First, thanks for the reply DevL
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Yes the full length KAC FF RAS is less expensive than midlength due to the rarity of the mid length FF RAS.
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Ok, that makes sense to me.
I was wondering how often you think you will need to shoot people beyond 100-150m with your rifle in a defensive scenario?
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Hopefully, never [:)] In all seriousness, I would want to use this out to 300 yds but for the most part, the ranges you mentioned (100-150m) are what it be mainly used for.
If you must go 16" forged front sight with 1/7 twist thats a Colt barrel only. Twice as expensive as a DPMS (which has not forged front sight). Also why the forged front sight if you want a midlength FF RAS? You cant keep the FSB with that tube.
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With an M-4 bbl, you're right. I can't have a fixed front sight with it but, with a hvy. bbl. I can. That being said, I'm going to just go with a carbine FF RAS.
I'm up in the air about the 14.5" vs. 16". I'll probably end up getting a 14.5" (plus Phantom) upper and a 20" upper.
My suggestion is you call MSTN and discuss your upper with them. Building your upper is cheaper but you have to be willing to shop around for the best parts and the best prices. Then you end up with exactly what you want. MSTN does almost all Colt but I believe they have done some Bushmaster uppers. However they are not a machine shop so they cant cut in the feed ramps for a Bushmaster for you so your back to Colt again.
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That's what I'm probably going to end up doing - calling MSTN. I really don't want to mess around. I don't mind paying a bit more to have someone else do it. This isn't going on a project gun. This will be my main AR so I would rather pay to have someone do it right who has experience at it.
My suggestion is what I selected, but of course I am biased (though I got the best prices)
Bushmaster 14.5" M4 1/7 twist 4150 barrel with forged front sight base.
Bushmaster flat top upper and had M4 feed ramps added to both for $30.
Bushmaster milspec chrome lined full auto bolt / carrier.
KAC carbine FF RAS
PRI charging handle
ARMS 40 rear
now I have a PRI front sight but you obviously dont need or want that and I dont think its needed (I just wanted it)
For the flash hider I put on the Gemtech Bilock which extends the barrel to the legal 16" and still allows me to mount the M4-96D suppressor even thogh I have a permanantly fixed flash hider in the future.
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Well I don't plan on having a suppressor any time in the future so I'm too worried about the flash hider being permanently attached.
I assembled all this for free myself. Its very easy to do with the correct tools. Go to the hometown forum and find someone who will help you. You will be amazed how little skill it takes to build an AR capable of MOA accuracy.
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From everything I've heard and read, I agree with you. Building your own upper doesn't seem that difficult but I'd still rather pay someone else to do it. I don't have a lot of free time and want it done right.
I would certainly get a 1/7 twist barrel for use with 75 and 77 grain ammo. This will be just as good at extending range as a 16" 1/9 barrel using M193. The 14.5" 1/7 twist barrel using 77 grian ammo would even have better terminal effectiveness and accuracy at ALL ranges compared to a 16" 1/9 barreled AR using M193.
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That's the one thing I'm kind of stuck on - the 1/7 twist. I hear mixed opinions on M193 in a 1/7 but for practice, it seems like it will be fine. I would definitely like to be able to start using the heavier 77gr stuff so I'm pretty much set on the 1/7.
As for the heavy M4 barrel.... you have a full auto lower you attaching this thing to? No? You not planning on using it as an improvised SAW? Then why waste money and weight on a heavy M4 barrel instead of a factory M4 barrel when the factory M4 barrel is capable of MOA accuracy with match ammo? Just my opinion.
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And I appreciate it...your opinion that is. That's what I was hoping to get. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post.