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Posted: 4/11/2007 6:53:44 PM EDT
A bit new to the higher end scope market and looking for advice!
I'm building 2 custom .300-221 AR's and would like a few opinions or suggestions for glass. Would like to have a scope in the 6-24x range with (preferably) a 50mm bell and target knobs.  I'm drooling over a Nightforce, but gotta keep it under a grand to make budget...hinking.gif
A couple scopes I'm considering now are the Leupold VXIII 6.5-20x50 and the Burris 6-24x50 XTR.

does anyone know of the reliability/repeatability of these scopes (or others) as far as adjusting the elevation/windage? does the fact that they have target knobs mean the 'click' mechanism is beefier or do I even need to worry about it? reason I ask is because the rifles, or at least one of them (mine ) will end up getting Form 1'd and will shoot subsonic with a can one day and supersonic the next according to range so i don't particularly want to set and forget and just hold over for the subsonic...I like hair on hair as much as possible!
Link Posted: 4/11/2007 7:51:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/11/2007 8:17:52 PM EDT
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May not be exactly what you are looking for, but check out the Leupold Mk.4 CQC.  The specs make it seem pretty versatile, though I've never used one.
Link Posted: 4/11/2007 10:11:22 PM EDT
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Thanks for going to the trouble of illustrating your point, Mike! perty scopes on perty rifles...and more drooling over the Nightforce hat
Link Posted: 4/12/2007 5:59:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/12/2007 6:45:40 PM EDT
[#5]
...you have access to too many toys, lol
Link Posted: 4/12/2007 7:28:03 PM EDT
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I have a Leupold Vari-X III 6.5-20x40 scope and today it lives on my 15 year old daughter's 10/22, it kicks butt there. She loves it. It used to be on my Remington M700 VSSF .308.

I now have a Zeiss 6.5-20x50 on my Bushy Varminter and there is NO COMPARISION.
In broad daylight the difference is clear, in low light the difference is just silly, just silly.
The Leupold is a 40mm objective and the Zeiss a 50mm, so for comparision in low light, I put the Zeiss at 20x and the Leupold at 10x to more than make up the difference. Still the Zeiss blew it away. Not even close.

BTW, I have a Nikon 2.5-10x44 Tatical (now known as the Monarch-X) on my Remington M700 VSSF in .308 and it is fantastic. It is built like a friggin tank. I could build a house with it!

Good Luck
Bill

ETA: Take a very close look at the new Nikon Monarch 6-24x44 1" scopes with side parallex, they look great. I have a number of the Nikon Monarch's and I think there are the best value out there. If you are looking for the VERY BEST value, then go for the now phased out Nikon Monarch 6.5-20x44, SWFA and others are selling these at close out prices. Incredible deals on incredible glass.
Link Posted: 4/12/2007 9:18:34 PM EDT
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IOR Valdada. Google to find them. They're great. Very resilient, clicks are crisp and consistent, much clearer image than leupold. I have a Nightforce and Valdada on my higher end rifles, and they're both great. The valdada i would say is equal to the NF, but about half the price. I don't think you can go wrong with them
Link Posted: 4/12/2007 9:22:18 PM EDT
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I just bought a DPMS LR 308 and am looking for some big glass.  $800 is the max I'll go on a scope.  I'm looking for at least a 6-20x 50mm mil-dot.

That Bushnell ELITE 4200 6X-24X50mm SF MILDOT above looks pretty impressive.

I was also looking at the 6X-24X-50mm Xtreme Tactical Burris.  It looks like a good scope as well, but it seems a lot of people don't like Burris.

I would've never thought about buying a high-end Bushnell over a high-end Burris, but I guess I don't know the latest about optics.

I wish I was rich and could afford a Nightforce-those look friggin' awesome.  Way outa my range-$1,600 compared to other's $700 scopes.  I'm sure it's worth every penny though.

More suggestions!  Please!
Link Posted: 4/13/2007 7:34:29 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I just bought a DPMS LR 308 and am looking for some big glass.  $800 is the max I'll go on a scope.  I'm looking for at least a 6-20x 50mm mil-dot.

That Bushnell ELITE 4200 6X-24X50mm SF MILDOT above looks pretty impressive.

I was also looking at the 6X-24X-50mm Xtreme Tactical Burris.  It looks like a good scope as well, but it seems a lot of people don't like Burris.

I would've never thought about buying a high-end Bushnell over a high-end Burris, but I guess I don't know the latest about optics.

I wish I was rich and could afford a Nightforce-those look friggin' awesome.  Way outa my range-$1,600 compared to other's $700 scopes.  I'm sure it's worth every penny though.

More suggestions!  Please!


I'd give the Burris XTR series a shot (Poor pun usage) I have a Fullfield II & its solid...
Link Posted: 4/13/2007 9:04:21 AM EDT
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Not sure what you are wanting to spend but you might want to look at the USO scopes.

I have to agree that IOR is really hard to beat in the bang for your buck realm.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 9:18:22 AM EDT
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Bump, I am in a similar situation with a DPMS flat top target upper and a .223 24" long bull barrel for long range varmit and plinking. I definitely want mil dot sight and would perfer a 30 mm tube, but won't rule out a 1" tube if the scope offers outstanding glass and features. My budget would be about $500.00 max. I dealer I know can get me a Pentax Lightseeker 30 in the similar zoom ranges noted above for about $600.00, but I don't know if that is worth the money to me.
Further suggestions and experiences would be appreciated.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 11:24:02 AM EDT
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I have a Burris Signature 8-32X50 that is on a rifle that I'm not using. If that is something that would work for you let me know. I hadn't thought of selling it, but it isn't doing anything and I can always find use for some cash. It is in like new condition. Just email me if you are interested.
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