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Posted: 8/19/2004 12:26:14 PM EST
I have been a hardcore Aimpoint guy for about 2 years now. I have played with my partners Eothings and always bashed on them. The main reason is the circle dot reticle and I always felt it was fuzzy. Truth be told though I actually liked the design better of the Eothing and felt I had a greater FOV with it. My question is someone told me that they make an Eothing with just a dot like the Aimpoint. If this is true I may try one since I also hear they are coming out with a magnifier for it and the LaRue Tactical mount has provisions for it. Sorry if this is old news, as I said I never kept up with the Eothings. I also saw Wes is trying one again.....
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:58:30 PM EST
There is a "dot only" EOTech (I forgot the model designation), but it's a 1 MOA dot, much smaller than the Aimpoint's dot.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 3:08:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 3:37:01 PM EST
And then there was one (Lumpy)...
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:39:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/19/2004 4:39:56 PM EST by Unknown1Sailor]
Or, you could do like I did, and get both.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 4:59:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By Maverick656:
I have been a hardcore Aimpoint guy for about 2 years now. I have played with my partners Eothings and always bashed on them. The main reason is the circle dot reticle and I always felt it was fuzzy. Truth be told though I actually liked the design better of the Eothing and felt I had a greater FOV with it. My question is someone told me that they make an Eothing with just a dot like the Aimpoint. If this is true I may try one since I also hear they are coming out with a magnifier for it and the LaRue Tactical mount has provisions for it. Sorry if this is old news, as I said I never kept up with the Eothings. I also saw Wes is trying one again.....



And you call yourself a "LaRue Guy".....

(walks away shaking his head, mumbling in disgust....)
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 5:00:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bradd_D:
And then there was one (Lumpy)...



Make that "two", mister!!!!
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 6:54:59 PM EST
Hey I said I was gonna get a LaRue mount. I didn't know it was only a 1 moa dot. That won't work. Oh well I guess there is still 3 Aimpoint guys.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 7:23:03 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/19/2004 7:26:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 3:29:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2004 3:30:32 AM EST by USMC03]

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:


Oh wait, I got Monty and Pat Rogers on my side





AHHHHMMMMM!!!!!!!!! There's more straight guys out there than just you three
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 3:33:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By Bradd_D:
And then there was one (Lumpy)...



I'll stand alone and defiant as the champion of the Aimpoint

www.pearl-jam.com/misc/bhstand.jpg


Oh wait, I got Monty and Pat Rogers on my side



Not for long
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 9:44:08 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 10:27:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By USMC03:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:


Oh wait, I got Monty and Pat Rogers on my side





AHHHHMMMMM!!!!!!!!! There's more straight guys out there than just you three




Link Posted: 8/20/2004 11:14:52 AM EST
I always thought we should petition EOTech to do two things:

1. Replace the dot only model with a larger dot than 1moa. When it is surrounded by the circle, it is a lot easier to use. Without the circle, it really needs to be beefed up to retain the advantage of faster speed using the EOTech. It would be a better model for those who seem distracted by the "circle of dots", even though these people probably just aren't using the optic correctly otherwise they wouldn't be distracted by the dots.

2. Replace the "N" battery models with ones that use CR123s for the ability to use lithium batteries that stand up better to heat than the alklaine only Ns. Another good thing about this would be commonality of battery supply with taclights so that you only have to carry one type of battery. I'm sure the lithium CR123s would also give a longer battery life than the alkaline Ns.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 8:32:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By knightone:
2. Replace the "N" battery models with ones that use CR123s



Link Posted: 8/20/2004 9:38:29 PM EST
I'm still an Aimpoint supporter. You guys will see the light and come back someday...
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 5:50:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By USMC03:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:


Oh wait, I got Monty and Pat Rogers on my side





AHHHHMMMMM!!!!!!!!! There's more straight guys out there than just you three



How the hell could I forget Jeff?

Sorry man.



Ahem...

Fellow Aimpoint user checking in.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:01:42 AM EST
Me too...

Except.. um... I have my Eothing on the way from SMG Lee just to make sure Aimpoint is the best
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 8:07:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By JC_:
Me too...

Except.. um... I have my Eothing on the way from SMG Lee just to make sure Aimpoint is the best



I had to buy one to try it too. It is now long gone....
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 9:02:39 AM EST
Not like I'm much help Lumpy, but I'm with you on the aimpoints.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 9:49:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 9:50:59 AM EST
If someone would let me have an EOTHINGY, I'd try it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 10:13:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By M4-guy:
There is a "dot only" EOTech (I forgot the model designation), but it's a 1 MOA dot, much smaller than the Aimpoint's dot.



I have heard complaints about the visibility of this dot in bright sunlight. I've never had a problem with the circle/dot reticle.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 10:37:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By fizassist:

Originally Posted By M4-guy:
There is a "dot only" EOTech (I forgot the model designation), but it's a 1 MOA dot, much smaller than the Aimpoint's dot.



I have heard complaints about the visibility of this dot in bright sunlight. I've never had a problem with the circle/dot reticle.



Seriously, the dot only EOTech is not something a majority of people will like. The 1 MOA dot is too small to use by itself. The EOTech works best with 65 MOA outer. If you want a dot only optic it's best to stick with Aimpoint.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 10:52:46 AM EST
I will take the Aimpoint anyday. I have a buddy that bought an EOTech and now he is selling it to get a proper sight, an Aimpoint.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 10:56:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2004 10:56:55 AM EST by gus]
Aimpoint for me too. Got yer 6 Lump!
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 11:20:24 AM EST
Hmm... Maybe we should to a poll.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:19:02 PM EST
Count me in as an Aimpoint user (M2 and MLXD) and keeping my eye on the EE for more.

IPSC
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 1:38:16 PM EST
AIMPOINT!


Remman
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 2:02:29 PM EST
TACP.....wait.....is that still a banning offense?
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 2:08:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By Bradd_D:
And then there was one (Lumpy)...



I'll stand alone and defiant as the champion of the Aimpoint

www.pearl-jam.com/misc/bhstand.jpg


Oh wait, I got Monty and Pat Rogers on my side



Right here with you buddy.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 2:08:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/21/2004 2:12:21 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 3:08:17 PM EST
Another Aimpoint guy checking in. Dig this:


Originally Posted By SMGLee:
........but I guess Luimpy thinks other wise. I even got Wes @ MSTN ot get a 552.



Oh really? Well, let's see if he "turns to the Dark (EOtech) side". Here is a qoute from Wes in an e-mail I got from him:

....GLAD YOU LIKE THE AIMPOINT. I FEEL THEY ARE GROSSLY UNDERAPPRECIATED, MYSELF. IT CAN'T BE BEAT FROM ARMS LENGTH TO 200 YARDS. FEW POSE THREATS BEYOND THAT......

Only time will tell
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:00:38 PM EST
Comp ML2 & LaRue M68 CCO: Get Some!!!
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:34:44 PM EST
Tried them both and bought the Aimpoint. The Eotech was a great sight, but the 10,000 hour battery life of the Comp ML2 and the uber quality of the Aimpoint made me a believer.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:42:37 PM EST
Yea thou I walk thru the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, as my Aimpoint comforts me, For thou art a Mushroom cloud layin Mother F%^$# ...... I'm with ya Lumpy!!!!
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:54:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 5:24:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 5:53:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By knightone:
I always thought we should petition EOTech to do two things:

<Snip 1>

2. Replace the "N" battery models with ones that use CR123s for the ability to use lithium batteries that stand up better to heat than the alklaine only Ns. Another good thing about this would be commonality of battery supply with taclights so that you only have to carry one type of battery. I'm sure the lithium CR123s would also give a longer battery life than the alkaline Ns.




I love this idea, BUT a stray thought occurs. Aren't the AA and N batteries 1.5 volts each?
So, how would it affect battery life in switching to the 3 volt 123-type batteries? Would this be too difficult a conversion on EoTech's part?

Maybe we could power our 123 powered EoTechs with only one battery, and have the second as a backup.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 7:22:49 PM EST
Good grief I started an Us vs. Them thread. I said I will stick with my aimpoint.
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 12:22:27 AM EST
Chevy vs. Ford!! Ho hum!!

Link Posted: 8/22/2004 2:55:33 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 3:07:13 AM EST
The only thing I like about EOThingies is the price.
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 8:35:26 AM EST
Hmm all these Aimpointusers chiming in to defend their precious CCO. Well, I guess dinosaurs still do roam the Earth.

Link Posted: 8/22/2004 8:55:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/22/2004 9:00:17 AM EST by triburst1]
I'm a more of a BSA guy myself.

What I would really like is an all metal sight with the EOtech type open body and the nice crisp 4MOA dot from the Aimpoint.

Link Posted: 8/22/2004 9:27:58 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/22/2004 10:24:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Somebody makes a dot sight thats better than the Aimpoint, I'll be the first one to plop down my cash.

Eotech hasnt



Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:57:01 PM EST
I us

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Link Posted: 8/23/2004 6:54:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By knightone:
Hmm all these Aimpointusers chiming in to defend their precious CCO. Well, I guess dinosaurs still do roam the Earth.




Somebody makes a dot sight thats better than the Aimpoint, I'll be the first one to plop down my cash.

Eotech hasnt

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 6:58:14 PM EST
Aimpoint for combat use, Eotech is for safe queens.

TG
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