guessing’ part of my statement. I’m just a civvie that loves all things AR. ETA: Pic Thread (reminiscing - she was still a virgin - brings a tear to my eye) 
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Posted: 2/14/2023 4:43:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: I’m just a civvie that loves all things AR. Same man. 
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:34:35 PM EST
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Would the LaRue LT799 be the correct aftermarket QD mount for the ACOG?
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USA
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Posted: 2/16/2023 6:08:24 PM EST
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Anyone have a source on reasonably priced m5 RAS? Looking to stay around $250.
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Posted: 2/16/2023 8:27:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elementfreak431: Anyone have a source on reasonably priced m5 RAS? Looking to stay around $250. I only see a few on gunbroker for $300 |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:23:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elementfreak431: Anyone have a source on reasonably priced m5 RAS? Looking to stay around $250. EE had one go for $220 and a new one with all the rails and grip for $350. |
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Posted: 2/23/2023 5:57:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRealSundance: EE had one go for $220 and a new one with all the rails and grip for $350. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRealSundance: Originally Posted By elementfreak431: Anyone have a source on reasonably priced m5 RAS? Looking to stay around $250. EE had one go for $220 and a new one with all the rails and grip for $350. Thoroughbred Armament now. They won't last. |
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Posted: 2/24/2023 7:05:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Thoroughbred Armament now. They won't last. KAC M5’s show to be out of stock, but just ordered a new P&S M5 with covers/grip for $225.00 shipped. I think that deal will be hard to beat. Thanks for the heads up. |
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Posted: 2/24/2023 11:06:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Thoroughbred Armament now. They won't last. Thanks - Picked up a P&S rail with guards and foregrip for $225. Great deal! |
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Posted: 2/24/2023 11:10:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By eyesky31: KAC M5’s show to be out of stock, but just ordered a new P&S M5 with covers/grip for $225.00 shipped. I think that deal will be hard to beat. Thanks for the heads up. Originally Posted By elementfreak431: Thanks - Picked up a P&S rail with guards and foregrip for $225. Great deal!
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Posted: 2/28/2023 11:11:30 PM EST
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Free to good home, just pay shipping. First person to EMAIL ME gets it.
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Posted: 2/28/2023 11:15:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Free to good home, just pay shipping. First person to EMAIL ME gets it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335460/483C472B-E257-440B-A1E8-2CFE4FD2C759-2729439.jpg Email sent |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 11:35:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elementfreak431: Email sent Yours |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 7:05:24 PM EST
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/7/2023 11:47:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: FlamingDragon]
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I went back to A2 handguards, I actually like the A2 handguards a bit more than the M5 ras. The rail covers are just dumb weight and the vfg is pretty useless, especially in prone position.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/8/2023 10:07:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlamingDragon: I went back to A2 handguards, I actually like the A2 handguards a bit more than the M5 ras. The rail covers are just dumb weight and the vfg is pretty useless, especially in prone position. Couldn't agree more... The long rail on the A4 never made sense to me unless it's for a clone that you intend to hang on the wall as "art". It just makes it too heavy overall and even worse it makes it front heavy. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 1:23:05 AM EST
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I don't mind the RAS. **Brownells just had some in stock, don't know if they're sold out**.
We had Specter gear slings iirc in 2009. Switched over the BFG 2 point in 2011. I bought a specter sling just for the mounts. Instead of a 3 point I use an MS1. My BCM 20" was more so a loosely based A4gery. I have a surplus FN A4 upper that I want built into an A4. I'm not going with the RCO though. TA11 because at the price that acogs go for I'm just going to get something with better eye relief. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 5:12:55 PM EST
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Posted: 3/9/2023 5:24:54 PM EST
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Were A4s issued in the GWOT sometimes still outfitted with plastic A2 handguards or were all A4s issued with the M5 RAS, as seen in most pics from the sandbox?
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Posted: 3/9/2023 5:38:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: Were A4s issued in the GWOT sometimes still outfitted with plastic A2 handguards or were all A4s issued with the M5 RAS, as seen in most pics from the sandbox? I can't say definitively but in 04 all our new A4s came with rails. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 5:45:35 PM EST
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Some documentation referred to the M16A4 as having the plastic handguard and detachable carry handle while the M16A4 MWS had the rail.
But as far as I can tell, it was mainly ordered with the rail installed. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 1:24:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: Tengo1]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: Were A4s issued in the GWOT sometimes still outfitted with plastic A2 handguards or were all A4s issued with the M5 RAS, as seen in most pics from the sandbox? Plenty of Guard and Reserve units in early 03-04 showed up with plastic handguards. Unsure on active. *NEVERMIND. I’m picturing A2’s in my head. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 2:36:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usmc_noma: Depending on the unit 2 pts were still being issued back in 07. Hell some were still fielding A2s. When I got deployed in 07, we were issued brand new A4s. Several of us bought 3 PT slings of varying brands. I ended up with a Blackhawk 3pt which served me well. I had an a2 until 2011. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 7:32:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: Were A4s issued in the GWOT sometimes still outfitted with plastic A2 handguards or were all A4s issued with the M5 RAS, as seen in most pics from the sandbox? Seen many A2 and A4 with round handguards. However, very few A4s in Army hands. Seem most went from the A2 to M4s. CD |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:02:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Seen many A2 and A4 with round handguards. However, very few A4s in Army hands. Seem most went from the A2 to M4s. CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By Vehemence: Were A4s issued in the GWOT sometimes still outfitted with plastic A2 handguards or were all A4s issued with the M5 RAS, as seen in most pics from the sandbox? Seen many A2 and A4 with round handguards. However, very few A4s in Army hands. Seem most went from the A2 to M4s. CD Thanks CD, Postal0311 & 03RN. I’m considering buying some plastic handguards for my A4 clone to switch things up for a while. Wasn’t sure if that would be clone kosher or just plain wrong. After seeing you guys’ responses, I’m assuming while it wasn’t seen often with A2 handguards, it would still be correct. If I understood that correctly, any suggestions where I could find authentic Colt A2 hand guards? |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:04:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: Thanks CD, Postal0311 & 03RN. I’m considering buying some plastic handguards for my A4 clone to switch things up for a while. Wasn’t sure if that would be clone kosher or just plain wrong. After seeing you guys’ responses, I’m assuming while it wasn’t seen often with A2 handguards, it would still be correct. If I understood that correctly, any suggestions where I could find authentic Colt A2 hand guards? https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Good-deal-A2-handguards/127-777330/ Good info here. ^^^ |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:06:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: Thanks CD, Postal0311 & 03RN. I’m considering buying some plastic handguards for my A4 clone to switch things up for a while. Wasn’t sure if that would be clone kosher or just plain wrong. After seeing you guys’ responses, I’m assuming while it wasn’t seen often with A2 handguards, it would still be correct. If I understood that correctly, any suggestions where I could find authentic Colt A2 hand guards? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By Vehemence: Were A4s issued in the GWOT sometimes still outfitted with plastic A2 handguards or were all A4s issued with the M5 RAS, as seen in most pics from the sandbox? Seen many A2 and A4 with round handguards. However, very few A4s in Army hands. Seem most went from the A2 to M4s. CD Thanks CD, Postal0311 & 03RN. I’m considering buying some plastic handguards for my A4 clone to switch things up for a while. Wasn’t sure if that would be clone kosher or just plain wrong. After seeing you guys’ responses, I’m assuming while it wasn’t seen often with A2 handguards, it would still be correct. If I understood that correctly, any suggestions where I could find authentic Colt A2 hand guards? Colt from Brownells or Windham Weaponry. They both use/sell the exact same authentic real mil-spec A2 handguards. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:08:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Good-deal-A2-handguards/127-777330/ Good info here. ^^^ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By Vehemence: Thanks CD, Postal0311 & 03RN. I’m considering buying some plastic handguards for my A4 clone to switch things up for a while. Wasn’t sure if that would be clone kosher or just plain wrong. After seeing you guys’ responses, I’m assuming while it wasn’t seen often with A2 handguards, it would still be correct. If I understood that correctly, any suggestions where I could find authentic Colt A2 hand guards? https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Good-deal-A2-handguards/127-777330/ Good info here. ^^^ You're always more on top of things than I am around here... Even if you only beat me by a couple of minutes. 
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:35:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Postal0311: Some documentation referred to the M16A4 as having the plastic handguard and detachable carry handle while the M16A4 MWS had the rail. But as far as I can tell, it was mainly ordered with the rail installed. My buddy confirmed his A4 had A2 plastic handguards and carry handle. Army, Iraq '09 |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:19:03 PM EST
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A4 lowers on sale at palmetto
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-m16a4-stripped-lower-receiver.html |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 7:36:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vehemence: Were A4s issued in the GWOT sometimes still outfitted with plastic A2 handguards or were all A4s issued with the M5 RAS, as seen in most pics from the sandbox? Yeah we took some overseas when I deployed in that configuration. |
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Posted: 3/11/2023 3:39:56 PM EST
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Thanks again to all who replied. I appreciate the info.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/14/2023 7:02:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shlouf: A4 lowers on sale at palmetto https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-m16a4-stripped-lower-receiver.html Thanks for this.. I picked one up before they are 2000 dollars each due to Communism |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 12:36:36 AM EST
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Working on my clone now, but according to the original post M4 feed ramps are still in spec?
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:51:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Working on my clone now, but according to the original post M4 feed ramps are still in spec? Actual M16A4s had rifle feedramps. |
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Posted: 3/25/2023 4:48:05 PM EST
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Is anybody running a specter gear buttstock pouch with a USGI silent sling attached to it?
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Posted: 3/27/2023 9:21:31 AM EST
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Colt AR15A4. Fairly basic for right now except for the Geissele SSA-E, Colt CS stock and PRI Latch...
 
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:57:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: Molon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: Colt AR15A4. Fairly basic for right now except for the Geissele SSA-E, Colt CS stock and PRI Latch... https://i.imgur.com/crJBWsw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0l1vL88.jpg Nice! ... |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 2:44:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: CATM]
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Sorry the pic sucks. My phone has a crack across the lense and it doesn't focus worth a damn. My Colt A4.
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