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Posted: 10/26/2013 7:52:23 PM EST
Hey All,

I am looking for a Red Dot / Holographic and a flip to the side 3x Magnifier combo to put on a low cost AR I have built. I don't want to spend more than $200-400. The optics can be a paired set (from the same manufacturer) or mixed, as long as they don't need special risers to match heights. The AR is a flat top picatinny rail.

The recommendations can even be cheap ones with good optics and then a separate recommendation for a sturdy flip-up replacement as one of the biggest complaints I have read for low cost optics is how the mounts are not solid.

For example, if these are a good combo (UTG DS3840W & UTG New Gen 4inch 3x Magnifier w/ Flip-to-side Picatinny Mount), but the flip mount is loose, maybe a replacement recommendation for a strong flip mount that could be used on the optic as a replacement.

I just don't know a lot about low cost optics, but I want to keep the complete cost of this AR under $800 if I can and I have spent $510 so far.

Thanks guys!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 8:05:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/26/2013 8:05:56 PM EST by xsrfs]
My buddy just got one of these. I'm now considering it. it has excellent reviews. The HD Gen 3
hhttp://www.mylucidgear.com/reddotsights.php
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 9:39:13 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:12:09 AM EST
Primary Arms micro and magnifier

Nikon P223 with Primary Arms mount

Weaver 1-3x with Primary Arms mount (this set up is on my MP15-22)

Bushnell TRS-25 and PA magnifier

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 12:47:31 PM EST
Thanks all!

Anyone else have experience with optics from Sightmark or UTG or Ultimate Arms? They are very low end low cost optics, just don't know if they are even worth the money. I am only using the optics for target practice and some course running. So the intent was to keep the cost low, but get as much info as I could from others about the best bang for low cost optics.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 2:42:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By xsrfs:
My buddy just got one of these. I'm now considering it. it has excellent reviews. The HD Gen 3
hhttp://www.mylucidgear.com/reddotsights.php
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1. Is that cheap chinese junk?
2. are people really paying THOSE prices for cheap chinese junk? !
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 3:29:06 AM EST
just a thought but have you considered something like the 1x4 power leupold mark ar mod 1 scope with the fire dot reticle? it should be pretty close to your budget and you wont need any flip up anything.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 5:24:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jwb47:
just a thought but have you considered something like the 1x4 power leupold mark ar mod 1 scope with the fire dot reticle? it should be pretty close to your budget and you wont need any flip up anything.
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I had not! Let me look them up and see about them, thanks!
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 5:33:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/29/2013 5:36:45 AM EST by Synyster06Gates]
Check Primary Arms for their red dot and a magnifier from them.

Or their 1-6x variable scope is also in your price range and will fit the bill.

PA Micro dot WITH American Defense QD mount
PA 3x Magnifier with mount choices
PA 6x Magnifier with mount options
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 5:51:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jwb47:
just a thought but have you considered something like the 1x4 power leupold mark ar mod 1 scope with the fire dot reticle? it should be pretty close to your budget and you wont need any flip up anything.
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^ This. True scopes have vastly superior field of view and brightness compared to magnifiers behind a red dot optic. It's a matter if optic design.

For this very reason, Trijicon is rolling out its new 1-6x VCOG combat optic for the military. If you want to see the future of combat optics for CQB and on out to medium engagement range, it is VCOG or whatever emerges in a similar style from its competition. At $2,270 retail, it is beyond what most of us can afford.

The Leupold mentioned above is an affordable alternative.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 7:10:22 PM EST
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^ This. True scopes have vastly superior field of view and brightness compared to magnifiers behind a red dot optic. It's a matter if optic design.

For this very reason, Trijicon is rolling out its new 1-6x VCOG combat optic for the military. If you want to see the future of combat optics for CQB and on out to medium engagement range, it is VCOG or whatever emerges in a similar style from its competition. At $2,270 retail, it is beyond what most of us can afford.

The Leupold mentioned above is an affordable alternative.
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Originally Posted By jwb47:
just a thought but have you considered something like the 1x4 power leupold mark ar mod 1 scope with the fire dot reticle? it should be pretty close to your budget and you wont need any flip up anything.


^ This. True scopes have vastly superior field of view and brightness compared to magnifiers behind a red dot optic. It's a matter if optic design.

For this very reason, Trijicon is rolling out its new 1-6x VCOG combat optic for the military. If you want to see the future of combat optics for CQB and on out to medium engagement range, it is VCOG or whatever emerges in a similar style from its competition. At $2,270 retail, it is beyond what most of us can afford.

The Leupold mentioned above is an affordable alternative.


Wow, that VCOG is nice!

Yeah, I have one of these, but it took a long time to save up for it. I run it on my PTR91 most of the time.

Acog 3.5 X 35 Scope Dual Illuminated Crosshair .308 Ballistic Reticle

Link Posted: 10/29/2013 7:15:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 7:16:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By metuckness:
Hey All,

I am looking for a Red Dot / Holographic and a flip to the side 3x Magnifier combo to put on a low cost AR I have built. I don't want to spend more than $200-400. The optics can be a paired set (from the same manufacturer) or mixed, as long as they don't need special risers to match heights. The AR is a flat top picatinny rail.

The recommendations can even be cheap ones with good optics and then a separate recommendation for a sturdy flip-up replacement as one of the biggest complaints I have read for low cost optics is how the mounts are not solid.

For example, if these are a good combo (UTG DS3840W & UTG New Gen 4inch 3x Magnifier w/ Flip-to-side Picatinny Mount), but the flip mount is loose, maybe a replacement recommendation for a strong flip mount that could be used on the optic as a replacement.

I just don't know a lot about low cost optics, but I want to keep the complete cost of this AR under $800 if I can and I have spent $510 so far.

Thanks guys!
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Like someone else said man, scour the EE. Bide your time. I picked up a nice EOTech from the EE at a great price. You're better off putting some cash and patience toward it than jumping into something cheap now. Just my two cents.
Link Posted: 10/29/2013 8:26:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By gotigers:
Primary Arms micro and magnifier

Nikon P223 with Primary Arms mount

Weaver 1-3x with Primary Arms mount (this set up is on my MP15-22)

Bushnell TRS-25 and PA magnifier

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Yup, that's pretty much it in your price range.
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